The Batman (Matt Reeves) spoilers from post 1030

Goodshape · 07-01-2020 9:30am

Filming in London? That could be a very welcome change of aesthetic from New York etc.

pixelburp · 07-01-2020 3:59pm

Chicago has been Gotham's most recent / blatant inspiration, being as it was used for shooting the two Nolan Batman sequels; though Batman Begins had more of a shanty-town feel about it, The Narrows based on Kowloon in Hong Kong, so the feel of the city changed quite a bit even within that trilogy.

I'm guessing the London buildings will double again for Arkham, maybe Wayne Manor; the older parts of Gotham anyway.

Who knows though. IIRC, World War Z actually shot its downtown Philadelphia scenes in Glasgow; that city's based on a grid, its architectural style very similar those downtown across the Atlantic. It would take very little effort to dress its streets as American.

Goodshape · 07-01-2020 7:46pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Chicago has been Gotham's most recent / blatant inspiration, being as it was used for shooting the two Nolan Batman sequels;

Ah, you're right actually. Bit of research and it seems Nolan used mostly Chicago and, particularly in ...Rises, a handful of other cities – including London! – for Gotham City.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotham_City#Films

So filming in London, again, doesn't mean much in itself. But I hope they make it more interesting and unique than Nolan's New York-inspired take on it. Found that a weak point of those films, particularly in the second two.

peteeeed · 12-01-2020 10:48pm

Now Glasgow

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18154934.parts-robert-pattersons-batman-movie-filmed-glasgow/

pixelburp · 12-01-2020 11:19pm

Ha! Well I did say it could pass for a US city

fitz · 13-01-2020 11:54am

Goodshape wrote: »

But I hope they make it more interesting and unique than Nolan's New York-inspired take on it. Found that a weak point of those films, particularly in the second two.

To be fair, that's hardly a Nolan inspiration... It's straight from the comics. Gotham and Metropolis were always meant to represent grimey/cleaner versions of New York respectively.

Theboinkmaster · 13-01-2020 1:43pm

Martin Tyler AgueroooOO wrote: »

A lot of them might look at the Joker box office and take a backend percentage instead of an up front paycheck

Studios don't do that any more - it's very rare.

Only if they need someone unique - like Ford for The Force Awakens.

Nobody on this is going to get a slice of the box office.

Drumpot · 14-01-2020 10:25am

Been watching the Nolan trilogy the last week. Any future films will struggle badly to be anywhere near as good. Also good luck to anybody trying to bring a better joker to the screen.

I’m really interested to see how this turns out but can’t imagine there ever being a better Batman movie. Actually I can’t imagine a better comicbook trilogy/story of any sort to be fair.

Baggly · 14-01-2020 10:27am

I love Ledgers joker, but was pleased with Phoenix's take as well.

It wasnt necessarily better in all the same ways. It was different. Like i could take both.

Im hoping they do the same here with Batman. Wont try to compete but will bring his own take to the table.

Drumpot · 14-01-2020 10:38am

Baggly wrote: »

I love Ledgers joker, but was pleased with Phoenix's take as well.

It wasnt necessarily better in all the same ways. It was different. Like i could take both.

Im hoping they do the same here with Batman. Wont try to compete but will bring his own take to the table.

I really enjoyed Joker aswell but it didn’t really feel like a Batman movie and I’m not sure I will ever watch it again. Prob couldn’t of been more different if it was trying so it doesn’t really feel like it’s an alternative to Nolan’s Joker and it was a great standalone piece that doesn’t need any extended story in the Batman universe (although it might get one).

This is the problem with reboots or extensions of loved characters, it’s so hard not to compare with older movies. I think the dark Knight is possibly the best film I’ve ever seen in the cinema because of my expectations going in (was excited for months) and how it didn’t just surpass but blew those expectations out of the water.

I think in terms of Batman Pattinson is a really interesting choice who could be a good (and at same time not the obvious choice) Batman like Ledger was joker (there was initially uproar when he was chosen).

The White Wolf · 14-01-2020 10:45am

Watching Harley Quinn, it does make me a bit regretful that we probably won't see Joker in his true form in live action anytime soon.

The full on absurd homicidal nutter who has his goons dressed in purple along with all his whacky Joker themed gadgets; perhaps it would difficult to translate but I'd love to see it.

peteeeed · 14-01-2020 10:54am

Drumpot wrote: »

Been watching the Nolan trilogy the last week. Any future films will struggle badly to be anywhere near as good. Also good luck to anybody trying to bring a better joker to the screen.

I’m really interested to see how this turns out but can’t imagine there ever being a better Batman movie. Actually I can’t imagine a better comicbook trilogy/story of any sort to be fair.

lots of rumours of macaulay culkin being approached to be the joker in this series of films

Baggly · 14-01-2020 11:00am

Drumpot wrote: »

I really enjoyed Joker aswell but it didn’t really feel like a Batman movie and I’m not sure I will ever watch it again. Prob couldn’t of been more different if it was trying so it doesn’t really feel like it’s an alternative to Nolan’s Joker and it was a great standalone piece that doesn’t need any extended story in the Batman universe (although it might get one).

This is the problem with reboots or extensions of loved characters, it’s so hard not to compare with older movies. I think the dark Knight is possibly the best film I’ve ever seen in the cinema because of my expectations going in (was excited for months) and how it didn’t just surpass but blew those expectations out of the water.

I think in terms of Batman Pattinson is a really interesting choice who could be a good (and at same time not the obvious choice) Batman like Ledger was joker (there was initially uproar when he was chosen).

I felt the same way about Joker, but forced myself to watch it a second time. Noticed a lot of nuance i didnt see the first time. But anyways; im heavily tempering my expectations about this Batman film; setting ourselves up for a fall to expect it to be like Nolans. And if they take the more 'real world' approach i think they are setting themselves up to fail too. I think it will need a little bit of fanaticism.

Drumpot · 14-01-2020 11:01am

peteeeed wrote: »

lots of rumours of macaulay culkin being approached to be the joker in this series of films

Really? I honestly don’t know what to say about that.

Drumpot · 14-01-2020 11:07am

Baggly wrote: »

I felt the same way about Joker, but forced myself to watch it a second time. Noticed a lot of nuance i didnt see the first time. But anyways; im heavily tempering my expectations about this Batman film; setting ourselves up for a fall to expect it to be like Nolans. And if they take the more 'real world' approach i think they are setting themselves up to fail too. I think it will need a little bit of fanaticism.

I was thinking that aswell, until the Nolan Batman’s have aged (which they haven’t one bit) I’d be staying away from real world approaches to Batman. They are on a hiding to nothing trying that out.

It’s funny cause I think batman is possibly one of the few super hero’s who can survive in a real world universe. Can any big super hero of marvel be in a non fantasy world ? Obviously you can’t have superman in the RW but as a villian Lex Luther is probably one of the best potential RL baddies.

Baggly · 14-01-2020 11:12am

Drumpot wrote: »

I was thinking that aswell, until the Nolan Batman’s have aged (which they haven’t one bit) I’d be staying away from real world approaches to Batman. They are on a hiding to nothing trying that out.

It’s funny cause I think batman is possibly one of the few super hero’s who can survive in a real world universe. Can any big super hero of marvel be in a non fantasy world ? Obviously you can’t have superman in the RW but as a villian Lex Luther is probably one of the best potential RL baddies.

Im not going to get into the definition of 'big' with you, but i suppose Black Widow / Daredevil would be about it. And strictly speaking MCU Daredevil hasnt been in a MCU movie so.....

If you ignore the serum part and just take CA: Winter Solider, i think thats about as 'real' as the MCU can get.

Drumpot · 14-01-2020 11:21am

Baggly wrote: »

Im not going to get into the definition of 'big' with you, but i suppose Black Widow / Daredevil would be about it. And strictly speaking MCU Daredevil hasnt been in a MCU movie so.....

If you ignore the serum part and just take CA: Winter Solider, i think thats about as 'real' as the MCU can get.

CA could be a self righteous online super hero. Doling out lectures to people so they can be inspired to be better.

The daredevil on Netflix was very very good to be fair.

Black widow and Hawkeye always stuck out in the marvel movies for me so I agree they could equally have their own “real” universe but that would prob just feel like a James Bondy or Bourne (Renner of course has played this) kind of movie.

I think what’s unique about Nolan’s movies is how well they work as a comicbook movie or just an action movie (like die hard). You really can watch them as either because they are so well made.

Baggly · 14-01-2020 11:25am

A discussion for another time in another thread methinks

cdgalwegian · 17-01-2020 10:19am

Leaked photo of Colin Farrell as (a not particularly rotund) Penguin

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/batmans-penguin-revealed-behindthescenes-photos/?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_4761284

pixelburp · 17-01-2020 10:21am

The "Gotham" TV series' Penguin wasn't large either; instead they gave him a gammy leg that made him waddle like the bird. I'd take a guess this is the same approach with Farrell's version.

17-01-2020 10:28am

Did Jonah Hill really think that he was worth $10M, to play penguin??

B.A._Baracus · 17-01-2020 10:34am

Deleted User wrote: »

Did Jonah Hill really think that he was worth $10M, to play penguin??

Accordingly Jonah Hill got 10 million for 22 Jump Street. But that was a sequel to a high grossing movie and that was 6 years ago.
Maybe he was just going high with the hopes they'd agree. Maybe he really didn't give a balls :pac:

Tazzimus · 17-01-2020 10:37am

pixelburp wrote: »

The "Gotham" TV series' Penguin wasn't large either; instead they gave him a gammy leg that made him waddle like the bird. I'd take a guess this is the same approach with Farrell's version.

The way he's standing in that pic, with one foot turned out to the side a fair bit, makes me think it'll be like Gotham as well. No issues here if that's the case.

The White Wolf · 17-01-2020 11:27am

I enjoyed the Gotham take but I'd say Farrell will go for a different approach.

17-01-2020 11:58am

The White Wolf wrote: »

I enjoyed the Gotham take but I'd say Farrell will go for a different approach.

Farrell will do more overt menace I would feel, as opposed to Gotham's unhinged version

pixelburp · 17-01-2020 1:15pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

I enjoyed the Gotham take but I'd say Farrell will go for a different approach.

Characterisation, sure; Gotham's Penguin (from what I recall) was quite a weasel'y kind of figure. The physical manifestation of "Penguin" though is kind of a pre-requisite, and going by Farrell's stance in that photo, appears to be in his gait.

peteeeed · 28-01-2020 7:20am

https://twitter.com/mattreevesla/status/1221927006448898049?s=21

w/s/p/c/ · 28-01-2020 11:46am

Looking forward to seeing what the suit and batmobile look like. I am sure we will see pics soon.

Seeing some youtuber guy state that he has good sources that the batmobile will be some sort of muscle car, so no fancy tank like machine like the last couple of incarnations.

FunLover18 · 13-02-2020 11:35pm

Screen test of the new suit

https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/1228093055103881216?s=19

Frank Bullitt · 13-02-2020 11:41pm

The boy looks good!

brevity · 13-02-2020 11:45pm

I got a bit of a Dredd vibe from it.

The suit looks great. I wonder is the bat symbol on the front a weapon of some sort?

Goodshape · 13-02-2020 11:47pm

Cool! Looks relatively practical and agile for a Bat-suit.

Really glad he's not a lumbering hulk anyway.

Slydice · 13-02-2020 11:50pm

Man Alive! :eek:

Slydice · 14-02-2020 12:05am

The replies!

That's Michael Giacchino on the music! This is gonna be epic!

https://twitter.com/m_giacchino/status/1228096836633812992

Someone made a Black and White version!

https://twitter.com/imPatrickT/status/1228098246708465669

Lots of mention of the Netflix Daredevil intro.. which is understandable given the red colour being used.

dublinman1990 · 14-02-2020 12:10am

Oh my god. It looks bloody wonderful. The whole tone of the presentation just feels so damn intense.

The ears on the cowl would have been another sweetener for the eyes. But I'm happy with this look to date.

Matt Reeves. You're a flipping genius.

The White Wolf · 14-02-2020 4:57am

I like the suit but it's going to take some getting used to the face.

peteeeed · 14-02-2020 8:18am

music is great

kerplun k · 14-02-2020 9:07am

Honest opinion... The suit is missing nipples.

pixelburp · 14-02-2020 9:13am

That's a really good suit. Distinctive and striking, definitely its own thing

w/s/p/c/ · 14-02-2020 9:14am

Looks great, online chatter on twitter is that the bat symbol on the suit is made from the gun used to kill his parents....

Shall look forward to seeing a full photo

pixelburp · 14-02-2020 9:15am

I expect the first cosplayers wearing this by the end of the day lol

14-02-2020 9:16am

I really had an honest chuckle at all the people blowing up about him not being Batfleck, given the absolute gnashing of teeth when Ben Affleck was announced.

I remember (I think it was shortly after The Town?) saying that he would make a great Batman and being laughed out of it. I vaguely remember the same over Keaton being cast.

All I know is that it's a pity that young Kevin Conroy never got the chance

Tazzimus · 14-02-2020 9:18am

Practical looking suit for combat, compared to the usual rubber gimp suit that limits movement. Seems like a bit of an improvement on Bale's suit, which I liked.

He looks the part anyway.

Tazzimus · 14-02-2020 9:19am

Deleted User wrote: »

I really had an honest chuckle at all the people blowing up about him not being Batfleck, given the absolute gnashing of teeth when Ben Affleck was announced.

I remember (I think it was shortly after The Town?) saying that he would make a great Batman and being laughed out of it. I vaguely remember the same over Keaton being cast.

All I know is that it's a pity that young Kevin Conroy never got the chance

In fairness, Keaton wasn't a great Batman. Fantastic Bruce Wayne though.

yourdeadwright · 14-02-2020 9:45am

Suit looks great and practical so I guess like Nolan it'll be less "fantasy"
Not sure about the mask but I reckon it'll be a grower

FunLover18 · 14-02-2020 10:06am

Here's a clearer image of the head and shoulders, interesting that the cape appears to have a collar

https://twitter.com/hotkenobi/status/1228118750781534208?s=19

homerun_homer · 14-02-2020 2:21pm

That still looks not unlike Night Owl from Watchmen, which I know was a rip on Batman. The outfit from the glimpse in the video looks a bit uncomfortable.

The White Wolf · 14-02-2020 5:53pm

homerun_homer wrote: »

That still looks not unlike Night Owl from Watchmen, which I know was a rip on Batman. The outfit from the glimpse in the video looks a bit uncomfortable.

That costume looks to be straight out of the comics, just one of the many interpretations or at the very least a bastardisation of a couple of suits. I can see the Netflix Daredevil comparisons though, don't know why they would do that and provoke plenty of absurd accusations.

Homelander · 14-02-2020 7:10pm

Robert Pattinson is an incredible actor.... and that jawline was built for Batman. It's a shame too many people judge him by a film he was in once upon a time, completely ignoring everything he's done since, wilfully or otherwise. Reminds me of Daniel Radcliffe in that sense, another wonderful actor who's constantly going new, weird places, but consistently putting on an incredible show...but some people won't let go of Harry Potter, as if his range started and ended with the first movie or two.

I try not to expect too much from newly announced Batmen, but after seeing him in knockout performance after knockout performance, this is possibly the most confident I've been in some time.

Frank Bullitt · 14-02-2020 7:57pm

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Nice details in this one, mask looks stitched as well.

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