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Yaris GR - 260 BPH, 4x4 with LSD...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    This is kinda cheating in a way though, building a road car based on WRF rather than the other way around.

    All the best homologation specials are exactly that though -

    Cosworth Escort
    RS200
    Renault 5 Maxi
    Metro 6r4
    BX 4TC
    Stratos
    22B
    Etc...


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    This is kinda cheating in a way though, building a road car based on WRF rather than the other way around.

    Toyota are excellent at cheating, remember their blow off hose?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Some review of it here:

    https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/toyota/gr-yaris

    Christ I'd love one!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,619 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    bgo1 wrote: »
    The Irish price is now out according to a Dublin dealer:

    €50930 starting price.

    You'd get 2 Fiesta ST3's for that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    You'd get 2 Fiesta ST3's for that.

    Or 5 Dacia Sanderos


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Any idea what the emissions are on it?

    186g/km.

    So, €570 motortax, soon to be €750 I'd say.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Wailin


    171-190g is €750.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    galwaytt wrote: »
    186g/km.

    So, €570 motortax, soon to be €750 I'd say.

    Seriously? That's your biggest consideration?!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,619 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Or 5 Dacia Sanderos

    You are welcome to them 😂


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    You'd think being a motoring forum people would get the idea behind this car. But nope people are like "but its just a Yaris" :rolleyes: It's a bespoke car built from pretty much the ground up. Its not a tarted up version of a stock Yaris.

    GTFO out of here with talk of tax rates and other crap. People complain that all modern cars are boring and the same and Toyota does something different and the complaints roll in..

    I do understand but a Yaris....grrr


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  • Registered Users Posts: 42 DaveHumphreys


    Toyota can do great things when it puts its mind to it. The last Yaris GRMN was an ace thing. Also, there's been massive interest in this new GR Yaris. Here's our review of it: Toyota GR Yaris review on CompleteCar.ie


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,557 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    You'd get 2 Fiesta ST3's for that.

    And what good are two ST3s you can only drive one at a time and you can not put them together?
    Besides the Yaris GR is in a whole nother league compared to that Fiesta.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    AMKC wrote: »
    And what good are two ST3s you can only drive one at a time and you can not put them together?
    Besides the Yaris GR is in a whole nother league compared to that Fiesta.

    Put ones engine in boot of the other?


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 irishneo


    Yeap 51k 😂
    It’s only 33k in Germany there taking the piss here
    Can only imagine how much the GR Corolla will be here if they do one


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Tax here is an absolute killer.
    Such a pity to be honest as it seems they want to keep us at poverty spec and the roads full of absolute dirt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Tax here is an absolute killer.
    Such a pity to be honest as it seems they want to keep us at poverty spec and the roads full of absolute dirt.

    Don't blame the tax for this nonsense. VRT for it is 30% - if it costs €33k before VRT, the MSRP would be ~€44k.

    It seems TI is trying to milk the first interesting car they have since Celica. With such attitude no wonder they will not sell a single one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,120 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    grogi wrote: »
    Don't blame the tax for this nonsense. VRT for it is 30% - if it costs €33k before VRT, the MSRP would be ~€44k.

    It seems TI is trying to milk the first interesting car they have since Celica. With such attitude no wonder they will not sell a single one.

    You would think it would be in their interest to sell it at pretty much cost price to give the brand some much needed exposure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭route66


    Toyota can do great things when it puts its mind to it. The last Yaris GRMN was an ace thing. Also, there's been massive interest in this new GR Yaris. Here's our review of it: Toyota GR Yaris review on CompleteCar.ie

    Excellent review!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Tax here is an absolute killer.
    Such a pity to be honest as it seems they want to keep us at poverty spec and the roads full of absolute dirt.

    I completely agree with Lightning but your post is the hard reality. I love cars, anything with wheels really, but **** me it's hard to get excited when something like this costs absolute stupid money compared to other countries as posted above.

    Look at the huge cost increases on the new Golf R and GTI.

    Things like the Mégane GT 200hp dual clutch auto for €32k is gone, the i30N doesn't even have PCP and even the 150hp Ibiza is gone. We have such limited options for cars.

    The reality is most of us can't afford these cars because of the ridiculous pricing here, it's hard to really care or get excited. No doubt the Yaris is a cool car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Gets the Chris Harris seal of approval anyway, not that that's any surprise.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    bgo1 wrote: »
    The Irish price is now out according to a Dublin dealer:

    €50930 starting price.

    €58k I’m hearing from my mate in Toyota.
    Ireland allocation going to the Uk because of the pricing structure. We shall see 3 cars here at most.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I finally figured it out.

    GR-Line trims for the Corollas and CHRs etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I finally figured it out.

    GR-Line trims for the Corollas and CHRs etc.

    What about LUNA SPURT trim lines


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    What about LUNA SPURT trim lines

    No more sporty moons..Grrrrrr.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭knifey_spoonie


    grogi wrote: »
    Don't blame the tax for this nonsense. VRT for it is 30% - if it costs €33k before VRT, the MSRP would be ~€44k.

    It seems TI is trying to milk the first interesting car they have since Celica. With such attitude no wonder they will not sell a single one.

    Your wrong here,the VRT which is 31% is calculated on on the selling price here, also there is a 5% difference in VAT Rates. It works out at less than 1% of a price difference in RRP between Ireland & Germany when all taxation is taken into account. See below, Yes i am bored.

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    Pricing is as follows

    €50,750 Inc Dealer Delivery & 3 Year Service Pack

    Options Are: Which cannot be combined
    Lux Pack € 3,700

    ➢ Navigation
    ➢ JBL premium sound system with 8 speakers
    ➢ Head Up Display
    ➢ Front and rear parking sensors
    ➢ Blind Spot Monitor
    ➢ Rear Cross Traffic Alert with automatic braking
    ➢ Illuminated Entry system

    Circuit Pack € 6,700

    ➢ 18” forged alloy wheels (10 spoke)
    ➢ Red painted brake calipers
    ➢ GR circuit suspension
    ➢ LSD differential lock


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,120 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Must set a reminder in the phone for 3 years time to pick up one of the returned PCP cars from UK.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Your wrong here,the VRT which is 31%

    Band E is 30%.
    is calculated on on the selling price here

    It is calculated on top of OMSP (which is typically negotiated by the importer to be 90% of RRP), not RRP. You're right about the VAT tough.

    Taking all that into account, it comes at €47121.

    https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x+%3D+33000%2F1.18*1.23+%2B+x*0.9*0.3


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,113 ✭✭✭✭bazz26




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭knifey_spoonie


    grogi wrote: »
    Band E is 30%.



    It is calculated on top of OMSP (which is typically negotiated by the importer to be 90% of RRP), not RRP. You're right about the VAT tough.

    Taking all that into account, it comes at €47121.

    Not in 2021 when vehicles will be available and when pricing applies for.

    The OMSP is €47,168 so your not a million miles off too be fair. :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Not in 2021 when vehicles will be available and when pricing applies for.

    The OMSP is €47,168 so your not a million miles off too be fair. :D

    Will, erm, any Toyota dealers maybe be demoing one?


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