John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

Lads don't be fretting about John Delaney. He was only looking after himself. Just like Seanie Fitzpatrick, Bertie, Lowry and Dennis Ó,'Brien to mention a few of the heroes of ireland. We'l all give our opinion. Lots of hand-ringing from the great and good.

End result, John rides of into the sun with full pockets just like the rest.

Just forget about, it's the way of Ireland. Getting annoyed or angry is a waste of ur time!

jobeenfitz wrote: »

Lads don't be fretting about John Delaney. He was only looking after himself. Just like Seanie Fitzpatrick, Bertie, Lowry and Dennis Ó,'Brien to mention a few of the heroes of ireland. We'l all give our opinion. Lots of hand-ringing from the great and good.

End result, John rides of into the sun with full pockets just like the rest.

Just forget about, it's the way of Ireland. Getting annoyed or angry is a waste of ur time!

John is that you....trying to get the hype go cold??;):D

jobeenfitz wrote: »

Lads don't be fretting about John Delaney. He was only looking after himself. Just like Seanie Fitzpatrick, Bertie, Lowry and Dennis Ó,'Brien to mention a few of the heroes of ireland. We'l all give our opinion. Lots of hand-ringing from the great and good.

End result, John rides of into the sun with full pockets just like the rest.

Just forget about, it's the way of Ireland. Getting annoyed or angry is a waste of ur time!

I wouldn't be getting excited about Delaney either. It wasn't public money here was using our attempting to change public policy for his own benefit. I don't think there is any evidence to suggest that the publicly funded programmes weren't run.

I couldn't give two hoots if he ran the FAI into the ground. That's really none of our business, that's the business of the FAI members. And we shouldn't forget that they were happily supporting Delaney for years, despite the stink from the organization.

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

was thinking about it , he was always a grown child / teenager type . No CEO does the **** he did.

Drinking with the boys
Girlfriend at matches
Talking about his divorce in public
Jumping into bed with Barry Egan
Working his profile
Joking and girlfriend at Late Late
Drunk at work in Poland

It's kind of bizarre, how did he hang in there.

It's not bizarre at all.He surrounded himself with yes men.Anyone who was involved in the ousting of his father was sent packing within a few months of JD getting the job.Surround yourself with the people who are willing to turn a blind eye to everything going on once they are looked after it's no surprise he was able to hold power.

Talking of the **** he used to do in public to garner support/try get a rapport with fans.
He used to come onto the pitch at the end of away games and applaud the supporters, then throw his tie into the crowd. Alan Partridge levels of awkwardness

scout353 wrote: »

In all of this there has been no mention of the Finance Directors over recent years!

Mark O Leary
Eamon Breen
Tony Dignam
Alex O Connell

How did they not have knowledge of what was going on.

how many are left ?

Also have these guys professional backgrounds in Finance ?

yabadabado wrote: »

It's not bizarre at all.He surrounded himself with yes men.Anyone who was involved in the ousting of his father was sent packing within a few months of JD getting the job.Surround yourself with the people who are willing to turn a blind eye to everything going on once they are looked after it's no surprise he was able to hold power.

Talking of the **** he used to do in public to garner support/try get a rapport with fans.
He used to come onto the pitch at the end of away games and applaud the supporters, then throw his tie into the crowd. Alan Partridge levels of awkwardness

what did he want people to do with that?

Seth Brundle wrote: »

If there was two sets of accounts of very dodgy book keeping then the FDs would have known.
On the same note, the finance staff within the FAI would also have known.

I would think plenty of underlings in the fai knew or at least suspected what sort of things were happening. I think at this stage anything short of shutting it down and restarting as a new and seperate entity with all new administration would be a bad move.

jobeenfitz wrote: »

Lads don't be fretting about John Delaney. He was only looking after himself. Just like Seanie Fitzpatrick, Bertie, Lowry and Dennis Ó,'Brien to mention a few of the heroes of ireland. We'l all give our opinion. Lots of hand-ringing from the great and good.

End result, John rides of into the sun with full pockets just like the rest.

Just forget about, it's the way of Ireland. Getting annoyed or angry is a waste of ur time!

That's what people vote for. Every time. That PAC meeting from a couple of years back with Healy Rae and co. brown nosing Delaney sums the whole thing up.
If people want to vote for the local bigwig that has no interest in public service and is only in politics for what they themselves can get out of it, then it trickles down and you get chancers like this in many different parts of state bodies.

That said even by Irish standards of brass neck of Delaney is staggering

I have to wonder how many people here complaining about the FAI are or were members of affiliated soccer clubs.
Because if you're not a member, you've no right to demand changes to how a business operates, only that it acts lawfully.
I agree that the organisation appears to have been extremely poorly run, but that's their business. Every business has the right to run itself into the ground.

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I have to wonder how many people here complaining about the FAI are or were members of affiliated soccer clubs.
Because if you're not a member, you've no right to demand changes to how a business operates, only that it acts lawfully.
I agree that the organisation appears to have been extremely poorly run, but that's their business. Every business has the right to run itself into the ground.

They don't have the right to take money and spend it on themselves or give their partner money from the company.

artanevilla wrote: »

I think considering the amount of money the FAI gets from the state, ie, the taxpayer.

I would argue that everyone in Ireland has the right to demand changes to how the organization is run, particularly now as the state will likely foot the bill.

There is no suggestion that public funding was misappropriated. As far as I know all schemes that were funded or co funded by the taxpayer were run as agreed.

The Irish public therefore has no right to demand anything from the FAI as a private organisation other than it operate within the law. This is the same way as you have no right to set the wages of the local coffee shop, nor a right to demand that it isn't mismanaged.

Anyone can set up a soccer team and call it Ireland if they wish - and just because the FAI has done that, doesn't mean they have to be more accountable than any other company. That's why the oireachtas committee were only able to ask questions relating to the publicly funded programmes.

I doubt there'll be a publicly funded bailout btw. It would set an extremely dangerous precedent that a company that is not essential for the functioning of the state gets a rescue. The FAI are not a major utility or a bank, they are expendable.

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I have to wonder how many people here complaining about the FAI are or were members of affiliated soccer clubs.
Because if you're not a member, you've no right to demand changes to how a business operates, only that it acts lawfully.
I agree that the organisation appears to have been extremely poorly run, but that's their business. Every business has the right to run itself into the ground.

Rubbish. They’re not a private company. They’re publicly funded and are given the responsibility of fostering the game on behalf of Irish people.

That’s like saying if you’re not sick on a trolley you have no right to complain about the HSE.

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

Rubbish. They’re not a private company. They’re publicly funded and are given the responsibility of fostering the game on behalf of Irish people.

That’s like saying if you’re not sick on a trolley you have no right to complain about the HSE.

Everyone pays tax and everyone has a right to healthcare that is provided by the state for the common good.

The FAI on the other hand is a private organisation that receives some public money, but is largely privately funded - philanthropy, sponsorship, ticket sales, rent. It should of course be accountable for the spending of public money and controls are in place to ensure it is not misspent. However, when it comes to private money, it is only a matter for the members how that is spent, not the general public.
If the FAI want to use their funds, and take out loans to fill the Aviva with jelly beans, that's their business, and their business alone.

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

Rubbish. They’re not a private company. They’re publicly funded and are given the responsibility of fostering the game on behalf of Irish people.

That’s like saying if you’re not sick on a trolley you have no right to complain about the HSE.

The FAI is a private company, it just doesn't have shareholders and a primary goal of making a profit like normal companies.