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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #1262
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The news about it have gone viral..


  • #1263
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    What video? All sounds a bit ridiculously alarmist to me tbh....

    ETA...... ah, this is After Hours, explains a lot.....

    ETA 2...... cartridges of what, exactly?

    Famous last words.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #1264
    yosser hughes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    What's your point in the terms of government efficiency and transparency?

    The last election in Ireland was 2016 and we got a government that wasted billions of taxpayer funds on badly run projects while the national debt grew to record levels. Many of the government TDs engaged in corruption and insurance/expense fraud.

    The governments of the early 2000s were also hugely corrupt and bankrupted the country. They told us there would be a soft landing.

    Bad as we are served here, we don't live in a totalitarian state.We have the opportunity to vote governments in and out.We don't have forced labour camps.
    We have a free press.
    You're seriously deluded if you think you can trust the communist state of China.


  • #1265
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,748 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Famous last words.

    :eek:


  • #1266
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,279 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    thecretinhop wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/rwXPeIwV_q4

    live chat at 11pm from adv. like them or not they have some salient views having lived in china and married to native chinese women

    I imagine the Chinese luv their flag being disfigured that way :D


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  • #1267
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    No not false figures as in lying about the figures that have recorded, just taking actions that cause those cases not to be recorded as quickly as they could be.

    So the beginning of the outbreak was suppressed, they are the most opaque regime in modern times (after North Korea) but now the default position is to accept their numbers? OnLy ConSpIrAcY LoSeRs QueStioN Communist PartY oF China? wtf

    They didn't know what they had on their hands and when they realised the severity, they informed WHO in December.

    Economy rules all and the same goes for Ireland, along with other Western countries. They weren't going to raise a red flag on a potential false alarm and unnecessarily send their country further toward a recession.

    In the end they castrated their economy for good cause, shutting down a city with a population almost 3 times that of Ireland.

    Not every story has a bad guy.


  • #1268
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    yosser hughes wrote: »
    Bad as we are served here, we don't live in a totalitarian state.We have the opportunity to vote governments in and out.We don't have forced labour camps.
    We have a free press.
    You're seriously deluded if you think you can trust the communist state of China.

    Free press like the independent who said coronavirus was in NI?


  • #1269
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,312 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Has Trump not nuked the epicentre yet???
    This is why we put him in the White House, moments like these.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #1270
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://mobile.twitter.com/WHO/status/1222969858574430217

    WHO - Don't interfere with international travel!!??!?!?

    Did I read that right????


  • #1271
    Man Vs ManUre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    I normally drink Heineken so I should be ok. Having to chop up a lemon and squeeze it into the bottle top was always too much hassle, especially when you lose some of the beer when it foams up and rises when the lemon hits.


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  • #1272
    thecretinhop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I imagine the Chinese luv their flag being disfigured that way :D

    lol never spotted it


  • #1273
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Man Vs ManUre wrote: »
    I normally drink Heineken so I should be ok. Having to chop up a lemon and squeeze it into the bottle top was always too much hassle, especially when you lose some of the beer when it foams up and rises when the lemon hits.

    No flies on you.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #1274
    thecretinhop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    Deleted User wrote: »
    https://mobile.twitter.com/WHO/status/1222969858574430217

    WHO - Don't interfere with international travel!!??!?!?

    Did I read that right????

    christ on a bike, these clowns are protecting us??


  • #1275
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,739 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    ardinn wrote: »
    Sorry if there is a thread already on this.

    I just received a video of what is happening in wuhan - to say we are all going to die is an understatement!

    I for one welcome our new virus overlords


  • #1276
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    https://mobile.twitter.com/WHO/status/1222969858574430217

    WHO - Don't interfere with international travel!!??!?!?

    Did I read that right????

    Would you prefer they advise the opposite and send us into a global economic depression?

    They have to strike a fine balance.

    Look at the hick comments on that Twitter post, maybe that will make you reassess your view on this.


  • #1277
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    First confirmed case in Moscow
    https://regnum.ru/news/2844936


  • #1278
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    They didn't know what they had on their hands and when they realised the severity, they informed WHO in December.

    Economy rules all and the same goes for Ireland, along with other Western countries. They weren't going to raise a red flag on a potential false alarm and unnecessarily send their country further toward a recession.

    In the end they castrated their economy for good cause, shutting down a city with a population almost 3 times that of Ireland.

    Not every story has a bad guy.

    So, they suppress at the outbreak of SARS during crucial stages, they suppress at the outbreak of this at the crucial stage and you give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are innocent. They did their best and were just caught off gaurd?

    Do you think that about SARS as well?

    Like I know that they have reacted in a big way since they realised how much they ****ed up, I know they made the genome info public extremely fast and took these huge measures but I don't know why you attribute that to anything more than self preservation.

    It's safe to assume they are not 'good guys'. I don't think of them as cartoon bad guys, I think their system lends itself to this crap and they should be held accountable.


  • #1279
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    ardinn wrote: »
    Sorry if there is a thread already on this.

    I just received a video of what is happening in wuhan - to say we are all going to die is an understatement!
    Be careful with those videos, there is an awful lot of ****e. I saw a video last week of a person in a hazmat suit talking about terrible things, which turned out to be someone in Korea pretending to be Chinese.

    Several videos of people falling over and people rioting have been from well before 2020.

    People are weird, and some of them get off on causing panic.


  • #1280
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.corriere.it/cronache/20_gennaio_30/coronavirus-italia-corona-9d6dc436-4343-11ea-bdc8-faf1f56f19b7.shtml?refresh_ce-cp
    Two people in Rome diagnosed with coronavirus

    https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/news/coronavirus-ausbruch-im-news-ticker-china-rueckkehrer-sollen-in-kaserne-in-rheinland-pfalz-kommen_id_11576018.html
    A fifth coworker of a woman from Shanghai has been infected in Munich

    Almost 1400 people in China in a serious condition, over 300 others in critical condition, combined with 170 deaths that would mean around 1 in 4 patients are experiencing severe complications from the virus
    https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/01/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

    Just two out of 128 cases outside China in a serious condition


  • #1281
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Would you prefer they advise the opposite and send us into a global economic depression?
    Very true. It's not the job of the WHO to shut the world down every time some new virus appears - otherwise we'd all be in quarantine because colds (also a Coronavirus) were spreading.

    The WHO have to give good advice to governments, without sending everyone into a panic. There are a number of serious viruses currently in circulation - there's H1N1 in India, Ebola in Africa, MERS in the Gulf, and we don't all barricade ourselves inside as a consequence - even though any one of these could end up in Dublin one day.


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  • #1282
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Estimates put the upper limit on deaths in Ireland to be about 20k in a worst case scenario.


  • #1283
    Reckless Abandonment
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Estimates put the upper limit on deaths in Ireland to be about 20k in a worst case scenario.

    Where is that coming from ?


  • #1284
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Estimates put the upper limit on deaths in Ireland to be about 20k in a worst case scenario.

    I would estimate it’s closer to 10 million deaths in Ireland as worse case.


  • #1285
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Reckless Abandonment wrote: »
    Where is that coming from ?

    China.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #1286
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    I would estimate it’s closer to 10 million deaths in Ireland as worse case.

    Best case scenario in my opinion.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #1287
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    I would estimate it’s closer to 10 million deaths in Ireland as worse case.

    Probably about as valid as the other estimate. How can anyone even make any estimates about something like this? There are infinite variables that make it literally impossible


  • #1288
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Reckless Abandonment wrote: »
    Where is that coming from ?

    Samuel McConkey, Associate Professor and Head of the Department of International Health and Tropical Medicine at the RCSI


  • #1289
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Samuel McConkey, Associate Professor and Head of the Department of International Health and Tropical Medicine at the RCSI

    link..?


  • #1290
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Probably about as valid as the other estimate. How can anyone even make any estimates about something like this? There are infinite variables that make it literally impossible

    Estimates are never literally impossible.


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  • #1291
    peasant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Estimates put the upper limit on deaths in Ireland to be about 20k in a worst case scenario.
    Reckless Abandonment wrote: »
    Where is that coming from ?

    Some expert on the last word this evening, based on infection rates and death percentages ...worst case scenario, mind you.


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