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Yaris GR - 260 BPH, 4x4 with LSD...

  • 15-01-2020 4:34pm
    #1
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Toyota annouced the most cute small m...f...r - Yaris GR...

    Three pot 1.5 engine produces stunning ~260 BHP... Permanent 4x4 with optional two LSD Torsen differentials... This is going to be fun...

    Of course, Toyota Ireland is silent. As always with anything remotely interesting.

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  • #2
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    That car would probably cost over 40k here when you take into account our taxes. All Toyota Ireland want to do is sell hybrids to mass goers Mary and John who have virtually no interest in such cars.


  • #3
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    bazz26 wrote: »
    That car would probably cost over 40k here when you take into account our taxes.

    It costs, what it costs. All of those would be brought for order anyway, they wouldn't have to stock them and then try to shift... I don't really see a problem, bar the state of mind of Toyota Ireland.
    All Toyota Ireland want to do is sell hybrids to mass goers Mary and John who have virtually no interest in such cars.

    The target of TI has no interest in cars period ... ;)


  • #4
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    This seems to be a homologation model for motorsports? Can’t see any other reason for it. It’s not as if it’s a halo model that will sell thousands of 1.0 models to rally fans.

    They can’t even build a Supra themselves ffs.


  • #5
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    This seems to be a homologation model for motorsports? Can’t see any other reason for it.

    Yet, it is.
    colm_mcm wrote: »
    It’s not as if it’s a halo model that will sell thousands of 1.0 models to rally fans.

    They can’t even build a Supra themselves ffs.

    At least 8000 units will be built. That's far more than the typical homologation requirements and there is an actual chance to get one.


  • #6
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭kooga


    Uk price is estimated at £30K according to autocar


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  • #7
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    grogi wrote: »
    Yet, it is.



    At least 8000 units will be built. That's far more than the typical homologation requirements and there is an actual chance to get one.

    Curious to see how many they sell.


  • #8
    bazz26
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    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    But realistically speaking even if it wasn't for VRT how many would Toyota Ireland actually sell? The market for performance cars over here is tiny

    VW sold plenty of Golf Rs here in recent times so there is certainly a market here for performance cars even if it relatively small.


  • #9
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    But realistically speaking even if it wasn't for VRT how many would Toyota Ireland actually sell? The market for performance cars over here is tiny

    And anyone looking for performance cars will most likely never consider a Yaris.


  • #10
    Neilw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,788 ✭✭✭Neilw


    bazz26 wrote: »
    That car would probably cost over 40k here when you take into account our taxes.

    More like 60k.


  • #11
    selectamatic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    £32k is what I've seen mentioned for the uk.

    Hard know where that'll leave us.

    Interesting to see Toyota uk have been getting a few popular British youtubers onboard.


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  • #12
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    selectamatic wrote: »
    £32k is what I've seen mentioned for the uk.

    Hard know where that'll leave us.

    Interesting to see Toyota uk have been getting a few popular British youtubers onboard.

    That's the price of a GTI in the UK.


  • #13
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    bazz26 wrote: »
    That car would probably cost over 40k here when you take into account our taxes. All Toyota Ireland want to do is sell hybrids to mass goers Mary and John who have virtually no interest in such cars.

    To be fair, any 260 bhp 4x4 will cost at least 40k new in Ireland.


  • #14
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Is there any indication that this model will even be offered outside of Japan?


  • #15
    ShadowHearth
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    I personally think it's fecking cool. Would be extremely fun car to scare all rep mobiles, who would see just a little ****y white Yaris.

    Obviously the cost is going to be a killer here and I doubt we will see a single one sold here.


  • #16
    zilog_jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Is there any indication that this model will even be offered outside of Japan?

    Yes: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/toyota-gr-yaris-hot-hatch-2020

    The example they've been showing off is LHD with Euro size plates, so very much looks like it's destined for Europe.


  • #17
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Is there any indication that this model will even be offered outside of Japan?

    Yes. The pricelist is available in Poland.


  • #18
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    And anyone looking for performance cars will most likely never consider a Yaris.

    Why? There is nothing wrong with small performance cars.

    Don't forget that 100 HP in a Yaris feels completely different than 100 HP in 7-series... The Up GTI has 115 HP and from what I hear, it is a fantastic car.


  • #19
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Any idea what the emissions are on it?


  • #20
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Any idea what the emissions are on it?

    Nada...


  • #21
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Any idea what the emissions are on it?

    184g/km preliminary,



    260bhp, 4wd with lsd, vcd & 1300kg


    It will be a fun little car i'd say.

    Can't help but think this is the kind of power the gt86 should have had..


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  • #22
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    RHD for Australia and NZ
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/118769610/hot-yaris-depends-on-aussie-choices


  • #23
    ianobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    I imagine that it'll be a riot to drive. When Toyota want to do a good car, they can (AE86, ST185 & ST205 GT4, MR-2, GT86, etc).

    I imagine they'll be a few sold here. If I was in the market for a 4WD turbo petrol, it'll be a nice alternative to the Golf R, Cupra R, M135, etc.


  • #24
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,752 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Sounds like a fun package.

    Remains to be seen whether it'll be imported or not, and if so, how good it'll be.


  • #25
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    184g/km preliminary,



    260bhp, 4wd with lsd, vcd & 1300kg


    It will be a fun little car i'd say.

    Can't help but think this is the kind of power the gt86 should have had..

    €750 tax and 30% VRT so.

    ianobrien wrote: »
    I imagine that it'll be a riot to drive. When Toyota want to do a good car, they can (AE86, ST185 & ST205 GT4, MR-2, GT86, etc).

    I imagine they'll be a few sold here. If I was in the market for a 4WD turbo petrol, it'll be a nice alternative to the Golf R, Cupra R, M135, etc.

    Do you think the fact that it’s a 3 door might actually go against it? Manufacturers have pretty much moved to 5 door even on a lot of performance stuff.


  • #26
    grogi
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    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Do you think the fact that it’s a 3 door might actually go against it? Manufacturers have pretty much moved to 5 door even on a lot of performance stuff.

    Yes, significantly.


  • #27
    ianobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Do you think the fact that it’s a 3 door might actually go against it? Manufacturers have pretty much moved to 5 door even on a lot of performance stuff.

    I was reading up on the blurb Toyota released. The ordinary Yaris is 5 door only. They went 3 door as that's what TMR wanted for the next rally car design (probably to shove the crew back for better weight distribution). It's the same reason that the rear was designed with input from TMR for aerodynamics on the future rally car.

    Most manufacturers are going to 5 door only so that they don't have the cost of engineering and certifying a 3 door that doesn't sell well.


  • #28
    CJhaughey
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    No body panels are the same as the 5 door, its quite different to the standard Yaris.
    1579027551791.jpg


  • #29
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I thought honestly I'd never say this about a Yaris but wow is it cool and isn't it one aggressive looking motor.

    That would be great on or off the track....


  • #30
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,472 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    No body panels are the same as the 5 door, its quite different to the standard Yaris.
    1579027551791.jpg

    Looks fantastic from that angle.


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  • #31
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    The Irish model is available this year.
    With Hybrid powertrain....
    https://www.toyota.ie/world-of-toyota/articles-news-events/2018/toyota-yaris-gr-sport.json


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