No right wing alternative= No alternative

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-02-2020 10:19AM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

I dislike your racist policy but I support a socialist party?. :rolleyes:

What people are essentyially saying here.

But again: what exactly is the ideal you are stating here? How far from center to the right do you mean? What parites - that poll and score well - exist in other countries do you feel are lacking here?

Because if you can't answer that and you don't know yourself, it's even harder for us to gauge!

Lonesomerhodes · 12-02-2020 01:08PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

What people are essentyially saying here.

But again: what exactly is the ideal you are stating here? How far from center to the right do you mean? What parites - that poll and score well - exist in other countries do you feel are lacking here?

Because if you can't answer that and you don't know yourself, it's even harder for us to gauge!

So a right wing party to me be like France's National Rally.

We need an Irish Marie Le Pen.

For example not afraid to point out African immigrants raping Irish women, like the girl who was held down and gang raped in Donegal in November. 1 just 1 media outlet reported it!.

Skylinehead · 12-02-2020 01:14PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

So a right wing party to me be like France's National Rally.

We need an Irish Marie Le Pen.

For example not afraid to point out African immigrants raping Irish women, like the girl who was held down and gang raped in Donegal in November. 1 just 1 media outlet reported it!.

Nobody wants one. You lost.

Brian? · 12-02-2020 01:17PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

So a right wing party to me be like France's National Rally.

We need an Irish Marie Le Pen.

For example not afraid to point out African immigrants raping Irish women, like the girl who was held down and gang raped in Donegal in November. 1 just 1 media outlet reported it!.

Jean-Marie Le Pen. Father. Marine Le Pen is the daughter. At least get your hero’s name right.

We have many people vying to be the Irish Marine la Pen. They got less than 1% of the vote.

Brian? · 12-02-2020 01:19PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

People don't understand throwing drinks on someone is a form of assault just like an attack or rape.

What's ironic is attacking someone for being a Nationalist yet supporting Sinn Fein.

(however Sinn Fein sold out a long time ago)

I mean really how stupid can one be?.

I dislike your Nationalist policy but I support a Nationalist party?. :rolleyes:

The irony.

Geuze · 12-02-2020 01:23PM

I consider the following as not realistic candidates: Irish National Party/Irexit/etc., they are not an alternative.

What we need is FG to regain its status as a centre-right party, with the following attributes:

less of the SJW / woke / identity politics crap
reform income tax so that people on average wage 37k don't face the top MTR
reform welfare to encourage non-workers to work
drive down the costs of living
always put workers first in terms of housing / social benefits, etc.

Loafing Oaf · 12-02-2020 01:25PM

Geuze wrote: »

I consider the following as not realistic candidates: Irish National Party/Irexit/etc., they are not an alternative.

What we need is FG to regain its status as a centre-right party,

FG will never do that until it faces a serious challenge to its right.

Lonesomerhodes · 12-02-2020 01:29PM

Brian? wrote: »

Jean-Marie Le Pen. Father. Marine Le Pen is the daughter. At least get your hero’s name right.

We have many people vying to be the Irish Marine la Pen. They got less than 1% of the vote.

Well everyone on planet Earth refers to her as Marie Le Pen so it will do me!.

Hero LOL.

That Antifa balaclava get itchy at times?.

(wonder why every Mod on this is hardcore left/Antifa supporting; YOU DO REALIZE YOU SUPPORT AN ORGANISATION THAT ATTACKS CHILDREN ON THE STREET?. VIDEO IS ONLINE)

Lonesomerhodes · 12-02-2020 01:37PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

Nobody wants one. You lost.

Lost what I didn't run in the GE. :P

I do believe a proper right wing Irish Marie le Pen type clean up with votes in this country.

People are sick of their taxes going on economic migrants while Irish folk die on the street.

CtevenSrowder · 12-02-2020 01:37PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Well everyone on planet Earth refers to her as Marie Le Pen so it will do me!.

Hero LOL.

That Antifa balaclava get itchy at times?.

(wonder why every Mod on this is hardcore left/Antifa supporting; YOU DO REALIZE YOU SUPPORT AN ORGANISATION THAT ATTACKS CHILDREN ON THE STREET?. VIDEO IS ONLINE)

Brian is a mod of fitness not CA or after hours. One of the mods on CA is a (former?) Thatcherite as far as I'm aware. Hardly a supporter of anti-fa.

Brian? · 12-02-2020 01:49PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Well everyone on planet Earth refers to her as Marie Le Pen so it will do me!.

Hero LOL.

No, they don't. At least own your mistake.

That Antifa balaclava get itchy at times?.

Nah. It's a lovely merino wool and lycra mix.

(wonder why every Mod on this is hardcore left/Antifa supporting; YOU DO REALIZE YOU SUPPORT AN ORGANISATION THAT ATTACKS CHILDREN ON THE STREET?. VIDEO IS ONLINE)

A thing or three for you. I mod the fitness forum, it's pretty politically neutral. Unless you get into the politics of crossfit.

I don't support Antifa, but i am definitely anti fascist.

Why the all caps? It looks silly.

Brian? · 12-02-2020 01:50PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Lost what I didn't run in the GE. :P

I do believe a proper right wing Irish Marie le Pen type clean up with votes in this country.

People are sick of their taxes going on economic migrants while Irish folk die on the street.

Where is your evidence for this assertion?

ohnonotgmail · 12-02-2020 01:57PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Lost what I didn't run in the GE. :P

I do believe a proper right wing Irish Marie le Pen type clean up with votes in this country.

People are sick of their taxes going on economic migrants while Irish folk die on the street.

and yet immigration was only an issue for 1% of the electorate in the recent election.

The Nal · 12-02-2020 02:16PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and yet immigration was only an issue for 1% of the electorate in the recent election.

And the people who ran exclusively on the immigration issue, like the National Party and Gems crew, got an average of, yep, 1% of the vote.

Its almost like the two are linked....

Well, actually less than 1%. Laughable. Pathetic. Embarrassing.

Lonesomerhodes · 12-02-2020 02:46PM

Brian? wrote: »

No, they don't. At least own your mistake.

Nah. It's a lovely merino wool and lycra mix.

A thing or three for you. I mod the fitness forum, it's pretty politically neutral. Unless you get into the politics of crossfit.

I don't support Antifa, but i am definitely anti fascist.

Why the all caps? It looks silly.

You don't support Antifa but have been defending them all thread long!. :rolleyes:

Can I ask you why you support an organisation that attacks young children on the streets of Dublin?.
How is that anti-fascist?

Granny15 · 12-02-2020 02:48PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Lost what I didn't run in the GE. :P

I do believe a proper right wing Irish Marie le Pen type clean up with votes in this country.

People are sick of their taxes going on economic migrants while Irish folk die on the street.

That's the rights problem particularly FG - they blame everyone else including migrants.

Incapable of looking at themselves and bettering themselves.

Narcissistic self entitled toffs.

In fact they deflect the blame of pilfering the country's money by defelcting - it's unbeleivable what they have gotten away with up to this point.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-02-2020 03:11PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

So a right wing party to me be like France's National Rally.

We need an Irish Marie Le Pen.

For example not afraid to point out African immigrants raping Irish women, like the girl who was held down and gang raped in Donegal in November. 1 just 1 media outlet reported it!.

That's pretty much what was in offer and it got hammered. Dressing it up like she slightly not-as-far-right as far right doesn't change things: the issues simply weren't as important to 98% of the voters. Your question now should be: why not?

So the answer to your question is: no party exists better the electorate won't support it.

Can't comment on the alleged incident without more info and a link to substantiate it, so I'm not taking that into account

Lonesomerhodes · 12-02-2020 03:18PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

That's pretty much what was in offer and it got hammered. Dressing it up like she slightly not-as-far-right as far right doesn't change things: the issues simply weren't as important to 98% of the voters. Your question now should be: why not?

So the answer to your question is: no party exists better the electorate won't support it.

Can't comment on the alleged incident without more info and a link to substantiate it, so I'm not taking that into account

Alleged incident?. Please don't make fun/light of a girl being raped it's not alleged it's fact, found guilty with their DNA all over her.

There's the link to the story of the girl being raped.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/two-donegal-residents-found-guilty-20826446

FreeThePants · 12-02-2020 03:21PM

Geuze wrote: »

reform welfare to encourage non-workers to work
drive down the costs of living

One provision of this that would be a major benefit would be employment insurance. Basically if you get laid off (anything other than misconduct or quitting) you get about 2/3rds of what you were earnings, for a set period of time like 3-6 months (after which it drops back to standard dole).

Absolutely fantastic setup, avoids huge financial scares for people if a business goes bust, and means an accountant doesn't get stuck in competition for lower skilled or even unskilled jobs just to keep on their feet. Also means far less issues around anxiety, depression etc from being laid off.

Basically if you make €1000 a week and are let go for reasons beyond your control, you go to €600-650 for a while before getting dumped right down to €188 or whatever it is these days.

dan1895 · 12-02-2020 03:40PM

Brian? wrote: »

Where is your evidence for this assertion?

This is where you usually lose the loons, asking for evidence of things.

dan1895 · 12-02-2020 03:40PM

Brian? wrote: »

Where is your evidence for this assertion?

This is where you usually lose the loons, asking for evidence of things.

Billy Mays · 12-02-2020 04:04PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

So a right wing party to me be like France's National Rally.

We need an Irish Marie Le Pen.

For example not afraid to point out African immigrants raping Irish women, like the girl who was held down and gang raped in Donegal in November. 1 just 1 media outlet reported it!.

Another lie

https://www.thejournal.ie/donegal-rape-trial-4881558-Nov2019/

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2019/1106/1089144-letterkenny-court/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/two-men-found-guilty-of-raping-student-who-they-brought-back-to-flat-after-night-out-1.4074411

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/two-men-found-guilty-of-raping-student-who-came-back-to-their-flat-after-night-out-38667437.html

I can post more links if you want

The Nal · 12-02-2020 04:07PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Alleged incident?. Please don't make fun/light of a girl being raped it's not alleged it's fact, found guilty with their DNA all over her.

There's the link to the story of the girl being raped.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/two-donegal-residents-found-guilty-20826446

It was widely reported. The Times, The Indo, Extra.ie, Breaking News, The Scum, The Liberal, Courts New Ireland all reported it. Their names and pictures.

Horrible incident.

Whats also horrible is you deliberately lying about it, in an attempt to use the incident to promote some "MSM" cover up and to tarnish all immigrants with the same "they're all rapists" brush.

Billy Mays wrote: »

Another lie

https://www.thejournal.ie/donegal-rape-trial-4881558-Nov2019/

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2019/1106/1089144-letterkenny-court/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/two-men-found-guilty-of-raping-student-who-they-brought-back-to-flat-after-night-out-1.4074411

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/two-men-found-guilty-of-raping-student-who-came-back-to-their-flat-after-night-out-38667437.html

I can post more links if you want

What is it with these peoples problems with facts? Easily available facts. Its bizarre. Thankfully they're in the bottom 1% of society.

OneEightSeven · 12-02-2020 04:09PM

super_furry wrote: »

The right wing alternative is there.

The right wing alternative was on the ballot paper.

The right wing alternative failed and was roundly ignored.

Irish people don't want that kind of politics.

I would imagine the same argument was made in Sweden back in the day, but now the Swedish Democrats are topping most recent polls.

Skylinehead · 12-02-2020 04:12PM

Billy Mays wrote: »

Another lie

https://www.thejournal.ie/donegal-rape-trial-4881558-Nov2019/

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2019/1106/1089144-letterkenny-court/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/two-men-found-guilty-of-raping-student-who-they-brought-back-to-flat-after-night-out-1.4074411

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/two-men-found-guilty-of-raping-student-who-came-back-to-their-flat-after-night-out-38667437.html

I can post more links if you want

Caught rapid. Standard fare.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-02-2020 04:13PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Alleged incident?. Please don't make fun/light of a girl being raped it's not alleged it's fact, found guilty with their DNA all over her.

There's the link to the story of the girl being raped.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/two-donegal-residents-found-guilty-20826446

I'm perfectly entitled to call enything alleged up until you include some form of reference I can refer to. Otherwise, don't post it and expect me to comment.

Frither more, as has been commented, it;s extensively coveted, so please don't make light of the incident by using it as a political tool and lying about its coverage.

Also, you haven't commented on the rest of my post. Is this becuase you agree with it or you want to do so now?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

That's pretty much what was in offer and it got hammered. Dressing it up like she slightly not-as-far-right as far right doesn't change things: the issues simply weren't as important to 98% of the voters. Your question now should be: why not?

So the answer to your question is: no party exists better the electorate won't support it.

Technocentral · 12-02-2020 04:24PM

Every Country has its rump of pathetic, uneducated, socialy inadequate racist scumbags, thankfully its below 1% in this Country.

Lonesomerhodes · 12-02-2020 04:39PM

Billy Mays wrote: »

Another lie

https://www.thejournal.ie/donegal-rape-trial-4881558-Nov2019/

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2019/1106/1089144-letterkenny-court/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/two-men-found-guilty-of-raping-student-who-they-brought-back-to-flat-after-night-out-1.4074411

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/two-men-found-guilty-of-raping-student-who-came-back-to-their-flat-after-night-out-38667437.html

I can post more links if you want

Please do post more links.

When I say one source reported it at the time perhaps I made a mistake, have you notified the Gardai yet?.

Think some folk around here have ALOT of growing up to do.

What's interesting no one condemns the rape as he's a migrant. There is even one person here referring to it as alleged despite mountains of evidence against them and being found guilty they still say alleged!.

If he was Irish probably be 10 dedicated threads on this about it!.

ohnonotgmail · 12-02-2020 04:42PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Please do post more links.

When I say one source reported it at the time perhaps I made a mistake, have you notified the Gardai yet?.

Think some folk around here have ALOT of growing up to do.

What's interesting no one condemns the rape as he's a migrant. There is even one person here referring to it as alleged despite mountains of evidence against them and being found guilty they still say alleged!. Gurant

If he was Irish probably be 10 dedicated threads on this about it!.

the word alleged was used before you posted a link to the story.

Seanachai · 12-02-2020 04:49PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and yet immigration was only an issue for 1% of the electorate in the recent election.

No right wing alternative= No alternative

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