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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #2312
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,700 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Like the one player who lets the whole team down :D

    https://twitter.com/IsChinar/status/1224012099518529538

    https://twitter.com/Postsubman/status/1224012244972920832


    There isnt certainty that it does spread before symptoms. It turns out that the woman who infected several colleagues in Germany was actually symptomatic and was taking fever reducing medicine at the time of her trip. Not sure why she would lie about that but it seems she did.

    Having said that, I dont think you can trust people to self isolate even when they start showing symptoms. I imagine it's easy to convince yourself its just a cold and nothing to worry about and go about your normal life


  • #2313
    car_radio19834
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭car_radio19834


    Ipso wrote: »
    Ooh, you’re So edgy. They must live you on reddit.

    ???


  • #2314
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    car_radio19834 wrote: »
    If my loved ones weren't in Ireland I'd have been gone long ago. I was much happier living in Ireland years ago when I was on ****e money.

    I find it hard to believe there's any love in the life of a man who is disappointed people aren't dying fast enough to cause a recession to drive house prices down.


  • #2315
    macapaca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ✭macapaca


    Somedaythefire wrote: »
    Yup. I’m talking about transmission though. Quite similar projected r0 figures.

    Corona virus is not r0 though. More like r2.x

    Other differences with Corona compared with SARS is that SARS was transmitted only person did show symptoms. This particular strain of the Corona virus is infectious to others during the patient incubation period prior to them having any symptoms.


  • #2316
    car_radio19834
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭car_radio19834


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I find it hard to believe there's any love in the life of a man who is disappointed people aren't dying fast enough to cause a recession to drive house prices down.

    Huh?

    Who said anything about people dying? I'm just hoping the impact is enough that it causes companies and countries to close borders meaning economic output will suffer.

    Again, never mentioned anything about house prices. I said services.


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  • #2317
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Moomoomacshoe wrote: »
    From what I'm reading the passengers were sent home and told to stay off work only if they show symptoms...I mean shouldn't they all be quarantined. It spreads before symptoms..zero faith in HSE


    If true that is crazy at this stage. I'd say we will get a positive case here within 7 days at this rate.


    I hope I'm wrong.


  • #2318
    macapaca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ✭macapaca


    hhhhmmmm .. RTE electing not to mention anything about the suspected patient taken off the plane from Moscow last night.


  • #2319
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    car_radio19834 wrote: »
    Huh?

    Who said anything about people dying? I'm just hoping the impact is enough that it causes companies and countries to close borders meaning economic output will suffer.

    Again, never mentioned anything about house prices. I said services.

    Are you high? You're hoping for a pandemic in East-Asia to solve your quality of life problems. Put down the crack pipe Timmy.


  • #2320
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Somedaythefire wrote: »
    Yup. I’m talking about transmission though. Quite similar projected r0 figures.

    Worth remembering too that R0 is not an intrinsic quality of the virus itself, but is also influenced by external factors.

    This virus has spread far more than SARS.


  • #2321
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    wakka12 wrote: »
    But people do sneeze and cough even if theyre not sick. Clearing your throat, nose irritation , hay fever. Also I'm sure all bodily liquid is infectious then , for example asymptomatic carriers sweating and using shared gym equipment are a danger then etc


    Wait, sweat carries viruses? :P


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  • #2322
    monty_python
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭monty_python


    ongarite wrote: »

    I'm in Singapore right now and you would hardly know this is a thing and this is a country at China's doorstep and massive transportation hub.

    No it's not. Youve got about 3 countries to pass before getting to China. It must be over 1000 miles. You need to look at a map


  • #2323
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Cody montana wrote: »
    What do you want them to prepare for though?

    Is that you Simon Harris?


  • #2324
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Is that you Simon Harris?


    Probably a troll


  • #2325
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    monty_python wrote: »
    No it's not. Youve got about 3 countries to pass before getting to China. It must be over 1000 miles. You need to look at a map

    As far as viruses go, it's arguably closer to China than Hanoi or Ulan Bator.


  • #2326
    catrat12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭catrat12


    We are too laid back as a country


  • #2327
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    ongarite wrote: »
    The media have people whipped into a frenzy. This is nothing but a strain of flu that no vaccine is available for yet unlike the regular flu shot available ever winter in Ireland. If you are an at risk person due to existing health issues then take some precautions if traveling near China.

    I'm in Singapore right now and you would hardly know this is a thing and this is a country at China's doorstep and massive transportation hub.

    This is different. Much more severe by all metrics. Dismiss it as being a hyped up "frenzy" at your peril.


  • #2328
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I'm surprised Indonesia doesn't have more cases, they've visa free policy for Chinese passports.


  • #2329
    catrat12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭catrat12


    I’m panicking and really considering buying canned foods


  • #2330
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Nice little graph here showing how it compares to other viruses

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/asia/china-coronavirus-contain.html


    edit to remove image - it's not just an image but check the link above


  • #2331
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    catrat12 wrote: »
    I’m panicking and really considering buying canned foods

    Bought a 4 pack of beans today myself.


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  • #2332
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Graph is pointless without log scale

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  • #2333
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    catrat12 wrote: »
    I’m panicking and really considering buying canned foods


    No need to panic but just don't put too much faith in the clueless authorities to do much for you in the event that things go badly.

    ****



  • #2334
    sdanseo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Was out at the shops just now and decided to have a look in B&Q.

    All the shelves normally containing face masks, respirators, dust masks are completely empty; except for the most basic FFP1s which are essentially useless for this kind of thing.


  • #2335
    marvin80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭marvin80


    catrat12 wrote: »
    I’m panicking and really considering buying canned foods

    This is exactly what we all need to do right now - panic and start stockpiling.


  • #2336
    2xj3hplqgsbkym
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭2xj3hplqgsbkym


    I cannot figure out the maths on this. So on 20th January , apparently there were 200 people confirmed with the virus in Wuhan , so less than .0001 % of the population. Yet at least 16 people flew out of Wuhan with the virus and contaminated other countries ? statistics are certainly not my strong point but I cannot figure out how the number leaving the country with the virus is so high?


  • #2337
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Caroline Broad Glob wrote: »
    I cannot figure out the maths on this. So on 20th January , apparently there were 200 people confirmed with the virus in Wuhan , so less than .0001 % of the population. Yet at least 16 people flew out of Wuhan with the virus and contaminated other countries ? statistics are certainly not my strong point but I cannot figure out how the number leaving the country with the virus is so high?

    That's how some people conclude that the number of infections must be a lot higher than the official figures, mostly mild or asymptomatic cases.


  • #2338
    car_radio19834
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭car_radio19834


    From Friday to Saturday there were 3k infections. From yesterday to today there's only 200.

    Looks like this will be finished soon.


  • #2339
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    catrat12 wrote: »
    I’m panicking and really considering buying canned foods

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  • #2340
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    car_radio19834 wrote: »
    From Friday to Saturday there were 3k infections. From yesterday to today there's only 200.
    Looks like this will be finished soon.
    Incorrecto:

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  • #2341
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    car_radio19834 wrote: »
    From Friday to Saturday there were 3k infections. From yesterday to today there's only 200.

    Looks like this will be finished soon.

    And in 2018 a staggering 154 people died from flu in China, a country where they don't even bother getting a vaccine shot...believe their numbers all you want

    Something...no test kits...something...people turned away from hospitals...


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