Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP

rosiem · 01-03-2020 02:48PM

lalababa wrote: »

There was a nasty flu/virus/chest infection thingy over the Christmas and January. It was in Australia some months before and there were warnings that it would go around the world. Do ye remember that the hospital s were restricting visitors and some were fully restricted.
Symptoms were a dry cough and bad sweats./ Cold to hot to cold.
It was reported in mid/late January that 20 had died from it in Ireland.
Does anyone remember this , it was only last month.....

Yes I think a lot of people were struck down by this and there were threads on boards even but what has this to do with Covid-19

Kaisr Sose · 01-03-2020 02:49PM

embraer170 wrote: »

The Louvre in Paris has been closed for an emergency meeting with staff.

Was that not just a late opening due to the staff meeting?

rafatoni · 01-03-2020 02:49PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

If you're west of the shannon, youre safe...

Yes, safe from SAM too ;-)

tillyfilly · 01-03-2020 02:50PM

I’m just checking in, is everybody still alive ?

mirrorwall14 · 01-03-2020 02:51PM

I’m a teacher. At one point before Christmas the vomiting bug ran through the building like wildfire. I had between 11-15 students out of 30 in my tutor group absent every day for a week. As one came back another or more were struck down. I also got it. As did many staff. And that’s with meticulous hand washing. I think at one point we had over 200 kids sick with it. Schools are absolute hot beds of infection.

embraer170 · 01-03-2020 02:51PM

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

Was that not just a late opening due to the staff meeting?

French news sources are reporting it is still closed. It is now 14:51 French time (normal Sunday opening hours are 09:00 to 18:00).

khalessi · 01-03-2020 02:52PM

Anyone looking at me shopping this morning would have thought stocking up. I was doing monthly shop and buying cleaning products to spring clean house. Seemed eerily quiet to the extent another shopper remarked on it in the queue. Only thing gone off shelves was pasta and anti bacterial handwashing and no one panicking

Drumpot · 01-03-2020 02:52PM

Tip

If you have to use public toilets, open doors, touch stairs etc while out either wear gloves (that will need to be washed) or a tissue/hanky to touch things.

CinemaGuy45 · 01-03-2020 02:53PM

gabeeg wrote: »

Very scary thread on Iran

https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1233668766124400640?s=19

igCorcaigh · 01-03-2020 02:54PM

Xertz wrote: »

The reality is all you can do is take sane precautions. It’s a virus and we cannot reasonably retreat to hermetically sealed bubbles.

I agree with your your post, thank you again for the valuable input.

At the same time I want to reinforce the concept of "flatten the curve".

The measures that we must take apply at a population level too, not just for the sake of any one individual.

Doctors room ghost · 01-03-2020 02:54PM

tillyfilly wrote: »

I’m just checking in, is everybody still alive ?

All good.someone mentioned only 190 times they were frontline,battle hardened staff,so we the dumb,helpless public are at ease.
Now does anyone know how will I tie my shoelaces. I have to go outside.

is_that_so · 01-03-2020 02:54PM

Drumpot wrote: »

For anybody looking for a really good summary of things this video is great. Also for anybody who is thinking it’s not going to be that serious and why bother preparing, hopefully this video will help educate you a bit.

The speaker is a pulminary healthcare physician who has been doing videos on this for weeks, they are very good.

- general information
- hygiene
- information on potential effects of epidemic - why it’s important to prepare
- info on potential vaccine - quite technical explanation until minute 12 of link
- how long does virus last on surfaces
- what is intubation (he explains from when he did a video on a patients autopsy after dieing from corona)
- Does smoking put you at increased risk ?
- can you get reinfected?
- can we use antibodies from people who survived virus?
- be prepared we you can be

Again, this is just one source of information that I have been watching.

Serious question - why would one sit through a 17m video over referring to our local health authorities? There are also plenty of "explainers" out there you can get through in a few minutes.

Professor Moriarty · 01-03-2020 02:55PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

All good.someone mentioned only 190 times they were frontline,battle hardened staff,so we the dumb,helpless public are at ease.
Now does anyone know how will I tie my shoelaces. I have to go outside.

Apt username.

Xertz · 01-03-2020 02:57PM

Bear in mind too that certain lines of antibacterial hand washes being in short supply doesn’t take much panic buying.

If you’ve something like a relatively unpopular store brand of hand soap that costs say 99 cents and normally only sells a few items a day in a particular supermarket and someone says: you should buy hand soap.

If a few more shoppers buy it than usually do, the shelves will clear as there was never any significant stock in the first place.

A lot of people probably don’t buy those products as much as you’d think.

Evidence of panic buying would be where you’d staple items that are in heavy supply going low.

Supermarkets both here and in the UK are also world leaders in just in time supply systems. They often don’t have significant stock rooms on site and what you see on the shelves is more or less what they have on stock. As much floor space as possible is used for retail.

That’s actually a bit different in the US. Often European retailers are far more advanced at supply chain management, due to a whole load of factors, but mostly because they need to minimise waste of floor space by stockrooms due to difference in the type of buildings you’ll typically have in Europe - we squeeze things in a lot more than they do in typically sprawling parts of the US Midwest and so on.

odyssey06 · 01-03-2020 02:58PM

Remember the measures other countries have taken such as closing schools and limiting the number of people gathering in one place are not about total containment.

No one is saying those steps will mean zero cases, it's about ensuring that we don't get huge numbers infected at once, and then a flood of serious cases overwhelming medical capacity.

In light of that, the St Patricks Day parade should be cancelled.

embraer170 · 01-03-2020 02:59PM

A significant jump in Norway, with a total of 17 people infected. Five of these are doctors/nurses at the Ophthalmology Ward of one of the main hospitals in Oslo. 250 staff and patients are now in quarantine.

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/O ... al-sykehus

Drumpot · 01-03-2020 02:59PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Serious question - why would one sit through a 17m video over referring to our local health authorities? There are also plenty of "explainers" out there you can get through in a few minutes.

I put a list of things he answers, if you can find a video or information from our local health care authorities explaining these answers by all means share them.

I’ve said this for weeks, that a massive issue I have with our authority’s is communication. I also said if they communicate and lead the narrative on this crisis, then people have a place to go to get their questions answered. Most people don’t care for the information I find interesting and helpful but sir people do.

Asides from that This is a global outbreak , not just an Irish issue so I don’t think listening to only information from your country is really that important once you believe the source of the information you are using is credible.

igCorcaigh · 01-03-2020 03:00PM

Xertz wrote: »

Bear in mind too that certain lines of antibacterial hand washes being in short supply doesn’t take much panic buying.

If you’ve something like a relatively unpopular store brand of hand soap that costs say 99 cents and normally only sells a few items a day in a particular supermarket and someone says: you should buy hand soap.

If a few more shoppers buy it than usually do, the shelves will clear as there was never any significant stock in the first place.

A lot of people probably don’t buy those products as much as you’d think.

Evidence of panic buying would be where you’d staple items that are in heavy supply going low.

Supermarkets both here and in the UK are also world leaders in just in time supply systems. They often don’t have stock rooms on site and what you see on the shelves is more or less what they have on stock.

Yes, and this situation shows how vulnerable our just in time global supply chains are. I hope our essential items like medications are not so tight.

wakka12 · 01-03-2020 03:01PM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/01/coronavirus-latest-updates-coronavirus-live-updates-latest-news-china-wuhan-stock-markets-update-china-iran-us-australia-south-korea-japan?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Gmail
12 more cases in the UK, 35 in total now

VayNiice · 01-03-2020 03:02PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

But have you seen anyone here panicking?

All my local shops are fully stocked with pasta and tinned food. Most people I've talked to about it are dismissing it as nothing and joking about it.

Outside of this thread, life is normal. Just like it is in Vietnam.

I haven't been in Ireland in years so no. What I'm saying is that threads like this can do more harm than good by making out as if there is a need for panic and encouraging people to go into Aldi and clear the shelves for themselves. Maybe there are too many people from the tinfoil hat brigade on the thread giving this impression.

I'm glad to see lots of people disagreeing with me and clarifying that there isn't a panic in Ireland at the moment.

CinemaGuy45 · 01-03-2020 03:02PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

"What exactly have people got agaisnt putting some provisions aside?"

Budget? Does it occur to people that a lot of folk barely have enough money to cover their weekly shop...

Bags of rice in Aldi 99c I have seen people on the dole smoke how much is a pack of 20? €12 thats six bags of rice a couple of muti-pack beans and a few cans of tuna.

megabomberman · 01-03-2020 03:02PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Remember the measures other countries have taken such as closing schools and limiting the number of people gathering in one place are not about total containment.

No one is saying those steps will mean zero cases, it's about ensuring that we don't get huge numbers infected at once, and then a flood of serious cases overwhelming medical capacity.

In light of that, the St Patricks Day parade should be cancelled.

I shudder at the thought of super spreading events like the typical Irish funeral, potentially thousands filing into a confined funeral home to shake 20+ hands. Why do we have to wait for 1,000+ cases to declare that alternative gestures are absolutely required.

igCorcaigh · 01-03-2020 03:02PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Remember the measures other countries have taken such as closing schools and limiting the number of people gathering in one place are not about total containment.

No one is saying those steps will mean zero cases, it's about ensuring that we don't get huge numbers infected at once, and then a flood of serious cases overwhelming medical capacity.

In light of that, the St Patricks Day parade should be cancelled.

Exactly what I've been trying to express, but worded better. Thank you.

"flatten the curve"

khalessi · 01-03-2020 03:03PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

All good.someone mentioned only 190 times they were frontline,battle hardened staff,so we the dumb,helpless public are at ease.
Now does anyone know how will I tie my shoelaces. I have to go outside.

Use velcro much easier

Kermit.de.frog · 01-03-2020 03:03PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Remember the measures other countries have taken such as closing schools and limiting the number of people gathering in one place are not about total containment.

No one is saying those steps will mean zero cases, it's about ensuring that we don't get huge numbers infected at once, and then a flood of serious cases overwhelming medical capacity.

In light of that, the St Patricks Day parade should be cancelled.

St Patrick's Day is a huge deal for us in terms of tourism and the economy.

I hope it can go ahead but I don't see it happening now

Xertz · 01-03-2020 03:04PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Yes, and this situation shows how vulnerable our just in time global supply chains are. I hope our essential items like medications are not so tight.

It does and it doesn’t. Just in time supply chains mean a typical Irish supermarket can stock tens of thousands of lines on their shelves without signifiant overheads. They still have very large supply scale for items that move quickly, but they can stock vast arrays of obscure items that don’t move so quickly by having advanced supply chain management.

The impact is that you can see a spike in demand for some items and that will deplete stock for a while until the supply chain replenishes it, which can be pretty rapid.

A lot of more staple items have far bigger capacity supply.

Pharmacy supplies are much more managed with a strategy to have stocks. Also I would suspect Brexit contingency planning may help in this scenario too as there was some degree of analysis and stockpiling done in the event of supply chain disruption.

Also Brexit is purely political so, if Coronavirus issues became very serious it might make sense to park the supply chain impacting aspects for 12 months or so.

cj maxx · 01-03-2020 03:04PM

I know of your one from Belfast who flew into Dublin but where are the two other cases confirmed. Dublin?

Duke of Url · 01-03-2020 03:04PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

St Patrick's Day is a huge deal for us in terms of tourism and the economy.

I hope it can go ahead but I don't see it happening now

It should be 100% cancelled.

Strazdas · 01-03-2020 03:05PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Remember the measures other countries have taken such as closing schools and limiting the number of people gathering in one place are not about total containment.

No one is saying those steps will mean zero cases, it's about ensuring that we don't get huge numbers infected at once, and then a flood of serious cases overwhelming medical capacity.

In light of that, the St Patricks Day parade should be cancelled.

That would be a total overreaction. One confirmed case in the Republic, a man who had been in Italy and no community transmission in Ireland.

Besides, the Dublin parade is not just a standalone event. The St.Patrick's festival lasts for four days, plus there are parades all the country.

SeaBreezes · 01-03-2020 03:05PM

Is it only weekends that the 'panic police' come out in force?
How do you become an expert on other people panicking?
Is there a course you can do, or is it a natural talent? :-)

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