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Vegan Death Cult

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Did you know the person who made this video is in favour of allowing murder and rape of humans to be legal as it's natural?
    I assumed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Most of those folks just look a bit nuts and I assume cherry picked for the video. Not a vegan personally but there's a vegan lady at work and she's a 'normal' weight, very attractive in fact.

    This guy has been a vegan for a while also



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    seamus wrote: »
    I'm sure I could make a compilation of morbidly obese people on scooters and respirators and claim that it's evidence of how dangerous a non-vegan diet is.

    It'd be exactly as valid as the video in the op, and exactly as nonsensical.

    Kind of odd how people who have a problem with veganism are far louder and more obsessed about it than vegans themselves.

    Yup, those that make the biggest noise about what vegans are apparently like are the biggest whingers and are insufferable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Yup, those that make the biggest noise about what vegans are apparently like are the biggest whingers and are insufferable.

    And then those of course that make even bigger noise about those commenting on odd youtube videos about some random skinny vegsns - are apparently even bigger wingers and even more insufferable ...

    I not pyschic but I can see this thread going down the usual path of attempting to lynch all those nasty 'meat' eaters because fek it - they're responsible for everything and should all just stfu go away and die of being overweight or whatever

    But whatever happens let us not resort to gross generalisations and flinging ****e at everyone else :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    gozunda wrote: »
    Yup last time I checked this is boards and shock horror people post stuff. Maybe best report it if you think its outside ToU or otherwise rather than throwing crap around at all and sundry no?

    Leave the modding to us thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭hellsing101


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Did you know the person who made this video is in favour of allowing murder and rape of humans to be legal as it's natural?


    I actually watched a documentary on him last week, seems like an absolute loon, is into raw meat diet and was known to eat rotten meat also.


    On topic though I cant imagine a vegetable only diet is particularly healthy, modern humans have always been omnivores so its going against thousands of years of evolution, same goes for meat only diet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Did you know the person who made this video is in favour of allowing murder and rape of humans to be legal as it's natural?

    Not to generalise, but....all meat eaters hold that opinion ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Not to generalise, but....all meat eaters hold that opinion ;)

    Not to generalise but that would depend whether you believe the bs or otherwise ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/13/man-who-ate-raw-pigs-head-at-vegan-festival-stabbed-four-classmates-at-school-9184229/

    Racist. Stabbed classmates including a girl when he was 16. Flat earther. Eats dead squirrels and pigheads without preparation to shock people. Makes stupid videos to shock people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Doff


    Thats a pretty good name for a heavy metal band tbf.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    I actually watched a documentary on him last week, seems like an absolute loon, is into raw meat diet and was known to eat rotten meat also.


    On topic though I cant imagine a vegetable only diet is particularly healthy, modern humans have always been omnivores so its going against thousands of years of evolution, same goes for meat only diet.
    thousands of years of evolution huh? Jesus was a Homo Erectus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭hellsing101


    thousands of years of evolution huh? Jesus was a Homo Erectus?

    I'm sure your imagination is compelling evidence.


    I don't know or care enough about this to argue with on the topic, I'm sure there are plenty of others here who will, just suggesting one extreme or the other doesn't seem to be ideal as we have as a species been eating a mix of both for a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭quokula


    wakka12 wrote: »
    So stupid. You can be fat if you eat enough , and vegan diet is no exception, whats stopping somebody eating dozens of avocados or loads of olive oil or nuts or seeds which have huge amounts of calories? Theres no reason why a vegan diet would lead to malnourishment because of this bizarre anecdotal video

    It's not really anecdotal. Anecdotal is when you base something on personal experience which may not be representative. This is not based on personal experience, this is somebody with an agenda deliberately trawling online through who knows how many hours of footage to cherrypick some examples to fit their twisted worldview.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭MrAbyss


    The Vegans all become mentally ill because there is no B12 or animal fats to generate neural plasticity in the brain. They basically die because the brain and nervous systems dies.

    Anyone you know today who is a vegan will be dead within a decade or in a psyche ward.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    MrAbyss wrote: »
    The Vegans all become mentally ill because there is no B12 or animal fats to generate neural plasticity in the brain. They basically die because the brain and nervous systems dies.

    Anyone you know today who is a vegan will be dead within a decade or in a psyche ward.

    All?:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    MrAbyss wrote: »
    The Vegans all become mentally ill because there is no B12 or animal fats to generate neural plasticity in the brain. They basically die because the brain and nervous systems dies.

    Anyone you know today who is a vegan will be dead within a decade or in a psyche ward.

    Why do other people's diet bother you so much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    MrAbyss wrote: »
    The Vegans all become mentally ill because there is no B12 or animal fats to generate neural plasticity in the brain. They basically die because the brain and nervous systems dies.

    Anyone you know today who is a vegan will be dead within a decade or in a psyche ward.

    Healthy Plant-Based Diets Are Associated
    with Lower Risk of All-Cause Mortality
    in US Adults


    That's United States adults not us adults.
    I'm not being condescending.

    Condescending means having or showing an attitude of patronizing superiority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/13/man-who-ate-raw-pigs-head-at-vegan-festival-stabbed-four-classmates-at-school-9184229/

    Racist. Stabbed classmates including a girl when he was 16. Flat earther. Eats dead squirrels and pigheads without preparation to shock people. Makes stupid videos to shock people.

    And I've seen this guy used a lot on boards.ie by people with an anti vegan agenda.

    Says a lot about their lack of character to be honest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    On topic though I cant imagine a vegetable only diet is particularly healthy, modern humans have always been omnivores so its going against thousands of years of evolution, same goes for meat only diet.
    Thing is, there is a pretty common fallacy that at one point man was in a state of absolute harmony with his environment, from which we have strayed over time. I remember when I was young, my Ma claiming that our **** wouldn't smell if we ate properly, but modern foods made our **** stink.

    This isn't really any different.

    We evolved, over millions of years, to make good use of our environment. The organisms which can extract the most energy, most efficiently from their surroundings, are the ones which will propagate.

    This doesn't mean that the diet humans ate was perfect, was processed with perfect efficiency, or was the optimal use of the environment. It merely meant that the diet humans ate, and the way humans ate, allowed them to survive better than competitors, and live long enough to raise at least one (but probably two according to anthropology) generations of offspring.

    It doesn't mean that reverting to a prehistoric diet pattern is by default, better.
    It doesn't mean that a prehistoric diet didn't cause cancer (for example), merely that it didn't cause cancer quickly enough to prevent the organism from procreating.
    And it doesn't mean that a modified diet to include or exclude foodstuffs, cannot be better than a "traditional" diet.

    It's a form of the appeal to tradition fallacy, but it crops up so often in discussions on diet, that it probably deserves its own name.

    The reason humans are omnivores, is because our prehistoric diets were often massively suboptimal. And an omnivorous system allowed to us to make the best of a bad lot in harsh times. Being omnivores doesn't require us to eat a varied diet, quite the opposite; it allows our bodies to continue to function at a relatively high level when a varied diet is unavailable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    seamus wrote: »
    Kind of odd how people who have a problem with veganism are far louder and more obsessed about it than vegans themselves.
    I'd say a lot of these people are just fed up seeing vegan stuff constantly on the telly and social media, and are getting frustrated with it. You'd see guest chefs on programmes like The Six O'Clock Show, Sunday Brunch, Ireland AM doing vegan stuff a significant amount of the time, a lot higher than the percentage of vegans that are around, I reckon.
    Doff wrote: »
    Thats a pretty good name for a heavy metal band tbf.
    The band The Cult were originally called The Southern Death Cult so not too far off ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    gozunda wrote: »
    Not to generalise but that would depend whether you believe the bs or otherwise ;)


    Agreed but then you look at some of the comments made here and on any other vegan/meat eater threads. Its a bit mental really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    MrAbyss wrote: »
    There has never been a vegan society on earth ever.

    There's a Vegetarian Society, you see their V stamp on the back of many foodstuffs, so I'm sure there must be a Vegan Society somewhere...... 😉
    Don't be so blinkered in your perception.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Jains would be pretty close

    That would require research.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Unearthly wrote: »
    And I've seen this guy used a lot on boards.ie by people with an anti vegan agenda. Says a lot about their lack of character to be honest

    Nah Looks like he is just another crazy person making money out of youtube. There's loads of them on there. Not really surprising this guy gets attention tbh. And as for 'this alleged anti
    *fill in blank* agenda' - any sub group can complain of that if someone comments on just about anything tbh. But hey let's not generalise about peoples character eh ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Veganism is pretty hardcore in fairness. Imagine actually giving up cheese out of choice? A step too far for this poster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭MMXX


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    There's a Vegetarian Society, you see their V stamp on the back of many foodstuffs, so I'm sure there must be a Vegan Society somewhere...... ��
    Don't be so blinkered in your perception.
    I think he probably means human society has never been vegan, rather than there not having been a literal Vegan Society, of which I'm sure there are many.

    I just want to say to all the vegans out there, don't be stubborn - you're not right, come back, your ideas are good ideas, they're very admirable, and positive - and many other good things, but they're wrong - and you are too.

    It was cooking the meat we ate, with fire, hundreds of thousands of years ago - that led to the development of your brain, please use it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭MrAbyss


    https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/13/man-who-ate-raw-pigs-head-at-vegan-festival-stabbed-four-classmates-at-school-9184229/

    Racist. Stabbed classmates including a girl when he was 16. Flat earther. Eats dead squirrels and pigheads without preparation to shock people. Makes stupid videos to shock people.




    So he is a dick the guy who made the video.

    So therefore all the vegans in the video are actually healthy and look amazing?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭MrAbyss


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    There's a Vegetarian Society, you see their V stamp on the back of many foodstuffs, so I'm sure there must be a Vegan Society somewhere...... ��
    Don't be so blinkered in your perception.




    No idea what you are trying to imply? Because there is a society for veganism this makes it valid?

    BTW a mostly vegetarian diet is pretty excellent. Once they get their cheese and butter.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭MrAbyss


    mathie wrote: »
    Healthy Plant-Based Diets Are Associated
    with Lower Risk of All-Cause Mortality
    in US Adults


    That's United States adults not us adults.
    I'm not being condescending.

    Condescending means having or showing an attitude of patronizing superiority.


    Plant-Based diets is not exclusively veganism.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    MrAbyss wrote: »
    Plant-Based diets is not exclusively veganism.

    True.

    Going the step further towards veganism has additional benefits.
    This comprehensive meta-analysis reports a significant protective effect of a vegetarian diet versus the incidence and/or mortality from ischemic heart disease (-25%) and incidence from total cancer (-8%). Vegan diet conferred a significant reduced risk (-15%) of incidence from total cancer.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26853923


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