Random Fitness Questions

silverharp · 30-01-2020 03:38PM

Brian? wrote: »

Why would you add bands? If you want to make it harder you add more weight.

I understand using bands for things like benching or deadlifts to train through sticking points in the movement. Curls, I don’t see the point.

because I was told to :pac: . I assume the benefit is more constant tension , all circular movements drop off tension near the top

Alf Veedersane · 30-01-2020 03:48PM

silverharp wrote: »

because I was told to :pac: . I assume the benefit is more constant tension , all circular movements drop off tension near the top

Yeah but the same will be true with a band. Tension will be greater at the top than without but there will be a drop off.

And anyway, there's a trade off between constant tension and reduced intensity...so how do you know that band plus lower intensity is better than no band with higher intensity.

Brian? · 30-01-2020 05:34PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

WESTSIDE DENIER!!!

I was once a Westside acolyte. But I've been deporgrammed by inactivity.

Brian? · 30-01-2020 05:35PM

silverharp wrote: »

because I was told to :pac: . I assume the benefit is more constant tension , all circular movements drop off tension near the top

You do you man, but it seems like unneccesary farting around to me.

I'm a traditionalist. I believe in lifting a weight from A to B is the answer to everything.

lcstress2012 · 30-01-2020 10:56PM

Joined FLYEFIT but haven’t been yet. When you swipe your card at the turnstiles going in, do you have to swipe the card again going out???

Alf Veedersane · 30-01-2020 11:00PM

lcstress2012 wrote: »

Joined FLYEFIT but haven’t been yet. When you swipe your card at the turnstiles going in, do you have to swipe the card again going out???

No. There's a button on the gate...

Mellor · 31-01-2020 01:07AM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Yeah but the same will be true with a band. Tension will be greater at the top than without but there will be a drop off.

I think the logic is that the increased band tension at the top, offsets the reduced leverage of the weight at the top. Net affect being more uniform force throughout.

Alf Veedersane · 31-01-2020 08:17AM

Mellor wrote: »

I think the logic is that the increased band tension at the top, offsets the reduced leverage of the weight at the top. Net affect being more uniform force throughout.

I butchered what I was trying to say there and yeah the resistance increases as the muscle in a stronger position but the point still applies that it's not necessarily better than just a heavier weight.

Also, it's just a bicep curl...

Brian? · 31-01-2020 04:41PM

Mellor wrote: »

I think the logic is that the increased band tension at the top, offsets the reduced leverage of the weight at the top. Net affect being more uniform force throughout.

That's true.

But IMO, it's also true that it's a waste of time.

It's good example of people making things complicated when they don't need to be.

caviardreams · 31-01-2020 09:50PM

lcstress2012 wrote: »

Joined FLYEFIT but haven’t been yet. When you swipe your card at the turnstiles going in, do you have to swipe the card again going out???

In my branch you do, so it might depend which one it is.

Mellor · 01-02-2020 04:49AM

Brian? wrote: »

That's true.

But IMO, it's also true that it's a waste of time.

It's good example of people making things complicated when they don't need to be.

Completely agree. Not saying it’s worth it, just pointing out the logic behind the set up.

I do t see the need for uniform force. But if somebody does, then would be a lot easier to just use bicep curl machine. The pulley set up means there’s no leverage changes.

lcstress2012 · 01-02-2020 11:47AM

caviardreams wrote: »

In my branch you do, so it might depend which one it is.

It’s the one in Drumcondra

Alf Veedersane · 01-02-2020 12:26PM

lcstress2012 wrote: »

It’s the one in Drumcondra

If you have your card to get in then you'll have it to get out.

Try emailing them if it matters. I found them to be good at getting back when i contacted them.

el Fenomeno · 08-02-2020 07:38AM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

When doing bicep curls using a preacher bench / stand / whatever it's called, I find my lower arms (between my elbow and wrist) hurt. Am I doing them wrong?

This is with a barbell. Would dumbbells be better?

I don't get that pain when doing standing barbell curls. Only seems to be with the preacher.

Ugh, this is getting the better of me. Getting too much pain to power through, doing any variation of barbell, dumbbell or ez bar curl.

Going to give them a break for a couple of weeks and see how I feel. Interestingly, no pain whatsoever during seated hammer dumbbell curls, so might just stick to them for a bit.

Is there any other exercises recommended for biceps, even if only complimentary?

Brian? · 08-02-2020 08:04AM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Ugh, this is getting the better of me. Getting too much pain to power through, doing any variation of barbell, dumbbell or ez bar curl.

Going to give them a break for a couple of weeks and see how I feel. Interestingly, no pain whatsoever during seated hammer dumbbell curls, so might just stick to them for a bit.

Is there any other exercises recommended for biceps, even if only complimentary?

You need to go to a medical professional. Curls shouldn't hurt.

Alf Veedersane · 08-02-2020 09:10AM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Ugh, this is getting the better of me. Getting too much pain to power through, doing any variation of barbell, dumbbell or ez bar curl.

Going to give them a break for a couple of weeks and see how I feel. Interestingly, no pain whatsoever during seated hammer dumbbell curls, so might just stick to them for a bit.

Is there any other exercises recommended for biceps, even if only complimentary?

Is it the inside of your forearm that hurts?

el Fenomeno · 08-02-2020 10:17AM

Brian? wrote: »

You need to go to a medical professional. Curls shouldn't hurt.

Oh yeah I know it's not normal. I've done them before without pain, I think I must have just sprained/pulled something. I'm going to get it checked out if the pain is still there after a couple of weeks off the curls.

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Is it the inside of your forearm that hurts?

If you put your left hand out in front of you, palm facing flat down to the ground, it's the very left/outside of it that hurts. No pain at all until I get up to the "top" of a curl.

Didn't think too much of it until it started impacting other parts of my workout - i.e. even lifting up dumbbells onto knees/legs before lying down flat for chest press.

Just going to lay off them, see how I feel after a fortnight and if it's still there - get it checked out.

Just wondering if there's anything I could (apart from hammers) so I'm not completely neglecting biceps.

Alf Veedersane · 08-02-2020 11:00AM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Oh yeah I know it's not normal. I've done them before without pain, I think I must have just sprained/pulled something. I'm going to get it checked out if the pain is still there after a couple of weeks off the curls.

If you put your left hand out in front of you, palm facing flat down to the ground, it's the very left/outside of it that hurts. No pain at all until I get up to the "top" of a curl.

Didn't think too much of it until it started impacting other parts of my workout - i.e. even lifting up dumbbells onto knees/legs before lying down flat for chest press.

Just going to lay off them, see how I feel after a fortnight and if it's still there - get it checked out.

Just wondering if there's anything I could (apart from hammers) so I'm not completely neglecting biceps.

If hammers don't hurt, then they'll do.

el Fenomeno · 14-02-2020 06:36AM

Back with another question

Is it normal not to feel much of a "burn" when/after doing chest presses?

With most other exercises, I'll feel a burn in biceps, shoulders, glutes, calves etc. and will almost certainly have some minor form of doms afterwards, but never with my chest/pecs. When I can't do any more, it's usually because my arms are too tired/weak to keep pressing.

Is that just the nature of the muscle and where it is? I don't think my form is wrong - it seems like a fairly simple move and one of the easier ones in term of correct form.

Cill94 · 14-02-2020 11:00AM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Is it normal not to feel much of a "burn" when/after doing chest presses?

How much weight are you pressing?

Alf Veedersane · 14-02-2020 11:20AM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Back with another question

Is it normal not to feel much of a "burn" when/after doing chest presses?

With most other exercises, I'll feel a burn in biceps, shoulders, glutes, calves etc. and will almost certainly have some minor form of doms afterwards, but never with my chest/pecs. When I can't do any more, it's usually because my arms are too tired/weak to keep pressing.

Is that just the nature of the muscle and where it is? I don't think my form is wrong - it seems like a fairly simple move and one of the easier ones in term of correct form.

On the chest press, it might just be the width of your grip. The narrower it is, the more you'll feel it in your triceps.

FWIW, I don't really feel a burn in my chest on bench until I use a grip that's wider than my normal/competition grip width.

D'Agger · 14-02-2020 11:39AM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

On the chest press, it might just be the width of your grip. The narrower it is, the more you'll feel it in your triceps.

FWIW, I don't really feel a burn in my chest on bench until I use a grip that's wider than my normal/competition grip width.

Wouldn't feel a burn on a bench press compared to say a pec fly set but that's surely down to compound vs. isolation movements I'd have thought

Alf Veedersane · 14-02-2020 11:54AM

D'Agger wrote: »

Wouldn't feel a burn on a bench press compared to say a pec fly set but that's surely down to compound vs. isolation movements I'd have thought

Yep but also different movements. Chest press works triceps pecs and anterior delts so the triceps might get burned sooner than pecs because of the grip width.

Isolation movements where you're only really working the pecs, you don't have that.

iguana · 14-02-2020 04:33PM

When I do chest exercises I never feel that effort in my chest at the time. I feel the effort and tiredness in my arms and sometimes my lower core. But I can feel it in my chest muscles afterwards.

el Fenomeno · 20-02-2020 06:38AM

Another embarrassingly stupid question for you lot

When doing hammer curls with dumbbells, I'm doing a weight that my stronger arm is comfortable with but my weaker arm really struggles with (bit just about get to the number of reps I'm targeting).

Do I just keep going until both arms are on a level playing field, so to speak? It doesn't feel like my stronger arms biceps are getting much of a workout - is it silly to use a heavier weight on that side?

Alf Veedersane · 20-02-2020 08:02AM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Another embarrassingly stupid question for you lot

When doing hammer curls with dumbbells, I'm doing a weight that my stronger arm is comfortable with but my weaker arm really struggles with (bit just about get to the number of reps I'm targeting).

Do I just keep going until both arms are on a level playing field, so to speak? It doesn't feel like my stronger arms biceps are getting much of a workout - is it silly to use a heavier weight on that side?

You're trying to bring the weaker arm up to par. Using a heavier weight on the stronger side would reinforce the imbalance

Upforthematch · 21-02-2020 09:33AM

Which is better fitness wise - a 10 minute run 5 days a week or a 50 minute run once a week?

Aliastar · 21-02-2020 09:35AM

Upforthematch wrote: »

Which is better fitness wise - a 10 minute run 5 days a week or a 50 minute run once a week?

I would choose the first option

geotrig · 21-02-2020 09:47AM

if you have to , I would guess initially 10 min five days a week would be good to build base fitness as long as paces are varied but running for 10 will eventually not be enough and would suggest something in the middle of those 2 options. looks at the couch2 5k for a idea of how to build up runs.

D'Agger · 21-02-2020 10:11AM

I'd advocate for consistency - one 50 minute run will have you incredibly sore for a few days after if you're not used to it and will likely wear on your appetite to return. 5x10min runs will allow more of a build up towards improved fitness as others have mentioned.

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