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***** Motors chat - round 12 *****

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  • #7502
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,002 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    You are (obviously) wrong.

    The driver does not have right of way over the oncoming traffic - the black car.

    Don't get a motorbike if you don't understand this. As they say in the US: Most motorcycles last a lifetime... :eek:

    Not your ornery onager



  • #7503
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Esel wrote: »
    You are (obviously) wrong.


    If you actually read the post and question you'll see the question is asked about the car. The car is not the oncoming traffic.


  • #7504
    wotzgoingon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    The test is correct. Didn't have to think about it either knew straight away.


  • #7505
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wotzgoingon wrote: »
    The test is correct. Didn't have to think about it either knew straight away.


    How, though? Car is on the major road?


  • #7506
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Are you forgetting that you'd be turning across the path of the oncoming black car?
    If you tried your answer, you'd be under it or on it's bonnet


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  • #7507
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The black car, and the motorbike (the first person perspective) have right of way over the truck, as the truck is trying to join a major road from a minor one. The only vehicle that has to stop, is the truck.

    If I want to turn right, i have to let the car pass first. If the black car wants to follow it's line it just does so without passing any remarks to the other traffic, and if the truck wants to follow it's arrow it has to wait til other traffic has passed?


  • #7508
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Are you forgetting that you'd be turning across the path of the oncoming black car?
    If you tried your answer, you'd be under it or on it's bonnet


    As per the question:



    'what should the car driver do'


  • #7509
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Deleted User wrote: »
    As per the question:



    'what should the car driver do'
    It's directed at you


  • #7510
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Big Nasty wrote: »
    Eh, your shed is obviously infested dude

    It wasn’t last night :D


  • #7511
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,002 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    If you actually read the post and question you'll see the question is asked about the car. The car is not the oncoming traffic.
    Are you now being deliberately obtuse? The car driver is you...

    Not your ornery onager



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  • #7512
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,775 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Esel wrote: »
    Are you now being deliberately obtuse? The car driver is you...

    No he's not, he's the bike rider doing his bike theory test.


  • #7513
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,002 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    No he's not, he's the bike rider doing his bike theory test.
    Maybe, but he's driving a car in the scenario given - unless bikes have a steering wheel.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #7514
    wotzgoingon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    That threw a spanner in the works as they have a car question in with a bike test.

    You are the car driver in the car with just the steering wheel shown even though it is a motor bike test in that question.


  • #7515
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,775 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Esel wrote: »
    Maybe, but he's driving a car in the scenario given - unless bikes have a steering wheel.

    No, he's not. The question is asking what the car has to do, not what he has to do. I'd be certain there's a warning saying not all images are representative of actual scenarios or something.


  • #7516
    wotzgoingon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    No, he's not. The question is asking what the car has to do, not what he has to do. I'd be certain there's a warning saying not all images are representative of actual scenarios or something.

    He is how else would the correct answer be the one where you are the driver with the steering wheel.


  • #7517
    wotzgoingon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    Also the black car is not turning right he is going straight on even though there is a curve.


  • #7518
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,002 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    No, he's not. The question is asking what the car has to do, not what he has to do. I'd be certain there's a warning saying not all images are representative of actual scenarios or something.
    Which car though? Maybe the black one?
    No, it's the car from which the view is taken.

    What should the driver do equates to 'What should you do?'.

    The correct answer is given.

    I'm out of this discussion, go down the rabbit hole if you like.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #7519
    wotzgoingon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    The colour coded arrows even prove it. Green then blue then red.

    And as I said the only person turning right is you and the truck driver.


  • #7520
    newmember2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭newmember2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    ...If I want to turn right, i have to let the car pass first. ...

    There ya go...got there in the end.


  • #7521
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Wow, how would someone already driving not know this.

    Just because it's motorbike test doesn't mean the rules change.


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  • #7522
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wotzgoingon wrote: »
    That threw a spanner in the works as they have a car question in with a bike test.




    That's the only thing that I can think it might be - that they have a question in the wrong place.


    However, even so, the questions asks what does the car have to do, it doesn't ask what do I have to do (other questions are worded this way - asked as though they're talking to you).


    This one specifically mentions "the" car, and shows only one car, and places it in a motorbike test.


    I can see where I was going wrong, but it's definitely an issue on the RSA side of things as, as you say, it must be just a car question fired into the bike test (a lot of them are car questions, but are obviously car questions, whereas this one isn't so obvious at all).


  • #7523
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,002 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    The black car is referred to in two answers as 'the oncoming vehicle', so you really should have inferred that the 'car driver' in the question is not the driver of the black car.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #7524
    Dartz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭Dartz


    I would say that the test is poorly written - 'The Car Driver' is a form of language refers to another entity, and is ambiguous when there is another car shown.

    If there is an action required of the test-taker then the question should clearly be addressed to them. What should YOU do.


  • #7525
    Interslice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Interslice


    It's supposed to be the wind deflector on the bike, not a steering wheel. It's just badly illustrated. If you can't tell what a bike looks like when you're sitting on it you should stick with a car :pac:


  • #7526
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,574 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It's wild out there:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1233734570702524416


  • #7527
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    They were warned, it's not a place any high sided vehicle should be driving.

    Sail to the wind they are....


  • #7528
    Dartz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭Dartz


    Some reaction on the driver. He steers it right to save it, but the wind's already gotten a hold and over it goes like a dozing cow.


  • #7529
    Interslice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Interslice


    Went to the west and back east today. Madest thing i seen was some plug who decided todays the day I'll transport the massive mobile home in the back of the lorry. Roads were mad quiet though.

    Had to go meet the builder about a few things for the man cave. Getting a 6inch slab and a decent conduit run out for power and water supply. Hope to run out a 16sq swa to run all the bits. Dont know if I'll go down the 2 post lift route yet but be good to have it future proofed.

    Have to say the prius is a dream to drive through the storm and floods. Was a bit nervous going through the first deep waters last week. Water and eletcricty alarm bells were going off. The odd looking aero design is odd but it doesnt really feel the gusts on the plus side.


  • #7530
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Get the ESB conduit suitable..... Run your cables in that....


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  • #7531
    PsychoPete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,572 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Have a 2 post lift in one of the sheds but I put in an in floor scissor lift beside it. I actually prefer the scissor lift, looks a lot more tidy


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