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Importing from the UK - definitive guide (Q&A)

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  • #9752
    rabbitinlights
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    I'd highly recommend using RAC to inspect any car - it's not cheap but they are very good, you normally get a verbal report the day of inspection and then a detailed written one 24hours later.


  • #9753
    Debub
    Registered Users Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Debub


    LillySV wrote: »
    I read somewhere before that the rac are best for the checks , AA aren’t as good .... could anyone clarify if this is the case?


    DEKRA is quite good too


  • #9754
    Amouar
    Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Amouar


    wassie wrote: »
    The Pound will drop at 11.27am on 25th Feb by 15%. :P

    And anyone (including me) who says otherwise is simply guessing. Sterling has been trading around its highest levels in 2 years over the last couple of months, despite uncertainty with Brexit and many forecasting a drop over the last year in this forum.



    Agreed. I never put deposits - If you don't buy the car your going to have a hard time getting your cash back. Dealer knows your from over the water and your probably going to head back home soon enough. If you do, get it in writing from them that if for any reason you decide not to purchase, you unequivocally get your deposit back. Otherwise its your word against theirs on the terms of a refund.

    You can always go for a Visa/MC charge back if the dealer doesn't want to refund the deposit even if they started that it was fully refundable.


  • #9755
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    The_Fitz wrote: »
    How do you get a copy certified? Photocopy and walk into a gardai station?

    My MOT cert was a photocopy, I read that the VRT office may ask for it to be certified by the gardai. I didn't want any excuses for it not to be accepted so I got it certified in a gardai station. I brought in my copy and had the MOT website up on my phone. Showed the garda the corresponding cert numbers and he was happy to sign and stamp it.


  • #9756
    Mc Love
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    rabbitinlights wrote: »
    I'd highly recommend using RAC to inspect any car - it's not cheap but they are very good, you normally get a verbal report the day of inspection and then a detailed written one 24hours later.

    I've had AA before and thought they were very thorough


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  • #9757
    Debub
    Registered Users Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Debub


    Debub wrote: »
    DEKRA is quite good too


    I think that AA in UK actually get the inspection done by DEKRA


  • #9758
    LillySV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭LillySV


    rabbitinlights wrote: »
    I'd highly recommend using RAC to inspect any car - it's not cheap but they are very good, you normally get a verbal report the day of inspection and then a detailed written one 24hours later.

    What kind of money are they ? Just say I went over to U.K. to just check out cars and came across one I liked in a dealership. Could I ring rac there and then to get them to come or should I have it arranged afew days in advance ?

    Another thing ... do they guarantee their car check in any way?


  • #9759
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    You have to book an inspection in advance as they may not have an inspector in the area at the time. You might also need to reserve the car otherwise it could be sod or moved to another location down the country before the inspector turns up, as a lot of the big car dealers have multiple dealerships around the country and they move cars around and even off the service of moving it to one of their other branches that's closer to a buyer for a fee.


  • #9760
    crystalbrite
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭crystalbrite


    Sterling price starting to drop again ever so slightly. 1.19 -> 1.17 :)


  • #9761
    shirazhyder84
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭shirazhyder84


    Imported a car yesterday and got it VRTd today. As expected, no VAT or customs duty on importing the car.


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  • #9762
    The Mulk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭The Mulk


    shirazhyder84 wrote: »
    Imported a car yesterday and got it VRTd today. As expected, no VAT or customs duty on importing the car.

    Excellent,well done. Good news for the rest of us, any issues around the MOT or do you not need an NCT at the moment?


  • #9763
    michellie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    MOTs can be exchanged for NCT cert until the transition period is over


  • #9764
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,462 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I see something confusing on the vrt calculator.
    They now have an option for 530E on the drop down menu as opposed to picking 530 and then later picking plug in hybrid in next menu.
    Anyway, they only have an se option if you go that way but the figures dont appear to add up. It's 14 percent of 26600 less 2250 for a 2018 model yet this is not the figure they produce.
    Figures still as expected if picking 530 first as opposed to 530E
    This makes things a bit of of a lottery.


  • #9765
    11wingnut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭11wingnut


    I forgot my vasoline this morning . 2016 v40 web site not yet updated for nox tax .. more than the vrt.. has anyone appealed this year ?


  • #9766
    mgn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    11wingnut wrote: »
    I forgot my vasoline this morning . 2016 v40 web site not yet updated for nox tax .. more than the vrt.. has anyone appealed this year ?

    You should be okay with a 2016 car, the max you can be charged for a car that year is €600 NOX tax.


  • #9767
    11wingnut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭11wingnut


    way more than that ..total 4818


  • #9768
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭User1998


    Where are you getting that figure from? Do you have the v5 logbook?

    I’m looking at a 2016 Volvo V40 2.0 D3 150 R Design Plus with Nox emissions of 0.77 which is €555.


  • #9769
    11wingnut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭11wingnut


    paid it today on line says about 2600.. i could live with that ,, appointment this morning they tell me that that does not include nox so total 4818


  • #9770
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭User1998


    Ouch.. I would have thought it would be way lower being a 2016. A few posters have said the max is €600 for euro 6 and I thought that was true as well (.80mg of Nox = €600)

    I was even looking at a 2015 Diesel V40 that had only €555 worth of Nox.

    If you purchased the car or booked the VRT appointment before January you’d have a chance at appealing it but I doubt you booked/purchased that long ago? Maybe they made a mistake and gave you the wrong Nox figures?


  • #9771
    11wingnut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭11wingnut


    Note

    The NOx charge is not currently included on the VRT calculator. This means that the estimate presented by the calculator will not be the final amount due. Customers can determine the potential NOx levy for their vehicle by using this calculator. This will provide an estimate of the charge payable.

    The attached spreadsheet may assist to identify your vehicle with its estimated NOx emissions value.

    hidden in revenue site . i purchased in november brought in in jan got screwed today.


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  • #9772
    kelzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭kelzer


    Quick questions - is it ok to present car to VRT with the V5c document containing previous owner's name? Also ok to detach section 5 (permanent export) and present to VRT without that section? Thanks


  • #9773
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭User1998


    Yes and yes


  • #9774
    CPTM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭CPTM


    The dealer in the UK gave me a photocopy of the log book only and sent everything else off to the DVLA. I found out the hard way that photocopies arent accepted here. The dealer doesn't want to hear anything, neither does the DVLA. The Irish authorities wont help. So I have a car I can't register, sell, or scrap because I dont have the log book. The DVLA are saying that because the car is marked as exported on their side, I need to contact the authorities in Ireland for assistance.

    If anyone knows how to fix this, it would be greatly appreciated. I need a family car (baby due in April), so I can't keep it here in my driveway but I'm aware I can't just abandon it somewhere.


  • #9775
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Read this thread and see if it's similar to your problem:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058000698

    The dealer should be helping you as they didn't follow the proper procedure from the DVLA around selling a car to someone who is permanently exporting it. Alas they know it's very unlikely you will turn up at their door bugging them to fix the problem so it's easy for them to fob you off.


  • #9776
    Isambard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    in short, you will need to find an address in the UK and re-register your car (as if you've imported it to the UK) in the UK in your name or a friends and then you'll get a V5C which you can use to re-register it in Ireland,. As it's marked "exported" there doesn't seem to be any other way around this.


  • #9777
    11wingnut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭11wingnut


    Isambard wrote: »
    in short, you will need to find an address in the UK and re-register your car (as if you've imported it to the UK) in the UK in your name or a friends and then you'll get a V5C which you can use to re-register it in Ireland,. As it's marked "exported" there doesn't seem to be any other way around this.

    I done this, a paperwork exercise. they will not need to inspect car but reserve the right to.


  • #9778
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    CPTM wrote: »
    The dealer in the UK gave me a photocopy of the log book only and sent everything else off to the DVLA. I found out the hard way that photocopies arent accepted here. The dealer doesn't want to hear anything, neither does the DVLA. The Irish authorities wont help. So I have a car I can't register, sell, or scrap because I dont have the log book. The DVLA are saying that because the car is marked as exported on their side, I need to contact the authorities in Ireland for assistance.

    If anyone knows how to fix this, it would be greatly appreciated. I need a family car (baby due in April), so I can't keep it here in my driveway but I'm aware I can't just abandon it somewhere.


    When did it happen? Dealer gave me the little slip of paper, not the full logbook. Luckily the rest of the form was sent to me from the DVLA saying the dealer should have gave me this. I think it's luck of the draw, depends on who in the DVLA's desk it lands on. They send it to me in Ireland so it saved me a lot of hassle. DVLA on the phone weren't helpful.
    Took about 4 weeks for the DVLA to send me the form


  • #9779
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Hi there.

    Set up my own company just after Christmas, in the construction game. Based in North Dublin/Meath.

    My other half has a small ford fiesta 2009 and I drive a VW Golf MK6 2011. Our plan would be to sell both, buy one good/nice car out of our own money- she would drive to work, maybe an Audi or something, then I'd buy a commercial van/car type thing (a VW Golf with only 2 seats so it qualifies as commercial would be ideal) and buy it through the company for VAT reasons etc. This would probably be on a lease plan most likely.

    Just posting on here for any advice on certain dealerships or good HP/PCP/Leasing plans you might know of around the country.

    I'm originally a Tyrone man, living in dublin a couple of years now - my general perception is that you don't buy a car in Ireland - they're just too dear compared with the choice and value you get in England - I'd love it if someone proved me wrong on here.

    I always bought my cars in the past privately in england, would fly over, purchase and drive home. I took a brand new 2.0 GTD Golf Mk7 in 2016 on a 2 year lease with a VW Dealer in the north - it was £250 a month, mileage upto 16,000 per year, all services etc covered, peanuts.

    I can't find anything like that down here, looked at Joe Duffy etc and the prices for leasing aren't near wise at all.

    Am I better off going to the UK again and buying a vehicle, then paying the VRT transferring it over? Or is there value down here... I'm aware I can apply for exemption of VRT once only when transferring UK plates to ROI.

    Thanks in advance!!


  • #9780
    Isambard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    Cienciano wrote: »
    When did it happen? Dealer gave me the little slip of paper, not the full logbook. Luckily the rest of the form was sent to me from the DVLA saying the dealer should have gave me this. I think it's luck of the draw, depends on who in the DVLA's desk it lands on. They send it to me in Ireland so it saved me a lot of hassle. DVLA on the phone weren't helpful.
    Took about 4 weeks for the DVLA to send me the form

    you were lucky, but if it had already been marked exported, you'd have had a a world of pain.


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  • #9781
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Isambard wrote: »
    you were lucky, but if it had already been marked exported, you'd have had a a world of pain.

    It had been. DVLA said the I need the logbook to give to the Irish authorities in the cover letter.
    Lucky, I rang the DVLA when I found out I had the wrong document and was told the story about registering in the UK again and presenting the car for inspection. Would have been a nightmare


  • #9782
    Isambard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    It doesn't matter what it's been marked if they'll play ball and post you the V5C like that.congrats!


  • #9783
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Isambard wrote: »
    It doesn't matter what it's been marked if they'll play ball and post you the V5C like that.congrats!

    Yeah, I literally think I was just lucky with whoever's desk it fell onto that morning.


  • #9784
    amf78
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭amf78


    Looking to buy a car from England.
    Called a few dealers, and was told by some of them it's not possible as I would need to have a UK address to register the car to.
    I find this claim questionable given the number of people importing cars from UK over the years... does everybody in Ireland have friends/relatives in the UK (or owns a shell company based there)?
    Even I know there's a section in the V5C for permanent exports, and if I'm not mistaken the new format allows for non-UK registration addresses in the new owner section as well.
    I probably should call DVLA to clarify but in the meantime, am I missing something here? Did the legislation change recently?


  • #9785
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Plenty of dealers in the UK who sell to Irish customers, no need to be wasting time with clowns who don't want your money or are ignorant of how to sell a car for permanent export.


  • #9786
    amf78
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭amf78


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Plenty of dealers in the UK who sell to Irish customers, no need to be wasting time with clowns who don't want your money or are ignorant of how to sell a car for permanent export.

    I see. I just wouldn't have expected BMW official dealers to be clowns. I wanted approved used for a number of reasons (mainly to avoid the separate inspection) but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.


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  • #9787
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It's very possible they are supplying BMW dealers here with used stock so won't sell to Irish customers as it harms their trade here. Mercedes had similar policies. Try another main dealer in another part of the country as not all of them have that policy.


  • #9788
    amf78
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭amf78


    bazz26 wrote: »
    It's very possible they are supplying BMW dealers here with used stock so won't sell to Irish customers as it harms their trade here. Mercedes had similar policies. Try another main dealer in another part of the country as not all of them have that policy.
    I'm surprised they have a legal basis for that. Then again when you're BMW, probably you don't have to worry much about legal action.


  • #9789
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The problem would be proving it, it's a gentleman's agreement no doubt.


  • #9790
    amf78
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭amf78


    bazz26 wrote: »
    The problem would be proving it, it's a gentleman's agreement no doubt.

    You mean having proof that they refuse to sell? Well sure if they put it in an email or a chat session on their website, that would be proof, wouldn't it?


  • #9791
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Proving that they are not selling to you because of protectionism - ie damaging Irish BMW dealers trade over here. They can have all sorts of company policies around needing a UK address or UK driver's license to cover them. The UK has left the EU so importing will not be attractive this time next year, so best move on and don't bother wasting your time and effort on something that you simply won't get any satisfaction on.


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  • #9792
    LillySV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭LillySV


    bazz26 wrote: »
    It's very possible they are supplying BMW dealers here with used stock so won't sell to Irish customers as it harms their trade here. Mercedes had similar policies. Try another main dealer in another part of the country as not all of them have that policy.

    Exactly , Although I can say I’ve never seen a uk reg car in my local Bmw garage... probably cause they have enough sense to take off plates before it gets there ... the local Audi and Mercedes garages full of uk plate cars....pure laugh considering all the charges the govt inflicting on us to stop us buying abroad... then we go by off our dealers here and end up just paying more for a car from abroad!


  • #9793
    LillySV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭LillySV


    amf78 wrote: »
    I see. I just wouldn't have expected BMW official dealers to be clowns. I wanted approved used for a number of reasons (mainly to avoid the separate inspection) but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

    What dealer was it ? I know I had made enquiries with stratstone Bmw previously and they were all for trade with me


  • #9794
    Mc Love
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    LillySV wrote: »
    Exactly , Although I can say I’ve never seen a uk reg car in my local Bmw garage... probably cause they have enough sense to take off plates before it gets there ... the local Audi and Mercedes garages full of uk plate cars....pure laugh considering all the charges the govt inflicting on us to stop us buying abroad... then we go by off our dealers here and end up just paying more for a car from abroad!

    You can usually tell by the logbook if you get that far.


  • #9795
    LillySV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭LillySV


    Mc Love wrote: »
    You can usually tell by the logbook if you get that far.


    At the current rates... I can’t see me going near any logbooks :)


  • #9796
    Debub
    Registered Users Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Debub


    Hi - I was looking at used BMW i3 and Nissan Leaf from the UK. The VRT calculator shows €0 for both these cars (and I fairly certain that they don't have any Nox emissions), so the final value if I import them will only be the Pound to Euro conversion - am I correct in thinking that?
    thanks


  • #9797
    amf78
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭amf78


    LillySV wrote: »
    What dealer was it ? I know I had made enquiries with stratstone Bmw previously and they were all for trade with me

    Marshall Scunthorpe
    So far the only ones to turn me down (plus one customer service guy).
    I'm in touch with Stratstone, so far they haven't said anything but we'll see...


  • #9798
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,217 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Debub wrote: »
    Hi - I was looking at used BMW i3 and Nissan Leaf from the UK. The VRT calculator shows €0 for both these cars (and I fairly certain that they don't have any Nox emissions), so the final value if I import them will only be the Pound to Euro conversion - am I correct in thinking that?
    thanks
    Yup


  • #9799
    Brianmwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭Brianmwalker


    How are people transferring the cash to the dealer wehen buying in the UK? Change cash to sterling? Currency fair?


  • #9800
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Read back a few pages of this thread as it's discussed regularly.


  • #9801
    heffo500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭heffo500


    Brianmwalker wrote: »
    How are people transferring the cash to the dealer wehen buying in the UK? Change cash to sterling? Currency fair?

    I used Revolut Premium, exchanged the money in advance. Paid to their account while at the dealership. It took about 40 min to hit their account. My girlfriend bought a car up the north last week and her transfer only took 10 min.

    I would aim to collect the car always on a Thursday, that if it doesn't hit the account till the next day at the least next day is a business day.

    Also on that I would recommend buying the flexible ferry ticket, that if you have to stay the night you can easily change ferry. Not a bad idea to look at hotels and prices too just in case.


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