John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

FixdePitchmark

Deleted User wrote: »

Remember when Delaney played out his mid life crisis in our national media and decided his love life was a matter of national importance...

https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/the-edge-john-delaney-and-emma-english-heating-up-marbella-30764240.html

This is when it was over for me.

Who the **** brings their girlfriend to work. Then crying about it on radio and late late .

What a wanker.

irishgeo

Umaro wrote: »

The FAI are heading to an Oireachtas Committee on Wednesday this week, here's my predictions for what'll happen:

• "we did the independent directors thing, give us our money now"
• absolutely no blame accepted or questions answered in a straightforward manner
• "so can we have our money now"
• "John Delaney? We accept that he made mistakes"
• "i remind you yet again, to give us our money now"
• "lets draw a line under the whole thing"
• "can we have our grants now"
• "its not my fault the wool was pulled over my eyes. i was merely a director at the time"
• "now, about the funding?"

They wont say **** all because of legal advice. The committee cant say much because of the report at the guards either.

Richard Hillman

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

This is when it was over for me.

Who the **** brings their girlfriend to work. Then crying about it on radio and late late .

What a wanker.

The media doesn't seem to be interested in investigating Emma English. She was given a job by Delaney, of which I imagine she wracked up a lot of expenses.

He used to bring her to everything. Games, draws, I even seen them on a Turkish Airlines flight from Istanbul, where they must have been arranging that Friendly in Turkey.

The fact that the media are saying nothing on her would suggest that she was one of those who flipped on him. I heard she dumped him just before Delaneys Castle started to crumble.

artanevilla

Deleted User wrote: »

Remember when Delaney played out his mid life crisis in our national media and decided his love life was a matter of national importance...

https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/the-edge-john-delaney-and-emma-english-heating-up-marbella-30764240.html

My life is worse for having read that article. Gutter journalism.

artanevilla

artanevilla wrote: »

My life is worse for having read that article. Gutter journalism.

A really unpleasant aspect of that entire s**tshow was his hawking the "I've finally find love" element around the media. You would think, out of some sense of decorum and simple respect, he'd have spared his ex wife and kids that much anyway.

yabadabado

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The media doesn't seem to be interested in investigating Emma English. She was given a job by Delaney, of which I imagine she wracked up a lot of expenses.

He used to bring her to everything. Games, draws, I even seen them on a Turkish Airlines flight from Istanbul, where they must have been arranging that Friendly in Turkey.

The fact that the media are saying nothing on her would suggest that she was one of those who flipped on him. I heard she dumped him just before Delaneys Castle started to crumble.

Had she any official role?

Other of her family were apparently given jobs in the association.

Afaik she hasnt dumped him or at least hadn't upto when this started so don't think this was one of the people who leaked info.

scout353

No Appearance at Oireachtas Hearing as they are too busy rescuing themselves!



The Board of the Football Association of Ireland has this morning informed the Joint Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport that it is unable to accept an invitation to appear before the Committee on Wednesday, December 11th.

The focus of the Board at this moment in time remains the refinancing package that will guarantee the future of the FAI and safeguard jobs, as well as the appointment of an Independent Chairperson and Independent Directors.

As key Board members and senior executive staff are required at meetings vital to the financial restructuring and the appointment of an Independent Chairperson, it is not possible for the FAI to appear before the Oireachtas Committee on this occasion.

The Board remains committed to appearing before the Committee on a date when the appropriate representatives are available.

Irishmale0399

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

The actual names of people who approved his whatever million loyalty scam, need to be named.

They all but blamed Murray and Coady for it....the 2 who retired when this all started.


Too convienient and not good enough. What is needed is an open statement which explains what the FAI directors seen as their role with the structure and an explanation to why not knowing is OK...

Irishmale0399

scout353 wrote: »

No Appearance at Oireachtas Hearing as they are too busy rescuing themselves!



The Board of the Football Association of Ireland has this morning informed the Joint Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport that it is unable to accept an invitation to appear before the Committee on Wednesday, December 11th.

The focus of the Board at this moment in time remains the refinancing package that will guarantee the future of the FAI and safeguard jobs, as well as the appointment of an Independent Chairperson and Independent Directors.

As key Board members and senior executive staff are required at meetings vital to the financial restructuring and the appointment of an Independent Chairperson, it is not possible for the FAI to appear before the Oireachtas Committee on this occasion.

The Board remains committed to appearing before the Committee on a date when the appropriate representatives are available.

In other words...we will get a grilling and it will result in negitive press whilst dealing with banks and selling them a donkey. Better stay away and say nothing than face the music or face reality Mr. Conway......all a bit familiar...

Umaro

scout353 wrote: »

No Appearance at Oireachtas Hearing as they are too busy rescuing themselves!

What an absolute piss take. This was 48 hours ago:



They've found out they're not going to be welcomed back with open arms and a "u ok hun?" and they've chucked it in.

They have not changed a bit. And they will not change EVER.

Irishmale0399

What a difference a week makes...wonder if they have the answers to the questions they owe the committee?? 5 months later and they still havent answered all questions they promised they would.

https://twitter.com/FAIreland/status/1203747641579970565

Seth Brundle

FAI accounts claim they have €4 mill worth of PCs & Printers and stuff...
https://twitter.com/caesarLopez/status/1202943768439209984


For their sterling auditing skills, Deloitte were paid handsomely...

lawred2

Umaro wrote: »

What an absolute piss take. This was 48 hours ago:



They've found out they're not going to be welcomed back with open arms and a "u ok hun?" and they've chucked it in.

They have not changed a bit. And they will not change EVER.

Dissolution is the only answer. It's a poisonous organisation and these lads will do their best to hide behind the low to averagely paid staffers... can't be allowed to happen.

FixdePitchmark

lawred2 wrote: »

Dissolution is the only answer. It's a poisonous organisation and these lads will do their best to hide behind the low to averagely paid staffers... can't be allowed to happen.

how would a new organisation start and how would transfer of likes of offices and facilities happen?

Some mess.

Anyone want to try a name

Irish Soccer Association or SAI
IFA nice but gone.
Irish Equal Football Association

Irish Not Evil Football Association
The John Delaney memorial Fund Association

Probably best to keep as is , with total clean out .

A certain % from outside, certainly the letters of support he got in his dying days would make you worried about the irish soccer Associations across the country.

I was reading a good bit of stuff about Delaney last night.

It is fair to say he knew how to play the game at the top table , things were coming to Ireland by his efforts and it is fair to say , he did actually place us reasonably well in international soccer.

Unfortunately he changed , seen how it all works at the top and went with it.

He is in a way a product of the way soccer is corrupted at the top too. It isn't as simple as Irish "Gombenisim". I wonder did he have to pay money to get Euros here.

This is probably the horrible truth , his exit to an international body , probably would have been the best outcome.

I hate myself posting that, but it is a big bad world out there in soccer. Even the Germans played the game.

yabadabado

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

how would a new organisation start and how would transfer of likes of offices and facilities happen?

Some mess.

Anyone want to try a name

Irish Soccer Association or SAI
IFA nice but gone.
Irish Equal Football Association

Irish Not Evil Football Association
The John Delaney memorial Fund Association

Probably best to keep as is , with total clean out .

A certain % from outside, certainly the letters of support he got in his dying days would make you worried about the irish soccer Associations across the country.

I was reading a good bit of stuff about Delaney last night.

It is fair to say he knew how to play the game at the top table , things were coming to Ireland by his efforts and it is fair to say , he did actually place us reasonably well in international soccer.

Unfortunately he changed , seen how it all works at the top and went with it.

He is in a way a product of the way soccer is corrupted at the top too. It isn't as simple as Irish "Gombenisim". I wonder did he have to pay money to get Euros here.

This is probably the horrible truth , his exit to an international body , probably would have been the best outcome.

I hate myself posting that, but it is a big bad world out there in soccer. Even the Germans played the game.

JD did little to nothing to improve our standing in football. The few things that have came to Ireland since he got the job aren't exactly mind blowing, look at other countries that got tournaments etc in the last 20 years. It's not a great achievement of his.

He ****ed the job up big time with the 10 year ticket mess,surrounded himself with yes men and did what he liked .

I'd safely say the FAI would be in a better place now if he had never got in the doors of the FAI.

FixdePitchmark

yabadabado wrote: »

JD did little to nothing to improve our standing in football. The few things that have came to Ireland since he got the job aren't exactly mind blowing, look at other countries that got tournaments etc in the last 20 years. It's not a great achievement of his.

He ****ed the job up big time with the 10 year ticket mess,surrounded himself with yes men and did what he liked .

I'd safely say the FAI would be in a better place now if he had never got in the doors of the FAI.

I'm angry too

but who have held events you'll find the have fairly developed domestic leagues and facilities.

look I hate John Delaney.

But stadium situation has massively improved
FAI facilities
Training Facilities
Corporate Side
Under Age structures

Someone could say I'm wrong , but to the general public it looks to have improved (except LOI)

I could be wild off thd mark , but going back to the 90s soccer had nothing in Ireland.
Nobody could have dreamed of holding anything here .

Zebra3

yabadabado wrote: »

JD did little to nothing to improve our standing in football. The few things that have came to Ireland since he got the job aren't exactly mind blowing, look at other countries that got tournaments etc in the last 20 years. It's not a great achievement of his.

He ****ed the job up big time with the 10 year ticket mess,surrounded himself with yes men and did what he liked .

I'd safely say the FAI would be in a better place now if he had never got in the doors of the FAI.

Welcome to 2010.

yabadabado

I'm on the mobile so cant really link but I'll have a look later on if no one else does but his list of achievements are slim at best.

Stadium is on a 60 year lease basically which could be ended very soon.
FAI facilities?
If its Abbotstown then that isnt theirs and its rented afaik from SI or similar.
Training facilities, are pretty low standard bar what's rented for senior team.

Corporate governance is non existent.

The underage teams are starting to show promise and work has gone into them.Dont forget we had some excellent youth teams previously .I'm not sure what input JD would have had.


The tournaments we can hold are youth teams and take a look at the other countries who held similar in the past 10 years.Dont have to be any major power to do it.

dr.kenneth noisewater

The problem with disbanding the FAI and starting a fresh organisation is that people will still lose their jobs. It worked for the OCI as they had a low amount of direct staff

salmocab

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I'm angry too

but who have held events you'll find the have fairly developed domestic leagues and facilities.

look I hate John Delaney.

But stadium situation has massively improved
FAI facilities
Training Facilities
Corporate Side
Under Age structures

Someone could say I'm wrong , but to the general public it looks to have improved (except LOI)

I could be wild off thd mark , but going back to the 90s soccer had nothing in Ireland.
Nobody could have dreamed of holding anything here .

The issue in this is yes some things have improved but that was mainly because the country was booming and we were flush with cash for a lot of his tenure. Things would have improved if my dog was in charge but things could have improved a whole lot more if someone competent was running the show. Outside factors drove improvement not the fool steering the ship with his hand firmly in the pursers pocket.

salmocab

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

The problem with disbanding the FAI and starting a fresh organisation is that people will still lose their jobs. It worked for the OCI as they had a low amount of direct staff

I’ll be honest it would be a shame for a lot of them to lose their jobs but that’s not good enough a reason to keep it open or even to let it limp along.

CrabRevolution

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I'm angry too

but who have held events you'll find the have fairly developed domestic leagues and facilities.

look I hate John Delaney.

But stadium situation has massively improved
FAI facilities
Training Facilities
Corporate Side
Under Age structures

Someone could say I'm wrong , but to the general public it looks to have improved (except LOI)

I could be wild off thd mark , but going back to the 90s soccer had nothing in Ireland.
Nobody could have dreamed of holding anything here .

You're claiming that an organisation that has had its government funding suspended, has had several audits and reviews ordered over how badly it is run, is constantly in the media for lack of governance and control, has had to receive a 10 figure bailout from UEFA, is unable to meet its day to day outgoings, and is on the verge of receivership has improved its corporate side?

Also, it'd be a shame for FAI employees to lose their jobs, but I don't see why this should override all good policy and practice. Companies go bust every day and people lose their jobs without the same level of sympathy. Plus there'd be a Continuity FAI set up within a day which could be funded by the government and save some of the jobs.

BDI

salmocab wrote: »

I’ll be honest it would be a shame for a lot of them to lose their jobs but that’s not good enough a reason to keep it open or even to let it limp along.

I’m sure they can apply for the new roles which isn’t great coming up to Christmas.

I have a feeling it will be found that there is plenty of hard workers and a few friends of friends that might not actually be needed if it is restructured.

Probably get severance from fai then job back in new organisation the next day.

joeysoap

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I'm angry too

but who have held events you'll find the have fairly developed domestic leagues and facilities.

look I hate John Delaney.

But stadium situation has massively improved
FAI facilities
Training Facilities
Corporate Side
Under Age structures

Someone could say I'm wrong , but to the general public it looks to have improved (except LOI)

I could be wild off thd mark , but going back to the 90s soccer had nothing in Ireland.
Nobody could have dreamed of holding anything here .

He treated the LOI with complete contempt. ( as do Mooney, Conway etc) no TV money whatsoever for TV coverage . It wouldn’t have been big anyway but how can LOI clubs be expected to compete with say Cypriot clubs who (relatively speaking) get decent TV money? Not one cent- even for live matches.

As for stadiums, Derry, Shamrock Rovers, Bohemians, Shelbourne, all play in stadiums owned by Councils. Waterford and Cork rent theirs off the owners. Dundalk lease theirs.

Dots1982

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

The problem with disbanding the FAI and starting a fresh organisation is that people will still lose their jobs. It worked for the OCI as they had a low amount of direct staff

Its one problem, there are many others.

joeysoap

joeysoap wrote: »

He treated the LOI with complete contempt.

Wasn't he on the pi55 in Poland when Monaghan United went to the wall in 2012? He didn't even have the decency to take an evening off the beer and give some indication that he was concerned, or upset for those who lost their jobs. Tbh, that was the snapping point for me. Even if he felt, as many did, that it really was all their fault, he should have at least had the decency to grasp the urgency, fly back, be seen to do the right thing.

Zebra3

joeysoap wrote: »

He treated the LOI with complete contempt. ( as do Mooney, Conway etc) no TV money whatsoever for TV coverage . It wouldn’t have been big anyway but how can LOI clubs be expected to compete with say Cypriot clubs who (relatively speaking) get decent TV money? Not one cent- even for live matches.

As for stadiums, Derry, Shamrock Rovers, Bohemians, Shelbourne, all play in stadiums owned by Councils. Waterford and Cork rent theirs off the owners. Dundalk lease theirs.

Waterford is council owned too afaik.

FixdePitchmark

CrabRevolution wrote: »

You're claiming that an organisation that has had its government funding suspended, has had several audits and reviews ordered over how badly it is run, is constantly in the media for lack of governance and control, has had to receive a 10 figure bailout from UEFA, is unable to meet its day to day outgoings, and is on the verge of receivership has improved its corporate side?

Also, it'd be a shame for FAI employees to lose their jobs, but I don't see why this should override all good policy and practice. Companies go bust every day and people lose their jobs without the same level of sympathy. Plus there'd be a Continuity FAI set up within a day which could be funded by the government and save some of the jobs.

yes sorry

I was really talking about , sponsorship and interaction with external stakeholders and corporate experience in stadium ?

Your absolutely right about their own corporate side and in addition their media interactions were appalling.

Just An Opinion

I may have missed it in the shïtstorm but where has Rea Walshe ended up?

Irishmale0399

Just An Opinion wrote: »

I may have missed it in the shïtstorm but where has Rea Walshe ended up?

She has remained as the FAI company secretary and was speaking to the press today...