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Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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  • #5612
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    lobbylad wrote: »
    Not saying its the case in this instance, but "legitimate interest" trumps consent.

    (as an example, try ringing the revenue and asking them to remove you from their systems as you don't give consent.......)

    What legitimate interest is involved here?

    There is no legitimate interest in a non-medically qualified principal gossiping about the medical treatment of one of his pupils.


  • #5613
    Titclamp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭Titclamp


    gabeeg wrote: »
    China is communist in name only.

    Compared to the communism you read in a book?


  • #5614
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    silverharp wrote: »
    Its a feature of Communism to cover up situations like this until they get out of control. The globe should start decoupling from China until they get rid of their system.

    Have you by any idea how ingrained into the economy of other countries China actually is? Guess who is one of the largest holders of US treasury debt is?


  • #5615
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1233373902279233536


  • #5616
    Titclamp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭Titclamp


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1233373902279233536[/quote

    Did the Italian piss off the Chinese by any chance?


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  • #5617
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


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  • #5618
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    gabeeg wrote: »
    China is communist in name only.

    so what? its not an open democracy, its an authoritarian top down driven society . How many people are employed by the Irish state scrubbing social media of discussion like the current one??

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #5619
    dan786
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    British passenger of the Diamond Princess cruise ship dies of coronavirus

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1233377008530460672


  • #5620
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Not necessarily. Other countries ramped up the number of tests based on the number of cases and the risk involved. We are doing the same.

    Only two days ago, we had posters on here ranting and raving about UK schools shutting down after Italian ski trips while all we did was advise pupils to stay at home if they have symptoms. Well what happened? After a few hours it turned out that the UK NHS advice was the same as ours and that the schools in the UK had overreacted.

    Did the panic merchants on here come back and apologise?

    Mate, they've done roughly 100 tests over the last month or so.
    They managed to do 10 tests yesterday. That's your ramp.

    Perhaps I'm wrong, as you say I'm no risk management expert (are you?), but 100 tests over the period of a month seems wholly inadequate to me.

    I'm not bashing their entire response to this crisis. Much of it has been as good as you could expect. It's just that I fear they're flying blind and I expect they're scrambling to catch up.


  • #5621
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    silverharp wrote: »
    so what? its not an open democracy, its an authoritarian top down driven society . How many people are employed by the Irish state scrubbing social media of discussion like the current one??

    I'm not defending China

    It's just that they haven't been communist in decades


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  • #5622
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Titclamp wrote: »
    Then why can't China be sued for causing this?

    Why should the world suffer cause of people munching on bats

    Hello Miss Bailey.


  • #5623
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Have you by any idea how ingrained into the economy of other countries China actually is? Guess who is one of the largest holders of US treasury debt is?

    yeah we are kind of learning that its a bad thing, for example below. The US should start bringing their companies home or diversify them elsewhere


    https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1233229547614752770

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #5624
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    ITman88 wrote: »
    If your economic predictions are correct, the least of your worries is the virus

    All predictions so far have been correct unfortunately.

    Virus is the bigger concern, can't spend money if your dead.
    Not so worried about possible sterilisation. Lung lesions might be a worry.

    US economy has been overheating with years and the virus hasn't hit them yet.
    I hope your right, and I'm wrong.

    May the odds be ever in your favour.


  • #5625
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Have you by any idea how ingrained into the economy of other countries China actually is? Guess who is one of the largest holders of US treasury debt is?
    Reducing our dependence on cheap Chinese labour is something we should be doing anyway to reduce emissions.

    But something like this might at least bring it into focus that concentrating a huge portion of global manufacturing into one region of the planet is not a wise strategy.


  • #5626
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    silverharp wrote: »
    yeah we are kind of learning that its a bad thing, for example below. The US should start bringing their companies home or diversify them elsewhere


    https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1233229547614752770
    I don't see US pharma workers working for the same rate of pay as their Chinese counterparts tbh.


  • #5627
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    No updates on numbers out of Italy today. Which is a bit worrying.


  • #5628
    redsteveireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I don't see US pharma workers working for the same rate of pay as their Chinese counterparts tbh.

    Very true, watch "American factory" on Netflix


  • #5629
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,013 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I don't see US pharma workers working for the same rate of pay as their Chinese counterparts tbh.

    And the people certainly wont pay more for anything produced to allow the wage increase.


  • #5630
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    gabeeg wrote: »
    No updates on numbers out of Italy today. Which is a bit worrying.

    or they've had no reports of new cases and the quarantine is doing its job so far


  • #5631
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    seamus wrote: »
    Reducing our dependence on cheap Chinese labour is something we should be doing anyway to reduce emissions.

    But something like this might at least bring it into focus that concentrating a huge portion of global manufacturing into one region of the planet is not a wise strategy.

    It may not be a wise strategy but if consumers want products at a cheap price it's the only one that works at present.


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  • #5632
    dan786
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    6 death on the cruise ship so far (2 today). RIP.


  • #5633
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    3174 masks per person per day if it's a 7 day week. Probably doable as I reckon the process is heavily automated.

    As long as the masks are able to stop the minuscule particles otherwise its damn useless as is anyone who is not sick as they would not be available for who needs them. Also are they multi use or 1 use


  • #5634
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I don't see US pharma workers working for the same rate of pay as their Chinese counterparts tbh.

    Some things are more important than getting the cheapest price when your production is controlled by an adversarial state, I'm surprised it has been allowed to go on for as long as it has.


  • #5635
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    I rang the HSE helpline last night cos I basically have all the symptoms and have come back from a high risk area a week ago and they said a doctor would call back within 24 hours.
    Still waiting.

    Can’t help but feel they’re just ignoring this.


  • #5636
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I don't see US pharma workers working for the same rate of pay as their Chinese counterparts tbh.

    I dont see China manufacturing medical supplies when you actually need them. Some things are worth paying more for them. As it is Black Market prices wont exactly be cheap.
    When medial equipment in hospitals start failing and the arts come from China, it will be a big wake up call

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #5637
    Ubbquittious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    pjohnson wrote: »
    And the people certainly wont pay more for anything produced to allow the wage increase.

    They will when they have no other option


  • #5638
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    gabeeg wrote: »
    No updates on numbers out of Italy today. Which is a bit worrying.

    There's a finite number of people they can get around to testing on a daily basis. China had the same problem for weeks as the daily death figures hovered around 100 each and every day for a while and new cases around 800 i think which i guess was them just appeasing media with numbers.


  • #5639
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    or they've had no reports of new cases and the quarantine is doing its job so far

    They've managed to do what the Chinese couldn't do and they've also found an effective treatment that stops people dying?

    But they haven't told anyone about it?

    The swines!


  • #5640
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Runaways wrote: »
    I rang the HSE helpline last night did I basically have all the symptoms and have come back from a high risk area a week ago and they said a doctor would call back within 24 hours.
    Still waiting.

    Can’t help but feel they’re just ignoring this.

    It hasn't been 24 hours?


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  • #5641
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Some things are more important than getting the cheapest price when your production is controlled by an adversarial state, I'm surprised it has been allowed to go on for as long as it has.

    Nothing is more important than profit.


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