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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #3242
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    The recent chart showing 27.4k from 20mins ago is already out of date, and the 5th of Feb isn't technically fully over yet.

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  • #3243
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    The statistics are for the day before so it is 27k on the 4th of feb


  • #3244
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,465 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Motherof123 wrote: »
    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Coronavirus-fears-at-Cork-University-Hospital-Young-male-is-put-in-isolation-after-showing-symptoms-of-the-deadly-virus-d50a881f-d786-43d6-9e99-0cdbba02739b-ds


    We'll have to do a Wuhan on Cork.


  • #3245
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


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  • #3246
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    The Latest updates from the Guardian.

    Small Canada town prepares for the arrival of 200 Coronavirus evacuees, among other stories.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/feb/06/coronavirus-live-updates-in-china-wuhan-coronaviruses-outbreak-death-toll-latest-update-news

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • #3247
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    The Latest updates from the Guardian.
    Small Canada town prepares for the arrival of 200 Coronavirus evacuees, among other stories.
    Usually best to avoid the smaller niche minority left-media sources such as the Guardian.

    Best source for 'flu news' would be a subject multi-source int'l aggregator e.g.
    https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Hot+Topics/China+Coronavirus+Outbreak?type=ln

    Be aware though the 'most read' category are often the more dramatic or conspiracy type articles, simply as they make better headlines or click bait, and sell newspapers quicker at the stands. Still plenty to choose from, and updates roll in every 5mins.


  • #3248
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #3249
    joseywhales
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,423 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »
    Did they say they had coronavirus though - or even if it was suspected?

    I was in isolation with my wife in the maternity hospital here because of flu. Pregnant women getting sick is generally more serious

    One pregnant lady isolated in a hospital here in tamil nadu for testing. Lot of people starting to wear masks around now. In fairness there is some serious lag between live infection numbers and the reality. If she is tested, which may take all day, found positive, it would probably be reported 48 hours after presenting, I don't really know the mechanism.


  • #3250
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,465 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Nanchang becomes the latest large Chinese city to introduce severe restrictions on movement. One member of each family must be nominated to leave their homes for goods once every two days.


  • #3251
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    joseywhales wrote: »
    One pregnant lady isolated in a hospital here in tamil nadu for testing. Lot of people starting to wear masks around now. In fairness there is some serious lag between live infection numbers and the reality. If she is tested, which may take all day, found positive, it would probably be reported 48 hours after presenting, I don't really know the mechanism.

    Yea assuming the first test is positive, earlier reports were showing it was taking 4 tests on some people to show up.


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  • #3252
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    I wonder if Ireland can close its borders to other EU states in the event of the virus taking hold in Europe?

    Free travel between states is part of the EU concept. We are not part of the Schengen area, so we still operate border checks, but that doesn't mean we can turn away other EU citizens.

    I wonder how political parties might act in response to an outbreak in general. So sudden that I doubt any of them have any official position. I'd still like to hear the leaders being asked though.


  • #3253
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    wakka12 wrote: »
    80% over 60, wow, and with diseases, why is China going so ape**** over this disease if it is kills mostly those who are already suspectible to death from seasonal flu.

    :confused: So old folk are???


  • #3254
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    We can't close our borders to afghan, somali, albanian, georgian, pakastani, chinese or a host of other illegal migrants. How do you expect to close to legal visitors

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • #3255
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Fine Gael see a solution to the pension crisis.
    Fianna Fail pay private developers 13 billion for a hospital made of shipping containers that is in fact never built.


  • #3256
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://mobile.twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1225267874303967232

    Lab with the ability to diagnose 10,000 tests a day just built


  • #3257
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    tonysopprano wrote: »
    We can't close our borders to afghan, somali, albanian, georgian, pakastani, chinese or a host of other illegal migrants. How do you expect to close to legal visitors

    Well that’s just nonsense.


  • #3258
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Way back in 1665 in a village called Eyam in Derbyshire , England, a visitor brough plague in; fleas on dirty cloth.

    The village put itself into total quarantine to avoid spreading a lethal disease, the Great Plague, to the rest of the country, No one left and many died by staying, as they were not then infected but could have spread it

    A poignant article / BBC programme. " Eyam plague; the village of the damned"

    This situation we have now reminded me of this. And shocking figures re Plague still killing folk.


  • #3259
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »
    Fine Gael see a solution to the pension crisis.
    Fianna Fail pay private developers 13 billion for a hospital made of shipping containers that is in fact never built.


    Labour set up a quango for coronavirus advocacy while at the same time encouraging its spread to keep the quango going. Give all their union mates jobs on the executive at 100k.



    Greens want compostible body bags, and propose a tax on cremation.


    SocDems claim the virus is racist as the name sounds vaguely Mexican, will form Oireachtas committee on proposed name change. Also considering a subsidized scheme to infect more Irish people as Asians are disproportionately affected.



    All senior Sinn Fein members contracted the virus but are reported to be receiving excellent care in Havana, Cuba. Mary Lou claims she is in Templeouge at a salsa themed charity quiz via Skype call to a journalist.


  • #3260
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    So now we have suspected cases in Dublin, Kerry and Cork

    Dublin
    A Chinese man put in isolation in St James's Hospital in Dublin on Tuesday for the disease is also continuing to be tested.

    Kerry
    On Wednesday there was also fears of a suspected case in Kerry, it’s understood a patient is being treated for breathing difficulties at University Hospital Kerry in Tralee.

    The woman, who is understood to be of Chinese origin, may have been in contact with people who recently travelled from her home country.

    Cork
    A young man has been placed in isolation at Cork University Hospital with a suspected case of the killer coronavirus.

    The man, who is believed to be in his 20s, displayed symptoms of the disease after recently returning from China.

    All listed in the Mirror.ie
    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/young-man-put-isolation-suspected-21440956


  • #3261
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,593 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Fire them into the sea!


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  • #3262
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Even assuming reported figures are honest and accurate, the actual number infected is likely to be four times the number of confirmed cases. This is because of the fate of spread and the time between infection and confirmed diagnosis.

    On the other hand, the same lag will be present between successful counter-measures and seeing a slowdown in the numbers of new confirmed diagnoses.


  • #3263
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,109 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »
    Even assuming reported figures are honest and accurate

    I think they are an accurate count of the number dead who tested positive for coronavirus. I don't think they are honest in that we need to see the numbers of deaths for pneumonia and related respiratory conditions versus previous years.

    I think the reported deaths are just the tip of the iceberg - I'm basing that on the reports coming out of China, the reaction of the Chinese and Hong Kong authorities, and the UK and other western governments.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #3264
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    I think they are an accurate count of the number dead who tested positive for coronavirus. I don't think they are honest in that we need to see the numbers of deaths for pneumonia and related respiratory conditions versus previous years.

    I think the reported deaths are just the tip of the iceberg - I'm basing that on the reports coming out of China, the reaction of the Chinese and Hong Kong authorities, and the UK and other western governments.

    Do you not think its odd that the Total Death figures work out at 2% in relation to the Total Confirmed every day +/- 0.05?


  • #3265
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    21/01/2020 22/01/2020 23/01/2020 24/01/2020 25/01/2020 26/01/2020 27/01/2020 28/01/2020 29/01/2020 30/01/2020 31/01/2020 01/02/2020 02/02/2020 03/02/2020 04/02/2020 05/02/2020
    Confirmed 446 579 844 1312 2015 2801 4579 6061 7816 9821 11948 14551 17387 20626 24553 28229
    Deaths 6 8 14 25 40 57 64 87 105 213 259 304 362 426 492 565
    % Death 1.35% 1.38% 1.66% 1.91% 1.99% 2.03% 1.40% 1.44% 1.34% 2.17% 2.17% 2.09% 2.08% 2.07% 2.00% 2.00%


  • #3266
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Surely it has to be positive that we aren't seeing huge growth in numbers so far out side of China?


  • #3267
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    21/01/2020 22/01/2020 23/01/2020 24/01/2020 25/01/2020 26/01/2020 27/01/2020 28/01/2020 29/01/2020 30/01/2020 31/01/2020 01/02/2020 02/02/2020 03/02/2020 04/02/2020 05/02/2020
    Confirmed 446 579 844 1312 2015 2801 4579 6061 7816 9821 11948 14551 17387 20626 24553 28229
    Deaths 6 8 14 25 40 57 64 87 105 213 259 304 362 426 492 565
    % Death 1.35% 1.38% 1.66% 1.91% 1.99% 2.03% 1.40% 1.44% 1.34% 2.17% 2.17% 2.09% 2.08% 2.07% 2.00% 2.00%

    Isn't the argument that the confirmed case number is limited by the number of tests they are doing? If they could test more, the death % would be lower.


  • #3268
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    pc7 wrote: »
    Surely it has to be positive that we aren't seeing huge growth in numbers so far out side of China?

    Positive, so far.. China had a pretty big headstart on this since early December. We're only what, two/three weeks into cases outside of China?


  • #3269
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,109 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Do you not think its odd that the Total Death figures work out at 2% in relation to the Total Confirmed every day +/- 0.05?

    I do now...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #3270
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I don't think we can have particular confidence that they are declaring the cause of death correctly. Apparently people are being admitted to hospitals ill, not being tested due to lack of kits, and when they are passed the cause of death is attributed to a secondary cause like pnuemonia.


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  • #3271
    car_radio19834
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭car_radio19834


    This is our chance to get rid of Cork.


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