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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #4562
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,883 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    hmmm wrote: »
    Once only, so unless you have an infinite supply probably best to leave them for health workers or if you are coughing.

    The problem (apparently) is that once you use them outside they become potentially contaminated, so when you take them off you are touching the contaminated mask, and the last thing you want to do is put it back on. For many people also a proper well-fitting mask is uncomfortable, so they end up touching their face more than they would otherwise.

    If 60+% ethanol and 4+% Hydrogen peroxide will disinfect hands, I would have thought you could use those to disinfect a mask, in a pinch.


  • #4563
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    fritzelly wrote: »
    There's less confirmed because unless you show symptoms you are not classed as confirmed anymore
    This now makes a mockery of the suspected figure - what is the point unless they show symptoms
    If the numbers were not fudged before they are now totally fudged

    Tip of the iceberg!


  • #4564
    PhantomHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭PhantomHat


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Wouldn't matter as they would become clogged with dirt and other particulates
    Could you microwave?


  • #4565
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,662 ✭✭✭✭josip


    PhantomHat wrote: »
    Could you microwave?


    Not the ones with integrated metal nose clips


  • #4566
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    PhantomHat wrote: »
    Could you microwave?

    Would make the fibres expand - probably not ideal


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  • #4567
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Wouldn't matter as they would become clogged with dirt and other particulates
    I've used them for DIY stuff that involves dust. They make a big difference if they fit right. The difference between a cough and phlegm and not. Reuse them a couple of times in that context and still work well. Can be hard to get ones that fit right though.

    I have a couple of jobs I cant put off that will need a mask actually.


  • #4568
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »
    I've used them for DIY stuff that involves dust. They make a big difference if they fit right. The difference between a cough and phlegm and not. Reuse them a couple of times in that context and still work well. Can be hard to get ones that fit right though.

    I have a couple of jobs I cant put off that will need a mask actually.

    The dust ones are fine for things like that - not like you're gonna die if a bit gets thru
    Some of the 3M ones I think are good for 2 weeks?

    Seeing people walk around with surgical masks is hilarious - do they not know air comes in from the sides as well?


  • #4569
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    If you were following this guy

    https://cpj.org/2020/02/chinese-video-journalist-chen-qiushi-who-covered-c.php


  • #4570
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Some were saying that the mask would be more effective when coated with a strong saline solution as salt will kill the virus.


  • #4571
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Some were saying that the mask would be more effective when coated with a strong saline solution as salt will kill the virus.
    There is a new type of mask that is not on the market yet. It uses salt crystals that kill the virus instead of filtering it. I think it is probably very different to just putting salt water on a normal filtering mask.


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  • #4572
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    fritzelly wrote: »
    The dust ones are fine for things like that - not like you're gonna die if a bit gets thru
    Some of the 3M ones I think are good for 2 weeks?

    Seeing people walk around with surgical masks is hilarious - do they not know air comes in from the sides as well?
    Surgical masks are more to contain your own breath than filter what you inhale. If you are sick wearing one should help you avoid infecting people.


  • #4573
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »
    Surgical masks are more to contain your own breath than filter what you inhale. If you are sick wearing one should help you avoid infecting people.

    Yeah that was my point - they are pointless unless you are sick to stop infecting others. All the images coming out of China are showing the standard mask bar the odd person


  • #4574
    lolanacho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭lolanacho


    fritzelly wrote: »
    If you were following this guy

    https://cpj.org/2020/02/chinese-video-journalist-chen-qiushi-who-covered-c.php

    It wouldn’t surprise me if he’s found dead “by Coronavirus” and had to be cremated so no chance of an autopsy.


  • #4575
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,372 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    fritzelly wrote: »
    The dust ones are fine for things like that - not like you're gonna die if a bit gets thru
    Some of the 3M ones I think are good for 2 weeks?

    Seeing people walk around with surgical masks is hilarious - do they not know air comes in from the sides as well?

    It’s not actually hilarious because
    A
    it might not be perfect but it helps, and
    B
    it’s not funny that people are scared and clutching at straws... think about that phrase btw

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #4576
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Akrasia wrote: »
    It’s not actually hilarious because
    A
    it might not be perfect but it helps, and
    B
    it’s not funny that people are scared and clutching at straws... think about that phrase btw

    Hilarious is the wrong word - ludicrous may be better

    Anyway another 5 deaths outside the epicenter in China


  • #4577
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Are you seeing people wearing them in Ireland?
    You'd know that they have to wear them in public in China so I think you're talking about somewhere else?


  • #4578
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    The bit that bothers me is supply lines getting cut off meaning the holiday was extended. If this becomes a pandemic what kind of supply line will uk and Ireland have?


  • #4579
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    If you were an employee in a supermarket would you like to continue to work with the footfall in the door?


  • #4580
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0211/1114493-coronavirus/

    Situation is grave.


  • #4581
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭khalessi


    My biggest fear is not being able to.stop kids getting it.


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  • #4582
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    khalessi wrote: »
    My biggest fear is not being able to.stop kids getting it.

    If initial reports are correct children's bodies respond far better the virus.


  • #4583
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage





    We're f*cked


  • #4584
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    According to this - https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

    There is no cases in Africa yet, but for sure this is wrong, I can't imagine they will be well equipped to deal with it ...


  • #4585
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    According to this - https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

    There is no cases in Africa yet, but for sure this is wrong, I can't imagine they will be well equipped to deal with it ...

    It's definitely in countries within Africa.

    China has huge interests in Africa and so there is a lot of back and forth travel.


  • #4586
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    tuxy wrote: »
    If initial reports are correct children's bodies respond far better the virus.

    This is good to hear, it's the main thing that worries me is my kids getting it, they don't have a clue at school how to protect themselves, I'm not too worried about myself....


  • #4587
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    The bit that bothers me is supply lines getting cut off meaning the holiday was extended. If this becomes a pandemic what kind of supply line will uk and Ireland have?

    Ireland is rated as being one of the most food secure nations in the world, we produce 3 to 4 times more food than we need so we can get by if we need to, the UK not so much.


  • #4588
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,283 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Ireland is rated as being one of the most food secure nations in the world, we produce 3 to 4 times more food than we need so we can get by if we need to, the UK not so much.

    Let's hope suppliers and supermarkets have stockpiles of packaging leftover from no deal Brexit planning though as getting the stuff onto shelves could be an issue...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #4589
    marvin80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭marvin80


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    It seems people are panicking about people panicking without evidence. It's a discussion thread, posting stuff (even some of the bat-**** crazy stuff that I'm not interested in) doesn't equate to panicking. I think we're all roughly of similar intelligence and can use our noggins.

    Does the below equate to panicking or is it more hysteria?
    BanditLuke wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0211/1114493-coronavirus/

    Situation is grave.
    Hector Savage wrote: »



    We're f*cked


  • #4590
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/11/coronavirus-expert-warns-infection-could-reach-60-of-worlds-population

    60% of Global Pop. could be infected ? ! never expected such alarmist headlines from the Guardian...


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  • #4591
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    What's the craic with this 'super spreader'? For all we know the 4 of them in the chalet were kissing the face off each other or playing drinking games from the one glass etc.


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