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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #5102
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    So no need to plan a summer holiday this year, looks like we all might be doing the old staycation?


  • #5103
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    BBC News - Coronavirus: Singapore bank evacuated after worker falls ill
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51470363

    Got to be worrying for all the employees


  • #5104
    el Fenomeno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    The attached arrived for me today. Scared to open it now!


  • #5105
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    el Fenomeno wrote: »
    The attached arrived for me today. Scared to open it now!

    If there’s bubble wrap in there don’t pop it !


  • #5106
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Is there a date of postage on it?


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  • #5107
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    el Fenomeno wrote: »
    The attached arrived for me today. Scared to open it now!

    s-l1000.jpg

    wire+brush.jpg

    s-l1000.jpg

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #5108
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    The ALDI ones are 73.5% ethanol, Lacura brand.

    I got the last two in D3 -> at least at the checkout aisle I was queuing at.

    As an aside, I might get some black \ white pudding - technically you can eat it hot or cold as it is already pre-cooked :)
    They have two varieties, with different levels of alcohol. The official advice is greater than 60%.


  • #5109
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Wibbs wrote: »
    s-l1000.jpg

    wire+brush.jpg

    s-l1000.jpg

    thank you for reminding me of the Billy Connolly wire brush and dettol joke.


  • #5110
    el Fenomeno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Is there a date of postage on it?

    23/12 per the label.


  • #5111
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,011 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Have I stumbled on the cooking forum?!!
    Wtf! Can we keep it to updates on the virus and not your prepping lists. There is a forum for prepping.


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  • #5112
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,012 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    joseywhales wrote: »
    dont forget a few months supply of contraception, if there is one thing bunkers are famous for

    Terrible idea, you are supposed to re-populate the deserted world on emerging from your bunker.


  • #5113
    skallywag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,035 ✭✭✭skallywag


    Was chatting to a work colleague based in Shanghai this morning, he has been cooped up for 20+ days in his apartment now with his family, with at least another two weeks of the same on the horizon. It is really starting to wear folk down psychologically now, and no wonder. You order the essentials such as groceries online, and they get delivered to the entrance to apartment complexes.

    Production in China is still completely on hold after CNY, the project we are working on is hit with a ca one month delay already as a direct consequence, with no real end in sight, workers are being told week by week to stay away for another week, etc.

    There also does not seem to be any plateau in sight either at the moment:

    http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/news/TrackingtheEpidemic.htm


  • #5114
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,012 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Can i ask how recently you bought the Aldi hand gels and in which store? I have looked in a few places but all seem to be sold out. I have everything else sorted but would like to get a rake of these if i can.

    I bought some 73.5% ethanol hand sanitizer in Lidl yesterday.


  • #5115
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    The GP in Brighton was seeing patients for two days before being diagnosed, two days of close personal unprotected contact with dozens(of probably most already ill and elderly people). I assume they are being traced but honestly the way western governments have reacted to this so far I wouldnt be surprised if they arent being


  • #5116
    [Deleted User]
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    el Fenomeno wrote: »
    23/12 per the label.

    I don’t know what to suggest. It’s only pillows so I guess it would be no big financial loss to not touch them.


  • #5117
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,743 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    But I do have a fireplace and 2 years worth of timber to burn.

    My hubby is gonna have a “see, I told ya we should stock up” field day!


    The smoke will attract the viral zombies.
    Hubby's schadenfreude will be short lived.


  • #5118
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    I don’t know what to suggest. It’s only pillows so I guess it would be no big financial loss to not touch them.

    even assuming the person who packed it in china coughed directly into the envelope any virus would be dead in the weeks it takes those parcels to get here.


  • #5119
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    skallywag wrote: »
    Was chatting to a work colleague based in Shanghai this morning, he has been cooped up for 20+ days in his apartment now with his family, with at least another two weeks of the same on the horizon. It is really starting to wear folk down psychologically now, and no wonder. You order the essentials such as groceries online, and they get delivered to the entrance to apartment complexes.

    Production in China is still completely on hold after CNY, the project we are working on is hit with a ca one month delay already as a direct consequence, with no real end in sight, workers are being told week by week to stay away for another week, etc.

    There also does not seem to be any plateau in sight either at the moment:

    http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/news/TrackingtheEpidemic.htm

    February 09, 2020

    Confirmed cases: 2,656 new, 37,198 total. Suspected cases: 3,916 new, 28,942 total.

    February 12, 2020
    Confirmed cases: 2,015 new, 44,653 total. Suspected cases: 3,342 new, 16,067 total.

    Deaths: 97 new, 1,113 total. Recoveries: 744 new, 4,740 total.

    think there is a bit of a positive sign it is starting to slow down a bit.

    Not the deaths sadly.


  • #5120
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,743 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    I don’t know what to suggest. It’s only pillows so I guess it would be no big financial loss to not touch them.


    I would think it's very low risk but leave it outside in direct sunlight for a few days if you're concerned.


  • #5121
    reg114
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭reg114


    It has to be remembered that the annual influenza virus kills 500,000 people globally, in that context 1000 Coronavirus fatalities in China with a population in excess of 1.2 billion is beyond miniscule.


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  • #5122
    reg114
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭reg114


    It has to be remembered that the annual influenza virus kills 500,000 people globally, in that context 1000 Coronavirus fatalities in China with a population in excess of 1.2 billion is beyond miniscule.


  • #5123
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    skallywag wrote: »
    Was chatting to a work colleague based in Shanghai this morning, he has been cooped up for 20+ days in his apartment now with his family, with at least another two weeks of the same on the horizon. It is really starting to wear folk down psychologically now, and no wonder. You order the essentials such as groceries online, and they get delivered to the entrance to apartment complexes.

    Production in China is still completely on hold after CNY, the project we are working on is hit with a ca one month delay already as a direct consequence, with no real end in sight, workers are being told week by week to stay away for another week, etc.

    There also does not seem to be any plateau in sight either at the moment:

    http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/news/TrackingtheEpidemic.htm

    I am a financial broker. When you talk to people about life assurance, serious illness cover and income protection you can tell that many people don’t really think that they are going to be claiming on any of them. It’s not that people need to panic and worry about it, more ponder the potential and the consequences. I really think we humans don’t like doing that to the point where we bury any sort of negative thoughts deep down so we don’t get worried.

    I’ve had pneumonia, flu and bronchitis in the last few years. Have some sort of rhespiratory condition right now (which I am told is allergies but I’m not sure it’s just that as my wife has now got something similar). Every year I seem to have some sort of rhespiratory condition. Now there is a virus spreading across the world, including the most technologically advanced and best prepared countries. It’s not clear if this is gonna just blow itself out or if it will become the pandemic a lot of respected people are predicting.

    Based on my own medical status (rhespiratory issues) I could very well be in the danger zone of potential affected with this virus on the severe end of the scale. Am I mad not to get some provisions (masks- maybe even an expensive one, Oxygen filter system that I prob could use every year regardless of virus but might help if our services are over run and I can’t get to a hospital ) or am I better off waiting until things get potentially worse at which time the cost to get the provisions I need would be prohibitive?

    I have one life, I don’t understand how thinking this through and weighing up these considerations is anything other then prudent due diligence.


  • #5124
    car_radio19834
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭car_radio19834


    Sad video of a woman in China being bundled into a box on the back of a pickup while screaming by guys in hazmats. :(

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz-mht7iz8M&feature=youtu.be


  • #5125
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    MD1990 wrote: »
    February 09, 2020

    Confirmed cases: 2,656 new, 37,198 total. Suspected cases: 3,916 new, 28,942 total.

    February 12, 2020
    Confirmed cases: 2,015 new, 44,653 total. Suspected cases: 3,342 new, 16,067 total.

    Deaths: 97 new, 1,113 total. Recoveries: 744 new, 4,740 total.

    think there is a bit of a positive sign it is starting to slow down a bit.

    Not the deaths sadly.


    I'd be very wary of any figures being put out tbh. The Chinese want to be open to business asap again and might be willing to put a positive spin on them. They've made a superhuman effort to stop it taking hold in Beijing or Shanghai and we should all be thankful for that.


  • #5126
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Is anyone else surprised by lack of chatter say outside this thread? No one in work is discussing it, bar if someone coughs everyone 'jokes' oh is that Corona. They just don't seem worried or concerned at all. I'm hoping for the best but am picking up a few bits with the shopping 'incase'. I have the smallies washing their hands much more, same with myself, much more conscious of touching face/surfaces etc. My parents seem to not even notice any of it.


  • #5127
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,390 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    reg114 wrote: »
    It has to be remembered that the annual influenza virus kills 500,000 people globally, in that context 1000 Coronavirus fatalities in China with a population in excess of 1.2 billion is beyond miniscule.
    True but what is the fatality rate for someone that catches it?
    Isn't coronavirus 1-2%? That's pretty high
    Flu seems to be roughly 0.095% a bit of a difference


  • #5128
    one armed dwarf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    pc7 wrote: »
    Is anyone else surprised by lack of chatter say outside this thread? No one in work is discussing it, bar if someone coughs everyone 'jokes' oh is that Corona. They just don't seem worried or concerned at all. I'm hoping for the best but am picking up a few bits with the shopping 'incase'. I have the smallies washing their hands much more, same with myself, much more conscious of touching face/surfaces etc. My parents seem to not even notice any of it.

    Yes, I bring it up at work and it just invites ridicule or bad jokes about corona beer.

    We have one of those alcohol disinfect dispenser things on the way in, been empty for probably years.


  • #5129
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,435 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    reg114 wrote: »
    It has to be remembered that the annual influenza virus kills 500,000 people globally, in that context 1000 Coronavirus fatalities in China with a population in excess of 1.2 billion is beyond miniscule.

    If you believe those numbers it'd have to make you wonder why China quarantined affected provinces? Shut down factories and universities?
    The figures from China are not believable.
    Look at what they are doing not what figures they are reporting.

    If this scares the Chinese government, it should be a matter of serious concern to us all.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #5130
    reg114
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭reg114


    gmisk wrote: »
    True but what is the fatality rate for someone that catches it?
    Isn't coronavirus 1-2%? That's pretty high

    It's 2%, which is a fifth of the 10% fatality rate of SARS, while 35% died when infected with MERS.

    The problem with the Coronavirus is its now the subject of 24/7 news coverage and a top trending topic on all social media platforms. Folks until people are being diagnosed with the virus in Ireland in their 1000s you do not need to cause yourself unnecessary worry.


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  • #5131
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    reg114 wrote: »
    It's 2%, which is a fifth of the 10% fatality rate of SARS, while 35% died when infected with MERS.

    The problem with the Coronavirus is its now the subject of 24/7 news coverage and a top trending topic on all social media platforms. Folks until people are being diagnosed with the virus in Ireland in their 1000s you do not need to cause yourself unnecessary worry.

    Except it's not actually 2% since the unconfirmed cases are not accounted for at all in that figure.
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    If you believe those numbers it'd have to make you wonder why China quarantined affected provinces? Shut down factories and universities?
    The figures from China are not believable.
    Look at what they are doing not what figures they are reporting.

    If this scares the Chinese government, it should be a matter of serious concern to us all.

    Because they have a massive population and many massive cities where a virus like this could spread easily and kill millions of sick and elderly.

    Ireland doesn't have that problem.


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