new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

igCorcaigh wrote: »

'Coming soon: Country-specific pages (with live statistics and graphs for each country and region)'

Worldometers proving to be the best resource on this topic.

The guys that update that website are really enjoying themselves.... I can see them at it

If there are any trends here it is that wealthy nation's with top class infrastructure have a lower death rate and old populations have a higher death rate, beyond that I can draw no conclusions.
Edit: one more thing, viral load seems like a sensitive factor given the concentration of the outbreak in wuhan

Singapore cases seems to be slowing down.
Give some hope that warm weather can help slow down the virus.

gozunda wrote: »

That HSE Corona page is little better than a wet hanky imho. Useless. No advice or emergency contacts on the page for anyone reporting a possible Coronavirus infection. Ditto no advice at all about staying away from A&E and GP surgeries.

And again the only 'at risk' groups are those who may have been in "mainland China in the last 14 days" Evidently the HSE believe theres been no spread of infection at all...

This HSE page shows exactly how under resourced our hospitals are. Figures in red show the numbers waiting on trollies (the HSE hilariously refer to these patients as "trolley waiters"). The increase rate for those waiting to be seen is up approx 20% on this time last year.

Not a hope in hell patients with severe symptoms or those that may be in need of ICU resources are going to have a decent chance under the current system.

I recall seeing recently that Ireland's problem is that it spends the money, but gets half the outcome that other European countries get for the same level of expenditure. Everything in Ireland is inefficient and bogged down in the past. The legal system is a mess, the health system is a mess, the banking system is archaic.

Way too much emphasis on percentages here. None of the figures available at the moment from any country are reliable enough to determine what the death rates/ recovery rates, etc. will be. While the numbers are ramping up significantly these figures cannot be determined in a useful way. Death rates will probably get worse as total numbers increase and access to specialist healthcare facilities deteriorates (in both developing and developed countries ). There isn’t even any clarity on the incubation period, with suggestions it may be up to 27 days in some cases- in other words, at this point, we have no idea how many people in the world are currently infected.

We’re at the very early stages of this with just 0.001% of the world’s population officially recognised as infected so far. It could be months before we have a clearer picture.

Graces7 wrote: »

When I was finally diagnosed with M.E./CFIDS I read all the literature there was and bought every supplement alleged to help. Only thing affected was my bank account so now I rely on diet and an older person;s vitamin pill when I remember.
It was once mooted the eating liquorish would relieve M.E and we are highly motivated .. sadly a few died of liver/kidney failure eating too much.

A good diet should give all we need to fight infection but if it helps you feel you are doing more? Great.

And different things help different folk .

A good diet does little for people in Ireland in terms of vitamin D levels, which are low and deficient in winter due to lack of sunlight exposure. You might like to follow that link and do further research.

Anecdotally: When my daughter was in PS, I would be getting several colds a term that she brought home. I got in some vitamin D and started taking those and stopped getting symptomatic colds. I'd still get them sometimes - that oh 5h1t burning feeling in your throat - but a few hours later it would be gone. £8.71 delivered for 240 5000 iu capsules is a pretty cheap precaution. Those are probably a bit strong so one every 2-3 days should be enough.

Interesting in Dr Johns video he says he was in contact with colleagues in Iran and they said the virus attacks the heart as well.

When the coronavirus news first broke there were many videos of people just dropping on the street in China before the CCP cracked down on the internet.
I wonder, n China if those deaths are due to cardiac arrest or COVID19?

Perhaps it's the same virus but those that died of heart issues were not associated with the COVID?