Grand Canal Cycle Path - Be Careful

Nika Bolokov wrote: »

Havnt heard of any incidents in a while.

Is anyone still using it ? Is it safe again ?

Apart from the woman knocked down by the scrambler the other day, haven’t heard much.

tnegun wrote: »

Yes still using it stayed away for a about a week when it escalated in October/November. Still have the odd day with the same gang hassling cyclists but thankfully its has just been posturing. I would still tell anyone going past the 9th lock to Lucan after 2pm they do so at their own risk however.

I have started to come off it, and cycle up the ninth lock road, it's actually not bad once you get on the bike path.

The problem with prison is that it costs a lot. We should only be using it as a last resort. Prior to that my concern is that these people are not taught at an early age that this kind of behaviour is not acceptable. They see enough of it around them growing up that is unchallenged and can also attract status among some in their communities. I think we have to address it there first. Stop allowing people go around their communities shouting, disrespecting other people, using drugs and committing petty crime, littering / dumping, vandalizing, bullying / throwing their weight around against neighbours. Stop giving these people free money and housing when they do this. Criminalize them for doing this, or at least punish them in some way instead of just turning a blind eye because the powers that be don't live in those communities.

To build more prisons you either have to raise taxes or close schools / hospitals. I think there's more cost efficient ways of doing this. Particularly if we involved respected people in those communities and a heavier and better informed garda presence. And made society fairer for people who choose the right path.

Thereafter the fact that for some of them going to prison is a status symbol and involves very little mandatory rehabilitation or requiring to learn alternative life skills is the next problem.

I think we probably need both

mloc123 wrote: »

We do not need new laws... we need the ones that exist to be enforced. Guards could confiscate these on any number of reasons already, they do not.

It's (very) interesting to watch the stance of the Parents Against Road Carnage group. They seem to have taken the stance that roads enforcement and administration (confiscation of licenses) should take precedence.

They frequently do use them on public roads but bolt to green areas at any hint of a garda response and the garda then give up. The they're not breaking any law or we have difficulty deciding if road traffic law should apply is BS.
These bikes are kept at home which has a public road outside and driven on a public road to green area/canal to cause nuisance. It would not take much detective work to figure out where they are kept. A sustained clamp down for 3/4 weeks would get most and then once every few months for several days would keep them under control. There is no will to do it is the issue.

Effects wrote: »

Yeah, because you would be an easy target from the Gardai to enforce against.

Teenagers who don't care even if they do manage to get caught are harder to deal with, so they generally don't bother with them.

Not just the teenagers/kids riding the scramblers but their families also, this is an example of what faces a guard trying to clean up the streets:

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

The new raised path from North Strand to Sherriff St will prob be full of scum too, given its location.

It's the fact that there is one way in and one way out that is scary. Hopefully it will be high traffic which will alleviate concerns. I don't fancy being trapped in a tight space 60 ft in their air with some scobie.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

The new raised path from North Strand to Sherriff St will prob be full of scum too, given its location.

The bridge itself is an eyesore plus phones constantly been snatched by lads on bikes there, this just gives them an easier escape route