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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #5312
    Rvsmmnps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    Not true. You have immunity for a short while about 4 months...

    A few people have caught it twice in quick succession.The anti bodys last days,this is one area they have some certainty in


  • #5313
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Rvsmmnps wrote: »
    A few people have caught it twice in quick succession.The anti bodys last days,this is one area they have some certainty in

    Are you sure?
    People have caught it, fully recovered and then caught it again?

    Or people had it and then things have got worse because of extra exposure before recovery?


  • #5314
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Nope, antibodies are not lasting long, same with flu, colds etc so you are at as much chance to catch it again as someone who never had it

    Source? Any info I've read says you can't unless the virus mutates.
    Rvsmmnps wrote: »
    A few people have caught it twice in quick succession.The anti bodys last days,this is one area they have some certainty in

    Source?


  • #5315
    Rvsmmnps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    tuxy wrote: »
    Are you sure?
    People have caught it, fully recovered and then caught it again?

    Or people had it and then things have got worse because of extra exposure before recovery?

    im not sure,i just recall the urgency of the body not having antibodies long enough to be an issue with reinfection.


  • #5316
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    WHO cautions that the apparent slowdown in number of new confirmed cases does not necessarily mean the virus has peaked

    'WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said: "The number of newly reported cases from China has stabilised in the past week but that has to be interpreted with extreme caution.

    This outbreak could go in any direction."

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0212/1114788-coronavirus-ireland/


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  • #5317
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Rvsmmnps wrote: »
    this is one area they have some certainty in
    Rvsmmnps wrote: »
    im not sure

    Contradiction.


  • #5318
    anto9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    MD1990 wrote: »
    Ghebreyesus has defended the reaction of the Chinese authorities to the outbreak.



    seems like China have done all they can.

    But too late .


  • #5319
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Ehh that's not even possible.

    Your body becomes immune to it if you fought it off the first time unless it mutates rapidly or your immune system is fecked.

    Not true. The antibodies do not remain in your body for long. You could get this multiple times.


  • #5320
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f2xnch/local_a_village_in_vietnam_around_10000_people_is/
    A town in vietnam has been quaratined after 5 people living there tested positive


  • #5321
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Source? Any info I've read says you can't unless the virus mutates

    No one knows for sure yet - they are basing it on other coronaviruses, it could be as little as 14 days or...

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/256521.php#what-are-coronaviruses
    Among humans, infection most often occurs during the winter months as well as early spring. It is not uncommon for a person to become ill with a cold that is caused by a coronavirus and then catch it again about four months later.

    This is because coronavirus antibodies do not last for a very long time


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  • #5322
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Source? Any info I've read says you can't unless the virus mutates.



    Source?

    Have you got a source for your statement?


  • #5323
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Not true. The antibodies do not remain in your body for long. You could get this multiple times.

    Again I'll ask for a source as the multiple places I've checked have said no. At least with influenza. Is it different for corona?

    The only thing I could find is this which states certain individuals can which I said earlier. Those with weak immune systems.

    https://futurism.com/neoscope/scientists-warn-coronavirus-more-than-once


  • #5324
    anto9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    RebelButtMunch wrote: »
    I'm all booked up. By the time the summer comes it'll be either all gone or things will be dire and the last thing I'll be caring about is the money I lost on the flights

    Booked a short few days in Amsterdam with Ryanair for early April but will not book accommodation yet until i see how this is going .


  • #5325
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Not true. The antibodies do not remain in your body for long. You could get this multiple times.

    Some scientists had suspected the recovered may only have immunity for a few months if it's a virus that mutates fast.
    But that is only speculation from over a week ago when they had no info.

    I can't find the info on google, what's the best source to read about the latest developments on this matter?


  • #5326
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f2xnch/local_a_village_in_vietnam_around_10000_people_is/
    A town in vietnam has been quaratined after 5 people living there tested positive

    It's China round 2


  • #5327
    car_radio19834
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭car_radio19834


    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227688967912460290


  • #5328
    marvin80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,818 ✭✭✭marvin80


    anto9 wrote: »
    Booked a short few days in Amsterdam with Ryanair for early April but will not book accommodation yet until i see how this is going .

    Book it on booking.com and you can cancel it a few days before hand for free.


  • #5329
    Rvsmmnps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    tuxy wrote: »
    Contradiction.

    I am only reading headlines,so no certain information will come from me.So no contradiction.


  • #5330
    car_radio19834
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭car_radio19834


    9th case in the UK! First in London!

    Woman flew from China!


  • #5331
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Rvsmmnps wrote: »
    I am only reading headlines,so no certain information will come from me.So no contradiction.

    If you are just reading headlines why would you say it's the one area they have some certainty in?
    Why not ask if the headline you read could be true and then maybe someone can get back with some credible sources.


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  • #5332
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    More sensationalist click bait titles taken as facts. No surprise there then.


  • #5333
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ten thousand people locked down just 25 miles away. Was hoping this week would be less dramatic so I could go back to work next week.


  • #5334
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I'm a bit reassured that we haven't seen chains of sustained h2h, seems to be a few superspreaders from Asia, but transmission then seems to stop.

    Next couple of weeks should tell a lot.


  • #5335
    Rvsmmnps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    tuxy wrote: »
    If you are just reading headlines why would you say it's the one area they have some certainty in?
    Why not ask if the headline you read could be true and then maybe someone can get back with some credible sources.

    Isnt it a bit of a job understanding what is and isnt credible.


  • #5336
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Rvsmmnps wrote: »
    Isnt it a bit of a job understanding what is and isnt credible.

    That's a fact. The era of clickbait, fake news and twatter. The MSM aren't any better either.


  • #5337
    wellwhynot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭wellwhynot


    car_radio19834 wrote: »
    9th case in the UK! First in London!

    Woman flew from China!

    I cannot fathom how people are still able to hop on a flight from China. We had a real chance to stop this from turning into a pandemic two weeks ago but no our government and the U.K. seem more concerned with the economy.

    It is very short sighted I believe. As and from last week I have been curtailing all of our social activities. We won’t be going out for dinner, shopping centres, pubs, cinema etc until this has passed or the government has stopped allowing people in from infected areas.


  • #5338
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    wellwhynot wrote: »
    I cannot fathom how people are still able to hop on a flight from China. We had a real chance to stop this from turning into a pandemic two weeks ago but no our government and the U.K. seem more concerned with the economy.

    Agreed. The economic fallout from a full blown pandemic will be far higher. Global supply chains will be hit.


  • #5339
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    wellwhynot wrote: »
    I cannot fathom how people are still able to hop on a flight from China. We had a real chance to stop this from turning into a pandemic two weeks ago but no our government and the U.K. seem more concerned with the economy.

    It is very short sighted I believe. As and from last week I have been curtailing all of our social activities. We won’t be going out for dinner, shopping centres, pubs, cinema etc until this has passed or the government has stopped allowing people in from infected areas.

    A lot of people with their heads in the sand, you only have to read this very thread to see that.

    RTE 9 o clock news tonight 21 minutes in and literally a 22 second section on this. Your licence fee at work folks.


  • #5340
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    I've tried to be optimistic.
    but someone in London with the virus is a disaster.

    everything will shutdown in 2-3 weeks

    hope I'm wrong


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  • #5341
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I read a report of a study on emergency disaster situations and the usual case is that first warnings are dismissed second warnings are told to shut up and then it hits and its too late.


    An example was given of a stationary airplane that collided on the runway with another that was landing taking off its roof/top. There were a few seconds to leave the seat and jump off but most just froze and stayed put and died in the fire. Those that reacted quickly got away.
    The conclusion is that people come to believe that the way things are can't change. Sometimes they do very quickly.


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