John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

kippy

Deleted User wrote: »

No post in over 12.hours. In that time, people have posted about Leeds, Newcastle, Aston Villa, presume dozens of times on the Liverpool and ManU threads, about a host of issues and incidents relating to the game in England and nothing about the biggest crisis to hit our own national association.

Whats posting about it gonna solve? I am lobbying my local TD's to ensure this isn't the end of it for JD and pals.

FixdePitchmark

Deleted User wrote: »

No post in over 12.hours. In that time, people have posted about Leeds, Newcastle, Aston Villa, presume dozens of times on the Liverpool and ManU threads, about a host of issues and incidents relating to the game in England and nothing about the biggest crisis to hit our own national association.

I'm absolutely shocked at lack of posting myself.

minor changes in a fairly passive sport like golf and massive threads with very strong opinions and inside knowledge.

Biggest thing to happen in association football and very little. Few ideas , anyone with an opinion is kind of shut down.

meanwhile lads going on about Celtic and Rangers.

I'm still livid and only a fan (go to games) not involved in soccer formally.

There must be a social media ban in FAI ?

Besides that , great insight into why soccer has so many problems in Ireland here.

People actually accept it the way it is , kind of a working class subjugation.

People would want to get energised from ground up and look at GAA and Rugby set up.

They aren't even bothered posting an opinion, more talk about VAR in United game instead.

FixdePitchmark

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I think it’s because at this stage you resign yourself as to how this country works. Everyone in the FAI will remain, they’ll be bailed out, and they’ll continue to be on the take for years to come. What’s the point?

that's the spirit.

Imagine that attitude in 1916.

Its Easter, I like chocolate, it's just a post office.

what's the point.

FixdePitchmark

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

that's the spirit.

Imagine that attitude in 1916.

Its Easter, I like chocolate, it's just a post office.

what's the point.

Yeah that’s the same.

johnnyryan89

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I think it’s because at this stage you resign yourself as to how this country works. Everyone in the FAI will remain, they’ll be bailed out, and they’ll continue to be on the take for years to come. What’s the point?

This is where it gets messy because we don't know whose gonna bail them out. UEFA have already given them like 15m to help keep them afloat, can UEFA afford to keep giving them money to stay afloat. Will FIFA come in and bail them out.

Government can't and shouldn't bail them out unless there is root and branch reforms on how the FAI operate.

FixdePitchmark

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Yeah that’s the same.

it's an exaggerated analogy for effect.

Your talking about the reformation of irish soccer.

there would want to be a bit more energy about the place.

FixdePitchmark

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

it's an exaggerated analogy for effect.

Your talking about the reformation of irish soccer.

there would want to be a bit more energy about the place.

Look at how the ringleader and the cronies got away with running the country into a hole without consequence. So there’s nothing to suggest similar cronies won’t get away with running a sport into a hole. The corruption is too ingrained now to ever change.

FixdePitchmark

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Look at how the ringleader and the cronies got away with running the country into a hole without consequence. So there’s nothing to suggest similar cronies won’t get away with running a sport into a hole. The corruption is too ingrained now to ever change.

so start new.

you actually dont have to look far for a model to restructure to.

They actually share a stadium with IRFU.
Gaa headquarters in Dublin too.

For the money they pay poor enough management, you actually could take on world class administrators from likes of

Spain
Belgium
UK
Germany
A Scandinavian country

Would be a fantastic project for someone. Even a female administrator would possibly be cheaper (just market forces, not sexism I hope) and could be a fantastic new direction.

let's br honest, you couldn't do worse. You wouldn't even need someone from a soccer background.

Like Garda, you should probably avoid anyone who worked in FAI before.

It can be done.

topmanamillion

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

This is where it gets messy because we don't know whose gonna bail them out. UEFA have already given them like 15m to help keep them afloat, can UEFA afford to keep giving them money to stay afloat. Will FIFA come in and bail them out.

Government can't and shouldn't bail them out unless there is root and branch reforms on how the FAI operate.

Under no circumstances should the government bail out a bankrupt football association.
The government have come up with a system to circumvent the FAI and give grants directly to grassroots and women's football. I'm happy with that.
It's up to UEFA and FIFA to bail out one of their football associations. I reckon they will. They've already given €15 million and there'll be more to follow.
UEFA give something like €2 billion a year in prize money to clubs. They can well afford to sub the FAI more money.

FixdePitchmark

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

so start new.

you actually dont have to look far for a model to restructure to.

They actually share a stadium with IRFU.
Gaa headquarters in Dublin too.

For the money they pay poor enough management, you actually could take on world class administrators from likes of

Spain
Belgium
UK
Germany
A Scandinavian country

Would be a fantastic project for someone. Even a female administrator would possibly be cheaper (just market forces, not sexism I hope) and could be a fantastic new direction.

let's br honest, you couldn't do worse. You wouldn't even need someone from a soccer background.

Like Garda, you should probably avoid anyone who worked in FAI before.

It can be done.

That’s all well and good but there’s no way of removing the people that are there if they don’t want to go, and they seem to have the brass neck to stay there. There’s no starting again without being able to end what’s there already.

FixdePitchmark

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

That’s all well and good but there’s no way of removing the people that are there if they don’t want to go, and they seem to have the brass neck to stay there. There’s no starting again without being able to end what’s there already.

A complete boycott of international games.

And refusing to give them a penny.

I mean, I'm only brain storming. Buf you can always do something, a load of brainless idiots stopped water charges .
we now hardly have water and we have sewage in rivers and see.

you can change things.

beertons

Serious question, no laughing please.

Can we walk into our local garda station tomorrow and ask them to arrest John Delaney?

FixdePitchmark

beertons wrote: »

Serious question, no laughing please.

Can we walk into our local garda station tomorrow and ask them to arrest John Delaney?

what is his crime?

There is nothing yet on him .

Tax probably closest hope.

Irishmale0399

Lads the only way to get rid of the hangers on is to do the following;

1. Lobby your local TD, complete change is needed
2. Keep them in their money problems by not giving them a penny
3. Keep sharing all the articles as they come online to ensure the pressure continues

Regardless of what these people say, they didnt do anything about the problem when they were in power. In fact by sticking their heads in the sand they aided JD and his racket.

Richard Hillman

A Boycott of Ireland home games should have happened at least 10 years ago. There were too many superfans that wanted to say "I havent missed a home game since nineteen dickety dux" or "I'll support my country, no matter wah".

I haven't been to a home game in New Lansdowne Road. I've been offered free or reduced price tickets many times but I won't entertain the Delaneys FAI with my presence. Now that Delaney is gone, I will go back. It was a stolen decade.

FixdePitchmark

Richard Hillman wrote: »

A Boycott of Ireland home games should have happened at least 10 years ago. There were too many superfans that wanted to say "I havent missed a home game since nineteen dickety dux" or "I'll support my country, no matter wah".

I haven't been to a home game in New Lansdowne Road. I've been offered free or reduced price tickets many times but I won't entertain the Delaneys FAI with my presence. Now that Delaney is gone, I will go back. It was a stolen decade.

something like this is spot on.

I'm sorry to say , the fans and Irish soccer dont get out of this totally clean.

Dots1982

Governments respond to votes. When the realization dawns on Joe Public that without a bailout we may cease to be to able to play in international competitions then public pressure may force the government to take on the FAI’s position on the Aviva and rent it to the FAI for games at a generous rate. Then again maybe public pressure won’t materialize but I think it will.

UEFA have generously given us an advance of is it 7 or 15 million? They’ve done their part. If we fold it’s a pity for UEFA but it isn’t a tragedy.

FixdePitchmark

Dots1982 wrote: »

Governments respond to votes. When the realization dawns on Joe Public that without a bailout we may cease to be to able to play in international competitions then public pressure may force the government to take on the FAI’s position on the Aviva and rent it to the FAI for games at a generous rate. Then again maybe public pressure won’t materialize but I think it will.

UEFA have generously given us an advance of is it 7 or 15 million? They’ve done their part. If we fold it’s a pity for UEFA but it isn’t a tragedy.

That is a derivative of nationalising.

Was laughed at for suggesting last night.

Dots1982

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

That is a derivative of nationalising.

Was laughed at for suggesting last night.

I wouldn’t really use the term nationalizing. Id imagine a load of countries play their games in stadiums that the government built for them for free. You think the Polish FA built that massive stadium in Warsaw out of their own funds?

It’s just words anyway.

FixdePitchmark

Dots1982 wrote: »

I wouldn’t really use the term nationalizing. Id imagine a load of countries play their games in stadiums that the government built for them for free. You think the Polish FA built that massive stadium in Warsaw out of their own funds?

It’s just words anyway.

But this would be different as a take over as something they have no stake in at all ?

Unless was stadium granted originally?

here is definition.

VERB
If a government nationalizes a private company or industry, that company or industry becomes owned by the state and controlled by the government

Irishmale0399

Dots1982 wrote: »

I wouldn’t really use the term nationalizing. Id imagine a load of countries play their games in stadiums that the government built for them for free. You think the Polish FA built that massive stadium in Warsaw out of their own funds?

It’s just words anyway.

You still on the FAI payroll??


There is more chance of the government joining the UK post Brexit than there is of them bailing out the FAI at this moment in time. The sooner the gobsh1tes in Abbotstown realise that the better for everyone. No one wants to see any of JDs aids connected in any way to the future FAI. Being a board member with your head in the sand doesnt make you any less guilty than the ones who aided him to get his contracts through. These people should have been knocking on his door daily asking questions, however Mr. Conway just sat back and let him get on with it. As for his security gobsh1te....will be interesting to see if Super Glue is still part of the FAI, he is the face of everything that was wrong with the old guard.

Oat23

Richard Hillman wrote: »

A Boycott of Ireland home games should have happened at least 10 years ago. There were too many superfans that wanted to say "I havent missed a home game since nineteen dickety dux" or "I'll support my country, no matter wah".

I haven't been to a home game in New Lansdowne Road. I've been offered free or reduced price tickets many times but I won't entertain the Delaneys FAI with my presence. Now that Delaney is gone, I will go back. It was a stolen decade.

Why go back when nothing has changed? Apart from Delaney everyone else culpable is, unbelievably, still in a job.

I'll go back if the FAI fold and a new association is founded. The FAI, with or without Delaney, isn't getting a cent from me to put towards paying off the debt these goons built up.

Dots1982

Dots1982 wrote: »

Governments respond to votes. When the realization dawns on Joe Public that without a bailout we may cease to be to able to play in international competitions then public pressure may force the government to take on the FAI’s position on the Aviva and rent it to the FAI for games at a generous rate. Then again maybe public pressure won’t materialize but I think it will.

I think the opposite. I think Delaney and FAI have run the game so badly that bailing out the latter would be a vote loser. It's at the stage now where I see even fans of the sport who are indifferent or even support the idea of the whole operation being wound up and the national side sit out a tournament or 2. I think the only sympathy is reserved for the employees and the League of Ireland, but the League was due to move away from the FAI anyway.

FixdePitchmark

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

You still on the FAI payroll??


There is more chance of the government joining the UK post Brexit than there is of them bailing out the FAI at this moment in time. The sooner the gobsh1tes in Abbotstown realise that the better for everyone. No one wants to see any of JDs aids connected in any way to the future FAI. Being a board member with your head in the sand doesnt make you any less guilty than the ones who aided him to get his contracts through. These people should have been knocking on his door daily asking questions, however Mr. Conway just sat back and let him get on with it. As for his security gobsh1te....will be interesting to see if Super Glue is still part of the FAI, he is the face of everything that was wrong with the old guard.

The actual names of people who approved his whatever million loyalty scam, need to be named.

Trampas

Not get their good honest friend Denis to give them some pocket money

Umaro

The FAI are heading to an Oireachtas Committee on Wednesday this week, here's my predictions for what'll happen:

• "we did the independent directors thing, give us our money now"
• absolutely no blame accepted or questions answered in a straightforward manner
• "so can we have our money now"
• "John Delaney? We accept that he made mistakes"
• "i remind you yet again, to give us our money now"
• "lets draw a line under the whole thing"
• "can we have our grants now"
• "its not my fault the wool was pulled over my eyes. i was merely a director at the time"
• "now, about the funding?"

FixdePitchmark

Umaro wrote: »

The FAI are heading to an Oireachtas Committee on Wednesday this week, here's my predictions for what'll happen:

• "we did the independent directors thing, give us our money now"
• absolutely no blame accepted or questions answered in a straightforward manner
• "so can we have our money now"
• "John Delaney? We accept that he made mistakes"
• "i remind you yet again, to give us our money now"
• "lets draw a line under the whole thing"
• "can we have our grants now"
• "its not my fault the wool was pulled over my eyes. i was merely a director at the time"
• "now, about the funding?"

where was that announced ?

I'll get the popcorn.

Umaro

Umaro wrote: »

The FAI are heading to an Oireachtas Committee on Wednesday this week, here's my predictions for what'll happen:

• "we did the independent directors thing, give us our money now"
• absolutely no blame accepted or questions answered in a straightforward manner
• "so can we have our money now"
• "John Delaney? We accept that he made mistakes"
• "i remind you yet again, to give us our money now"
• "lets draw a line under the whole thing"
• "can we have our grants now"
• "its not my fault the wool was pulled over my eyes. i was merely a director at the time"
• "now, about the funding?"

"We all partied"

Remember when Delaney played out his mid life crisis in our national media and decided his love life was a matter of national importance...

https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/the-edge-john-delaney-and-emma-english-heating-up-marbella-30764240.html

FixdePitchmark

will they just pull the , on basis of legal advice we cant talk about john Delaney.

if they pull any line like that

**** them out