Random Fitness Questions

silverharp

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Yeah but it's to be expected. Red blood cells carry oxygen. You've donated a chunk of your blood so takes time to recover that.

I never gave blood during the season cos of it

its an odd feeling when your body doesn't do what you expect it to do. I basically did 1000m at the same split I'd do a 2000m. The other conditioning seemed normal.

Alf Veedersane

silverharp wrote: »

its an odd feeling when your body doesn't do what you expect it to do. I basically did 1000m at the same split I'd do a 2000m. The other conditioning seemed normal.

RBCs take longest to recover to pre donation levels. At an elite level, where tiny margins matter, you're looking at weeks for that recovery.

lcstress2012

Does the FlyeFit in drumcondra have private shower cubicles (not open showers)? Thinking of joining! What do you all think of this gym ?

Mellor

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

At an elite level, where tiny margins matter, you're looking at weeks for that recovery.

At an elite level, they simply don't donate I imagine

Alf Veedersane

Mellor wrote: »

At an elite level, they simply don't donate I imagine

I doubt it. I wasn't suggesting they did, per se.

Mellor

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I doubt it. I wasn't suggesting they did, per se.

Or actually, they donate...to themselves at a later date.

el Fenomeno

When doing bicep curls using a preacher bench / stand / whatever it's called, I find my lower arms (between my elbow and wrist) hurt. Am I doing them wrong?

This is with a barbell. Would dumbbells be better?

I don't get that pain when doing standing barbell curls. Only seems to be with the preacher.

Alf Veedersane

el Fenomeno wrote: »

When doing bicep curls using a preacher bench / stand / whatever it's called, I find my lower arms (between my elbow and wrist) hurt. Am I doing them wrong?

This is with a barbell. Would dumbbells be better?

I don't get that pain when doing standing barbell curls. Only seems to be with the preacher.

Try with an EZ Bar or dumbbells and see. It feels uncomfortable when I use a strsight bar so I never do.

silverharp

As well as the EZ bar another tip that might help is add bands to the exercise, might smooth it out and possibly allow you to drop the weight a little bit , still with more bang for your buck

Brian?

el Fenomeno wrote: »

When doing bicep curls using a preacher bench / stand / whatever it's called, I find my lower arms (between my elbow and wrist) hurt. Am I doing them wrong?

This is with a barbell. Would dumbbells be better?

I don't get that pain when doing standing barbell curls. Only seems to be with the preacher.

I’d stop doing them. They’re not really needed if you do plenty of pulling and some ez bar curls.

Brian?

silverharp wrote: »

As well as the EZ bar another tip that might help is add bands to the exercise, might smooth it out and possibly allow you to drop the weight a little bit , still with more bang for your buck

Why would you add bands? If you want to make it harder you add more weight.

I understand using bands for things like benching or deadlifts to train through sticking points in the movement. Curls, I don’t see the point.

Alf Veedersane

Brian? wrote: »

Why would you add bands?

WESTSIDE DENIER!!!

silverharp

Brian? wrote: »

Why would you add bands? If you want to make it harder you add more weight.

I understand using bands for things like benching or deadlifts to train through sticking points in the movement. Curls, I don’t see the point.

because I was told to :pac: . I assume the benefit is more constant tension , all circular movements drop off tension near the top

Alf Veedersane

silverharp wrote: »

because I was told to :pac: . I assume the benefit is more constant tension , all circular movements drop off tension near the top

Yeah but the same will be true with a band. Tension will be greater at the top than without but there will be a drop off.

And anyway, there's a trade off between constant tension and reduced intensity...so how do you know that band plus lower intensity is better than no band with higher intensity.

Brian?

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

WESTSIDE DENIER!!!

I was once a Westside acolyte. But I've been deporgrammed by inactivity.

Brian?

silverharp wrote: »

because I was told to :pac: . I assume the benefit is more constant tension , all circular movements drop off tension near the top

You do you man, but it seems like unneccesary farting around to me.

I'm a traditionalist. I believe in lifting a weight from A to B is the answer to everything.

lcstress2012

Joined FLYEFIT but haven’t been yet. When you swipe your card at the turnstiles going in, do you have to swipe the card again going out???

Alf Veedersane

lcstress2012 wrote: »

Joined FLYEFIT but haven’t been yet. When you swipe your card at the turnstiles going in, do you have to swipe the card again going out???

No. There's a button on the gate...

Mellor

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Yeah but the same will be true with a band. Tension will be greater at the top than without but there will be a drop off.

I think the logic is that the increased band tension at the top, offsets the reduced leverage of the weight at the top. Net affect being more uniform force throughout.

Alf Veedersane

Mellor wrote: »

I think the logic is that the increased band tension at the top, offsets the reduced leverage of the weight at the top. Net affect being more uniform force throughout.

I butchered what I was trying to say there and yeah the resistance increases as the muscle in a stronger position but the point still applies that it's not necessarily better than just a heavier weight.

Also, it's just a bicep curl...

Brian?

Mellor wrote: »

I think the logic is that the increased band tension at the top, offsets the reduced leverage of the weight at the top. Net affect being more uniform force throughout.

That's true.

But IMO, it's also true that it's a waste of time.

It's good example of people making things complicated when they don't need to be.

caviardreams

lcstress2012 wrote: »

Joined FLYEFIT but haven’t been yet. When you swipe your card at the turnstiles going in, do you have to swipe the card again going out???

In my branch you do, so it might depend which one it is.

Mellor

Brian? wrote: »

That's true.

But IMO, it's also true that it's a waste of time.

It's good example of people making things complicated when they don't need to be.

Completely agree. Not saying it’s worth it, just pointing out the logic behind the set up.

I do t see the need for uniform force. But if somebody does, then would be a lot easier to just use bicep curl machine. The pulley set up means there’s no leverage changes.

lcstress2012

caviardreams wrote: »

In my branch you do, so it might depend which one it is.

It’s the one in Drumcondra

Alf Veedersane

lcstress2012 wrote: »

It’s the one in Drumcondra

If you have your card to get in then you'll have it to get out.

Try emailing them if it matters. I found them to be good at getting back when i contacted them.

el Fenomeno

el Fenomeno wrote: »

When doing bicep curls using a preacher bench / stand / whatever it's called, I find my lower arms (between my elbow and wrist) hurt. Am I doing them wrong?

This is with a barbell. Would dumbbells be better?

I don't get that pain when doing standing barbell curls. Only seems to be with the preacher.

Ugh, this is getting the better of me. Getting too much pain to power through, doing any variation of barbell, dumbbell or ez bar curl.

Going to give them a break for a couple of weeks and see how I feel. Interestingly, no pain whatsoever during seated hammer dumbbell curls, so might just stick to them for a bit.

Is there any other exercises recommended for biceps, even if only complimentary?

Brian?

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Ugh, this is getting the better of me. Getting too much pain to power through, doing any variation of barbell, dumbbell or ez bar curl.

Going to give them a break for a couple of weeks and see how I feel. Interestingly, no pain whatsoever during seated hammer dumbbell curls, so might just stick to them for a bit.

Is there any other exercises recommended for biceps, even if only complimentary?

You need to go to a medical professional. Curls shouldn't hurt.

Alf Veedersane

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Ugh, this is getting the better of me. Getting too much pain to power through, doing any variation of barbell, dumbbell or ez bar curl.

Going to give them a break for a couple of weeks and see how I feel. Interestingly, no pain whatsoever during seated hammer dumbbell curls, so might just stick to them for a bit.

Is there any other exercises recommended for biceps, even if only complimentary?

Is it the inside of your forearm that hurts?

el Fenomeno

Brian? wrote: »

You need to go to a medical professional. Curls shouldn't hurt.

Oh yeah I know it's not normal. I've done them before without pain, I think I must have just sprained/pulled something. I'm going to get it checked out if the pain is still there after a couple of weeks off the curls.

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Is it the inside of your forearm that hurts?

If you put your left hand out in front of you, palm facing flat down to the ground, it's the very left/outside of it that hurts. No pain at all until I get up to the "top" of a curl.

Didn't think too much of it until it started impacting other parts of my workout - i.e. even lifting up dumbbells onto knees/legs before lying down flat for chest press.

Just going to lay off them, see how I feel after a fortnight and if it's still there - get it checked out.

Just wondering if there's anything I could (apart from hammers) so I'm not completely neglecting biceps.

Alf Veedersane

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Oh yeah I know it's not normal. I've done them before without pain, I think I must have just sprained/pulled something. I'm going to get it checked out if the pain is still there after a couple of weeks off the curls.



If you put your left hand out in front of you, palm facing flat down to the ground, it's the very left/outside of it that hurts. No pain at all until I get up to the "top" of a curl.

Didn't think too much of it until it started impacting other parts of my workout - i.e. even lifting up dumbbells onto knees/legs before lying down flat for chest press.

Just going to lay off them, see how I feel after a fortnight and if it's still there - get it checked out.

Just wondering if there's anything I could (apart from hammers) so I'm not completely neglecting biceps.

If hammers don't hurt, then they'll do.