new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

gozunda · 17-02-2020 11:53AM

fritzelly wrote: »

So deflecting and offering no proof

Lol. You disagreed with the other posters comment and not me. And you provided no 'proof' in that comment to show that the statistician quoted was wrong. So I'd suggest you up your game there or find a new line of feigning outrage which actually stands up to some scrutiny.

My question was - are "you're saying the Chinese figures are correct?". You haven't answered that btw.

cnocbui · 17-02-2020 12:00PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

I don't think its idiocy. I would say that is exactly what Japan wants. They don't want to have to deal with 4000 foreigners in quarantine. I can see their point. Its very selfish but I don't know how idiotic from their point of view.

If you knew that members of the crew had the virus and the numbers of crew infected continued to rise, would you sit back and let the crew continue to prepare meals for themselves and the passengers or would you stop that and provide the meals from shore, prepared by people who don't have the virus?

jam_mac_jam · 17-02-2020 12:04PM

cnocbui wrote: »

If you knew that members of the crew had the virus and the numbers of crew infected continued to rise, would you sit back and let the crew continue to prepare meals for themselves and the passengers or would you stop that and provide the meals from shore, prepared by people who don't have the virus?

I would provide meals from shore. That is crazy. I agree with you there.

I actually think the best thing would be take them off in small groups so you can test and quarantine and send home.

bmcc10 · 17-02-2020 12:07PM

Yurt! wrote: »

I have a good friend who is a long-term resident in Japan, he says he's very much enjoying seeing Japanese people gritting their teeth and being extra fake nice to the gaijin around for both the Rugby World Cup and the Olympics.

I'd say that says more about your friend tbh

Kermit.de.frog · 17-02-2020 12:10PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Examining will Britain or France take them when they are getting their citizens I would say.

They should not be brought back to Ireland for at least 2 weeks.

wakka12 · 17-02-2020 12:11PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f559ll/a_24yearold_who_travelled_from_wuhan_to_guangzhou/
A 24 year old patient in China developed symptoms one day after being quaratined for 14 days.

dominatinMC · 17-02-2020 12:23PM

A lot of really nonsensical remarks about the Japanese government on here. You have to ask yourself, what is the purpose of the Japanese government (or any government, for that matter). Clearly, it is to govern and, by-extension, make decisions on behalf-of (and for) its people. I believe the Japanese government made the decision not to treat the passengers on the ship, in the best interests of its own people - and who are we to criticise that decision. To be honest, if I was Japanese I would be glad they did so, looking after their own people first. I know it is a questionable decision, both morally and ethically, but you have to consider the greater good at times.

joseywhales · 17-02-2020 12:24PM

Be grand lads, come over and get your dose early, be better in the long run.

At least if you get it now and you develop acute illness, you can get treatment before the healthcare system is completely overwhelmed...think about it, head over , share around a few water bottles, head back and recover.

wakka12 · 17-02-2020 12:29PM

4 more cases in Japan. one with no links to existing infected

2 new in Singapore, incl a one year old child

Stark · 17-02-2020 12:30PM

joseywhales wrote: »

Be grand lads, come over and get your dose early, be better in the long run.

At least if you get it now and you develop acute illness, you can get treatment before the healthcare system is completely overwhelmed...think about it, head over , share around a few water bottles, head back and recover.

I would but I'm busy this weekend with my kids' chicken pox party.

fritzelly · 17-02-2020 12:33PM

gozunda wrote: »

Lol. You disagreed with the other posters comment and not me. And you provided no 'proof' in that comment to show that the statistician quoted was wrong. So I'd suggest you up your game there or find a new line of feigning outrage which actually stands up to some scrutiny.

My question was - are "you're saying the Chinese figures are correct?". You haven't answered that btw.

Sorry, your right wrong poster, but you replied to my challenge
I don't believe the official figures tell the whole story

ohnonotgmail · 17-02-2020 12:40PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Sorry, your right wrong poster, but you replied to my challenge
I don't believe the official figures tell the whole story

Unless i am very much mistaken that was entirely the point of the post you disagreed with. If you model the official figures they are far too perfect to be true. that was the point.

bmcc10 · 17-02-2020 12:48PM

Tokyo marathon has been cancelled pretty big deal now considering it was a chance for competitors to qualify for the Olympics.

MD1990 · 17-02-2020 12:51PM

bmcc10 wrote: »

Tokyo marathon has been cancelled pretty big deal now considering it was a chance for competitors to qualify for the Olympics.

cant see the Olympics going ahead unless by some great bit of luck the virus goes away.

fritzelly · 17-02-2020 12:59PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Unless i am very much mistaken that was entirely the point of the post you disagreed with. If you model the official figures they are far too perfect to be true. that was the point.

But they are not accurate unless you think 20% variance

ohnonotgmail · 17-02-2020 01:05PM

fritzelly wrote: »

But they are not accurate unless you think 20% variance

20% variance from what? the figures or the models?

Yurt2 · 17-02-2020 01:06PM

MD1990 wrote: »

cant see the Olympics going ahead unless by some great bit of luck the virus goes away.

Finally, Cork's big chance to shine! Get the diggers out lads, we've got an Olympic stadium to build! By Christ, we might actually get two events centres out of this.

dwayneshintzy · 17-02-2020 01:12PM

bmcc10 wrote: »

Tokyo marathon has been cancelled pretty big deal now considering it was a chance for competitors to qualify for the Olympics.

It hasn't been, it's been cancelled for the general public. Elite runners will still be running.

fritzelly · 17-02-2020 01:12PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

20% variance from what? the figures or the models?

The figures they are predicting

ohnonotgmail · 17-02-2020 01:19PM

fritzelly wrote: »

The figures they are predicting

the model mentioned in the article was 99% accurate. there is no way a model can be that accurate ergo the official figures it is based on are nonsense.

tuxy · 17-02-2020 01:19PM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

It hasn't been, it's been cancelled for the general public. Elite runners will still be running.

If you read more than the headlines you're not welcome here!

RebelButtMunch · 17-02-2020 01:21PM

bmcc10 wrote: »

Tokyo marathon has been cancelled pretty big deal now considering it was a chance for competitors to qualify for the Olympics.

Read the full article and please post sources.

bmcc10 · 17-02-2020 01:22PM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

It hasn't been, it's been cancelled for the general public. Elite runners will still be running.

Picked it up wrong on news, still though it been reduced to 176 runners from 38000 is massive

bmcc10 · 17-02-2020 01:23PM

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

Read the full article and please post sources.

Seen it on news in Japan where they spoke to a participant who said he just found out it was cancelled there was no article

Kermit.de.frog · 17-02-2020 01:34PM

Yurt! wrote: »

Finally, Cork's big chance to shine! Get the diggers out lads, we've got an Olympic stadium to build! By Christ, we might actually get two events centres out of this.

Your former mayor said your city is infected.

"Worse than Wuhan" he said...

War time conditions must be imposed.

SeaBreezes · 17-02-2020 01:43PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Your former mayor said your city is infected.

"Worse than Wuhan" he said...

War time conditions must be imposed.

Any follow up on that? Anyone hear anything?

GooglePlus · 17-02-2020 01:45PM

Considering this is very similar in make up to the original SARS pathogen, I wonder if it will just die off in the peak temp month of July.

It hates humidity and warmth, so maybe it'll just disappear like original SARS did??

wadacrack · 17-02-2020 01:53PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Considering this is very similar in make up to the original SARS pathogen, I wonder if it will just die off in the peak temp month of July.

It hates humidity and warmth, so maybe it'll just disappear like original SARS did??

The warmer weather should definitely help. Id be greatly worried about the Cruise ship developments however. It might be time to start looking into the most effective treatment for this, who is most vulnerable. How behavior can limit the spread. Containing the virus seems to be extremely difficult. Governments might not be totally transparent in a month or so to protect their economy

BorneTobyWilde · 17-02-2020 01:54PM

Keeping people on the cruise ship was a big mistake. You don't put 1000's on people into quarantine with an infected person. You remove them asap to self quarantine. All they did was infect 100's more, and now it's a case of move them before they all are infected.

silverharp · 17-02-2020 01:59PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Keeping people on the cruise ship was a big mistake. You don't put 1000's on people into quarantine with an infected person. You remove them asap to self quarantine. All they did was infect 100's more, and now it's a case of move them before they all are infected.

Mad scientist stuff for sure.

Probably a lot of patients who have normal flu etc catching it in Chinese hospitals too.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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