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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #3212
    sweetie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,797 ✭✭✭sweetie


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Your doctor was selling you stuff?

    It was an adverts deal, when I met her near her work I mentioned the virus, and she said there was a person in isolation there.

    Edit: may have been referring to this but I took it as currently;

    https://www.newstalk.com/news/man-observation-dublin-hospital-suspected-coronavirus-960696


  • #3213
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    sweetie wrote: »
    It was an adverts deal, when I met her near her work I mentioned the virus, and she said there was a person in isolation there.

    Ag right so, a random stranger.


  • #3214
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    sweetie wrote: »
    It was an adverts deal, when I met her near her work I mentioned the virus, and she said there was a person in isolation there.

    Edit: may have been referring to this but I took it as currently;

    https://www.newstalk.com/news/man-observation-dublin-hospital-suspected-coronavirus-960696

    Were you buying black market face masks?


  • #3215
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    sweetie wrote: »
    It was an adverts deal, when I met her near her work I mentioned the virus, and she said there was a person in isolation there.

    Edit: may have been referring to this but I took it as currently;

    https://www.newstalk.com/news/man-observation-dublin-hospital-suspected-coronavirus-960696

    Is the Mater and St James the same hospital, or is that two unconfirmed in Dublin.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #3216
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Is the Mater and St James the same hospital, or is that two unconfirmed in Dublin.

    Separate.


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  • #3217
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's no signs of this virus in James.


  • #3218
    laurah591
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    Any word on the suspected St James case.... that's over 24 hours now?


  • #3219
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    With it approaching the month mark now since the first death by coronavirus surely there must be a better idea of how dangerous it is.
    Apparently China expereince about 92,000 deaths in a winter season due to flu. Most deaths occur in November, December, Jan, Feb, March. So you'd expect about 18400 deaths across mainland china from flu per winter month. Hubei is 60 million people which is 4% of China's population. Youd expect roughly 736 deaths in HUbei from seasonal flu this month. Its 4 days off a month, since the first death from coronavirus occurred, and 549 have died. Granted it will probably be about another 60 or so deaths a day for these lasy 4 days so it will probably total about 780 . Almost the exact same as seasonal flu. I suppose you've to take into account that flu may have infected far more people though


  • #3220
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,774 ✭✭✭circadian


    I think it's the liklihood of complications with this vs flu is the difference. It appears to be moving more easily than the flu and I wonder when herd immunity will begin to slow the movement. It certainly appears to be much more potent amongst over 60's and since it's a complete unknown then it'll be tracked much more keenly than seasonal flu.


  • #3221
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,364 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Hey President XI


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  • #3222
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    car_radio19834 wrote: »
    And they'll get it too. Mad how billions just appears for things like fires and this.

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1225081513307447301

    Mad that amount is still a fraction of our children's hospital.


  • #3223
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    sweetie wrote: »
    Spoke to a doctor from the Mater tonight who said they had a patient in isolation. Just mentioned in passing as I was buying an item from her.
    Did they say they had coronavirus though - or even if it was suspected?

    I was in isolation with my wife in the maternity hospital here because of flu. Pregnant women getting sick is generally more serious


  • #3224
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    wakka12 wrote: »
    With it approaching the month mark now since the first death by coronavirus surely there must be a better idea of how dangerous it is.
    Apparently China expereince about 92,000 deaths in a winter season due to flu. Most deaths occur in November, December, Jan, Feb, March. So you'd expect about 18400 deaths across mainland china from flu per winter month. Hubei is 60 million people which is 4% of China's population. Youd expect roughly 736 deaths in HUbei from seasonal flu this month. Its 4 days off a month, since the first death from coronavirus occurred, and 549 have died. Granted it will probably be about another 60 or so deaths a day for these lasy 4 days so it will probably total about 780 . Almost the exact same as seasonal flu. I suppose you've to take into account that flu may have infected far more people though


    I'm curious where you got those figures. Eh, I imagine a new virus will always cause more deaths in the beginning.



    So, what's going on with the created anxiety in the media? It's good to play it safe, but there has been some exagerrated information. I imaigne it's just for money in contrary to all my theories tbh.


  • #3225
    car_radio19834
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭car_radio19834


    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1225188709458489345


  • #3226
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Two cases in Hong Kong in critical condition
    Three family members who didnt recently visit mainland China have also been infected
    https://www.thestandard.com.hk/section-news/section/11/216044/Family-of-three-with-no-travel-history-infected

    I would imagine Hong Kong is one place that is bound to become full scale epidemic very soon, no containing something in a population that dense


    Good timing with how Hong Kong wasn't screening patients. Conspiracy theories aside, there is something very off that such a city wasn't screening arrivals.


  • #3227
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    creditcarder wrote: »
    I'm curious where you got those figures. Eh, I imagine a new virus will always cause more deaths in the beginning.



    So, what's going on with the created anxiety in the media? It's good to play it safe, but there has been some exagerrated information. I imaigne it's just for money in contrary to all my theories tbh.

    Which figures>? Somebody posted that 92,000 deaths occur from flu in China a while back, which I was surprised by, they also posted a link to a source about it.


  • #3228
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Which figures>? Somebody posted that 92,000 deaths occur from flu in China a while back, which I was surprised by, they also posted a link to a source about it.


    That is strange. I thought it was something absurd like 82 :P



    Honestly, I think we can multiply any official flue figure by at least ten due to all the factors listed in this debacle and just local officials not wanting to give a bad name.


  • #3229
    sweetie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,797 ✭✭✭sweetie


    Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »
    Did they say they had coronavirus though - or even if it was suspected?

    I was in isolation with my wife in the maternity hospital here because of flu. Pregnant women getting sick is generally more serious

    When she couldn't meet me yesterday due to her shift, today in passing I said 'this coronavirus is getting worrying, what do you think?' and she said something like 'we have someone in isolation in the mater.' I assumed it was the case I'd heard mentioned but when I checked this thread I see that case is in James's. So possibly suspected but probably nothing to it, hopefully.


  • #3230
    daheff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,981 ✭✭✭daheff


    Dante7 wrote: »
    Completely hypothetical, but if a virus was engineered to be mainly Chinese race specific, decimating the elderly, the Chinese leadership would be the main suspects..

    I was thinking about this possibility....and completely unfounded and 100% speculation...thought to myself, what if this is a disease they are engineering to release in Hong Kong...then come to the rescue with an engineered cure? HK people are then so thankful they let China take over??

    But the virus escaped early and they haven't fully engineered it and the cure...so it's now running amok.


  • #3231
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    daheff wrote: »
    I was thinking about this possibility....and completely unfounded and 100% speculation...thought to myself, what if this is a disease they are engineering to release in Hong Kong...then come to the rescue with an engineered cure? HK people are then so thankful they let China take over??

    But the virus escaped early and they haven't fully engineered it and the cure...so it's now running amok.
    Completely hypothetical, but what if extra terrestrial Godzilla monkeys were experimenting on us, and then somebody found out the truth and the CIA psychics something something.


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  • #3232
    macapaca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ✭macapaca


    Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »
    Completely hypothetical, but what if extra terrestrial Godzilla monkeys were experimenting on us, and then somebody found out the truth and the CIA psychics something something.

    It's time to drop the nukes


  • #3233
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »
    Completely hypothetical, but what if extra terrestrial Godzilla monkeys were experimenting on us, and then somebody found out the truth and the CIA psychics something something.


    CT aside, having the virus in Hong Kong would suit China quite well, and they are not screening people coming in.



    I think it's just good timing for the CCP


  • #3234
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Which figures>? Somebody posted that 92,000 deaths occur from flu in China a while back, which I was surprised by, they also posted a link to a source about it.
    creditcarder wrote: »
    CT aside, having the virus in Hong Kong would suit China quite well, and they are not screening people coming in.



    I think it's just good timing for the CCP

    Just saw this on twitter: The director of Wuhan Disease Control and Prevention Center stated in public on Jan.19, 2020 that no related cases have been found among close contacts and that the new coronavirus is not highly infectious
    The CCP has been concealing the epidemic all the time

    I wonder if they couldn't detect it? 2 week incubation? Or hiding figures?


    Video on this ladies tweets:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/jenniferatntd


  • #3235
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    There are currently 27,602 confirmed cases worldwide, including 564 fatalities.

    28,276 confirmed cases worldwide, including 565 fatalities...numbers just in now. Further jump in confirmed, all in the space of an hour or so.


  • #3236
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    Curious about the Yokohama issue. I mean how long was the carrier on the boat for vs how many people are infected?



    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200205/k10012273171000.html


    It seems quite small imo.


  • #3237
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    10 more people on the boat in Japan have been diagnosed, total 20 now. Will be a very interesting sample study of the effects, all infected roughly the same time


  • #3238
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    wakka12 wrote: »
    10 more people on the boat in Japan have been diagnosed, total 20 now. Will be a very interesting sample study of the effects, all infected roughly the same time


    Imo, it's not looking too bad. The tests started on Monday, the dude got off maybe a few days ago and had to wait to be tested, so it doesn't seem to be quite as spreadable as people are saying and I kind of wonder if it spreadable asympoteticlly.


  • #3239
    Motherof123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Motherof123


    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Coronavirus-fears-at-Cork-University-Hospital-Young-male-is-put-in-isolation-after-showing-symptoms-of-the-deadly-virus-d50a881f-d786-43d6-9e99-0cdbba02739b-ds


  • #3240
    Motherof123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Motherof123


    Coronavirus fears at Cork University Hospital; Young male is put in isolation after showing symptoms of the deadly virus


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  • #3241
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    creditcarder wrote: »
    Imo, it's not looking too bad. The tests started on Monday, the dude got off maybe a few days ago and had to wait to be tested, so it doesn't seem to be quite as spreadable as people are saying and I kind of wonder if it spreadable asympoteticlly.

    How does 1 person infecting (at least, so far) 20 others not seem spreadable??


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