new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Akrasia · 02-02-2020 10:26AM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Could they have possibly released it on purpose?

You never really know how effective a BW could be, unless you test it in real world conditions... They might not be too bothered by a few 1,000 dead in order to get these weapons ready for a future global war scenario. They do tend to see the average person on the street, as being somewhat expendable over the needs of the collective national interests.

Horrible thought... but I would suggest not completely improbable!

I have to admit to being shocked that someone with your username also happens to be a conspiracy theorist... who would ever have thought it???

This virus is an inevitable consequence of mixing live animal markets with large densely populated urban environments

Blud · 02-02-2020 10:27AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

That's what you always say to anything that contradicts your batsoup story.

Whereas your approach is just to ignore any inconvenient posts?

VinLieger · 02-02-2020 10:28AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Because it needs repeating.

As does the request for you to show your source about the CIA.

Or simply admit you made it up or the "source" is extremely unreliable....

Kermit.de.frog · 02-02-2020 10:29AM

Akrasia wrote: »

I have to admit to being shocked that someone with your username also happens to be a conspiracy theorist... who would ever have thought it???

This virus is an inevitable consequence of mixing live animal markets with large densely populated urban environments

Or a release from a lab that happens to be the foremost viral experimentation (or bio weapon) facility in China and located in the exact same place as the source of the outbreak.

People going a long way to defend the Communist regime here...interesting.

02-02-2020 10:29AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Because it needs repeating.

Why?

No. Seriously. Why does it need repeating? (considering the lack of evidence)

NewMan1982 · 02-02-2020 10:29AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Quarantined.

It's not because of bat soup - it's because it's a weapon. Its a weaponised virus.

That is why cities are being quarantined.

China attacked itself (by accident presumably)

For the first time ever on boards I need to block a user.

Rvsmmnps · 02-02-2020 10:30AM

This is squabbling. I come here for updates and opinions.

Kermit.de.frog · 02-02-2020 10:30AM

Blud wrote: »

Whereas your approach is just to ignore any inconvenient posts?

Yes. Google exists, use it.:P

VinLieger · 02-02-2020 10:31AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

People going a long way to defend the Communist regime here...interesting.

Lol good job refuting that conspiracy theorist label

02-02-2020 10:31AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

That's what you always say to anything that contradicts your batsoup story.

No I don't. I haven't discounted the lab theory. I even said it was plausible.

If you want to try and take what I replied to and explain to me how the sum of those parts equals escaped virus, go ahead.. I haven't seen you using those "points" he made.

Kermit.de.frog · 02-02-2020 10:31AM

NewMan1982 wrote: »

For the first time ever on boards I need to block a user.

You have 191 posts.

I'm devastated.

02-02-2020 10:32AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

People going a long way to defend the Communist regime here...interesting.

I haven't seen many posts here that were actually defending the government... care to refer to the post numbers for me to see?

SeaBreezes · 02-02-2020 10:33AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sure it's plausible. But natural sources, like all other viruses over eons, is more plausible. As far as we know, there is nothing unique about this virus that suggests it's lab-made. And it isn't some hyper-virus either. There's still only been one death outside China.

Paper indicating this virus has HIV properties..

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf

Taken together, our findings suggest unconventional evolution of 2019-nCoV that warrants further investigation. Our work highlights novel evolutionary aspects of the 2019-nCoV and has implications on the pathogenesis and diagnosis of this virus.

02-02-2020 10:33AM

We should get back on track though as your man said. This is squabbling. And whether or not you want to admit it, the lab stuff belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum.

Duke of Url · 02-02-2020 10:35AM

The IMTU are investigating a link between the Coronavirus in China and the Bush Fires in Australia :eek:

Ficheall · 02-02-2020 10:35AM

I want to know what the story is with the two French patients who have been in a "serious" condition for over a week..

02-02-2020 10:37AM

I'm going to be teaching around 500 different students in the coming week without a proper mask as I can't find one. And the students won't be able to find one either. Many of these students have been in China in the last two weeks, I've been hanging out with people living there, as have many other teachers. Everyone has been travelling around for the lunar new year as well. The latest confirmed case this morning in a tourist who travelled through Wuhan on the 15th January.

Many schools and universities are voluntarily closing, but not mine. Balls.

Kermit.de.frog · 02-02-2020 10:38AM

Deleted User wrote: »

We should get back on track though as your man said. This is squabbling. And whether or not you want to admit it, the lab stuff belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum.

I'll get back on track on the destruction of China and the squabbling if you agree that the lab "theory" is not for the conspiracy forum.

It is a genuine possibility that can not be ignored.

VinLieger · 02-02-2020 10:41AM

Ficheall wrote: »

I want to know what the story is with the two French patients who have been in a "serious" condition for over a week..

Serious comes before critical so not much there id say tbh.

More questions need to be asked of china's numbers its getting to the stage where the numbers of currently infected, dead and recovered are not adding up

Oranage2 · 02-02-2020 10:42AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm going to be teaching around 500 different students in the coming week without a proper mask as I can't find one. And the students won't be able to find one either. Many of these students have been in China in the last two weeks, I've been hanging out with people living there, as have many other teachers. Everyone has been travelling around for the lunar new year as well. The latest confirmed case this morning in a tourist who travelled through Wuhan on the 15th January.

Many schools and universities are voluntarily closing, but not mine. Balls.

Ask them can you take a month off?

SeaBreezes · 02-02-2020 10:42AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm going to be teaching around 500 different students in the coming week without a proper mask as I can't find one. And the students won't be able to find one either. Many of these students have been in China in the last two weeks, I've been hanging out with people living there, as have many other teachers. Everyone has been travelling around for the lunar new year as well. The latest confirmed case this morning in a tourist who travelled through Wuhan on the 15th January.

Many schools and universities are voluntarily closing, but not mine. Balls.

Can you give it online? Save a large number of carbon points too?

Use webex or zoom?

02-02-2020 10:43AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm going to be teaching around 500 different students in the coming week without a proper mask as I can't find one. And the students won't be able to find one either. Many of these students have been in China in the last two weeks, I've been hanging out with people living there, as have many other teachers. Everyone has been travelling around for the lunar new year as well. The latest confirmed case this morning in a tourist who travelled through Wuhan on the 15th January.

Many schools and universities are voluntarily closing, but not mine. Balls.

Where are you?

Check your contract and look at your health clauses (the government law regarding foreigners is also worth a read). Your school probably has to provide a safe working environment, so you could quite easily push the lack of preventative measures as a breach of the contract.

My university (Xi'an) is closed until March. The Chinese government has recommended most businesses to stay closed until after Feb 9th pending further developments. You can use those kind of details to negotiate your teaching requirements.

SeaBreezes · 02-02-2020 10:44AM

VinLieger wrote: »

Serious comes before critical so not much there id say tbh.

More questions need to be asked of china's numbers its getting to the stage where the numbers of currently infected, dead and recovered are not adding up

That's what I keep wondering. Are the others still fighting it? Is there a period of time before your fully recovered? Are they only counting people hospitalised?

Oranage2 · 02-02-2020 10:45AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Where are you?

Check your contract and look at your health clauses (the government law regarding foreigners is also worth a read). Your school probably has to provide a safe working environment, so you could quite easily push the lack of preventative measures as a breach of the contract.

My university (Xi'an) is closed until March. The Chinese government has recommended most businesses to stay closed until after Feb 9th pending further developments. You can use those kind of details to negotiate your teaching requirements.

I'm sure he's in vietnam

This is it · 02-02-2020 10:48AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Quarantined.

It's not because of bat soup - it's because it's a weapon. Its a weaponised virus.

That is why cities are being quarantined.

China attacked itself (by accident presumably)

Even if what you're saying is true, you need to calm down. You're going on like a raving lunatic, it's hard to take anything you say seriously.

scamalert · 02-02-2020 10:48AM

if people would only use rational thinking not consipracy ****e on the internet, given total numbers this virus doesnt even match flu, as 300 death toll as bad as it may sound, in likes of china is a grain of sand. given that it has incubaction period and modern medicine, its spread is slow - which means very well treatable.

we had zika few years back which carried and still does massive genetic disorder for female pregnant women and kids, far worse consequences for life. ebola was something that could been agro virus given location and how uneducated people were at the time.

but in a country with well over billion people 300 deaths and few outside, we have almost same numbers of people that die from regular flu each year here, so this hype that it will have snowball effect when most countries already have contingencies in place to monitor its spread and contain it, shows more of hysteria that media pushes as theres nothing else to report.

02-02-2020 10:49AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Ask them can you take a month off?

Maybe. Wouldn't even care if it was unpaid.

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Can you give it online? Save a large number of carbon points too?

Use webex or zoom?

I could use my own software for that. I have a small LMS company.

Deleted User wrote: »

Where are you?

Check your contract and look at your health clauses (the government law regarding foreigners is also worth a read). Your school probably has to provide a safe working environment, so you could quite easily push the lack of preventative measures as a breach of the contract.

My university (Xi'an) is closed until March. The Chinese government has recommended most businesses to stay closed until after Feb 9th pending further developments. You can use those kind of details to negotiate your teaching requirements.

Hanoi, so not really panicked. Just have a feeling the numbers are going to go up here. I'll have a look at the contract but I doubt I'd find anything worthwhile in it.

Oranage2 · 02-02-2020 10:50AM

I don't really understand the argument that the common flu kills more. It's like saying guns kill less than the common flu so we shouldn't care about guns.

PhantomHat · 02-02-2020 10:50AM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

That's what I keep wondering. Are the others still fighting it? Is there a period of time before your fully recovered? Are they only counting people hospitalised?

Possibly up to 14 days pre symptom incubation period which may be infectious. About 14 days symptom period.

NewMan1982 · 02-02-2020 10:51AM

Conspiracy theorist are such hard work. There is literally nothing you can show them or tell them that can change their minds no matter how many fact based articles dispute their claims.

They use anonymous unsubstantiated articles from random websites to back their stories.

Any of the ones I know in real life weren’t that smart.

Can the conspiracy theorists start a new thread please and leave this one for the facts.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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