Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

Some interesting motions being put forward for the convention.

emergingstar wrote: »

Interesting, surely the all county league from Feb to July is a no brainer

The county league fixtures should be set in January and started in February, playing every 2nd week hurling and football.
The times should be the same every weekend, maybe 6:30 on a Saturday evening if teams have lights or earlier if they don’t or Sunday morning.

Take a break for April when there will more than likely be championship.

Groups of 6 would be ideal so 10 matches would be played between February and June. Play the semi-finals and final in July then. It’s surely common sense?

And if all goes well, have relegation and promotion be introduced and you could have intermediate teams playing Division 1/2 if they’re good enough which is possible when senior teams play without county players.

Imagine a club player having 10 guaranteed 10 matches like every other county???

upthedeise16 wrote: »

The county league fixtures should be set in January and started in February, playing every 2nd week hurling and football.
The times should be the same every weekend, maybe 6:30 on a Saturday evening if teams have lights or earlier if they don’t or Sunday morning.

Take a break for April when there will more than likely be championship.

Groups of 6 would be ideal so 10 matches would be played between February and June. Play the semi-finals and final in July then. It’s surely common sense?

And if all goes well, have relegation and promotion be introduced and you could have intermediate teams playing Division 1/2 if they’re good enough which is possible when senior teams play without county players.

Imagine a club player having 10 guaranteed 10 matches like every other county???

This actually sounds ideal, players would love it

upthedeise16 wrote: »

The county league fixtures should be set in January and started in February, playing every 2nd week hurling and football.
The times should be the same every weekend, maybe 6:30 on a Saturday evening if teams have lights or earlier if they don’t or Sunday morning.

Take a break for April when there will more than likely be championship.

Groups of 6 would be ideal so 10 matches would be played between February and June. Play the semi-finals and final in July then. It’s surely common sense?

And if all goes well, have relegation and promotion be introduced and you could have intermediate teams playing Division 1/2 if they’re good enough which is possible when senior teams play without county players.

Imagine a club player having 10 guaranteed 10 matches like every other county???

Idea is sound. I've played in a similar structure outside Waterford and played roughly 25-30 competitive games in a season in one code - players absolutely love it. League groups were much bigger and operated without home and away. The Saturday night games start after the clocks change and they're great social occasions in the clubs. Supporters turn up and get in and around the club, players go for a couple of pints afterwards.

The issue I'd have is starting in February and the pause in April.

'April for Clubs' is a farce. County players are parachuted into teams last minute. Club players have to do two pre-seasons - one for the championship games in April and a second whenever championship starts again. The county teams the same. Flying after the league, asked to stop everything for a month and then go back into more pre-season type championship prep afterwards - absolute nonsense.

We'd be far better off with playing the intercounty games through April, and starting club leagues in March or April without those guys. Let the All Ireland finals take place at the end of July, and let the club championships start in July or August.

This would be fairer on all players, club and county, and give more defined seasons for both. Currently a huge proportion of county players are togging 12 months of the year and club players about 10. There's far too much running around cones under lights in slop and there's really no need for it.

I'm sure a more condensed season starting in spring might reduce costs for clubs also.

hardybuck wrote: »

Idea is sound. I've played in a similar structure outside Waterford and played roughly 25-30 competitive games in a season in one code - players absolutely love it. League groups were much bigger and operated without home and away. The Saturday night games start after the clocks change and they're great social occasions in the clubs. Supporters turn up and get in and around the club, players go for a couple of pints afterwards.

The issue I'd have is starting in February and the pause in April.

'April for Clubs' is a farce. County players are parachuted into teams last minute. Club players have to do two pre-seasons - one for the championship games in April and a second whenever championship starts again. The county teams the same. Flying after the league, asked to stop everything for a month and then go back into more pre-season type championship prep afterwards - absolute nonsense.

We'd be far better off with playing the intercounty games through April, and starting club leagues in March or April without those guys. Let the All Ireland finals take place at the end of July, and let the club championships start in July or August.

This would be fairer on all players, club and county, and give more defined seasons for both. Currently a huge proportion of county players are togging 12 months of the year and club players about 10. There's far too much running around cones under lights in slop and there's really no need for it.

I'm sure a more condensed season starting in spring might reduce costs for clubs also.

That's true buts that's up to Croke Park to change, the board ned to set competitions into whatever space they have for clubs

Many - if not most - other counties have been running well-organised multi-division leagues for decades. Is it beyond the County Board to do a survey of these other counties and come up with an appropriate structure for Waterford, rather than just making it up as they go along? Waterford is really in the dark ages in terms of providing bread-and-butter competitive games for its club players.

mountgomery burns wrote: »

I like the 8 team league suggestion. To be honest, it's harder for all teams to compete on a level playing field even moreso for the league so narrowing down the numbers in each league and increasing its competitiveness is a good idea and hopefully it's adopted.

As has been mentioned here at length, the league's need a revamp badly in Waterford.

The clubs and players are to blame for alot of it, getting matches called off for 21st birthdays, holidays, stag weekends , every excuse under the sun, look how long it took the senior football championship to finish, two teams held it up for weeks, couldn't make the draw for the next round, inter hurling lge final was never played, Waterford junior lge you get your fixtures you play them end of story

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Shane Bennett has opted out of the panel 2020. It seems The 3 Bennetts were called for county training 2 nights after Ballysaggart Munster final loss, and while Stephen and Kieran went, Shane didn’t and has since told Cahill he dosent want to be involved.

Disappointing hopefully if we are doing well he might reconsider.

Cant wait for the new season, could be a great season if Cahill reaches his potential as manager and the players buy into it

A team like this could do damage but obv way to early to judge and this is done pure on reputation

Soky
S McNulty
C Prunty
K Bennett
C Lyons
Aussie
Philip Mahoney
J Barron
C Gleeson
D Hutchinson
Pauric Mahoney
J Prendergast
T Ryan
P Curren
Stephen Bennett

PTH2009 wrote: »

A team like this could do damage but obv way to early to judge and this is done pure on reputation

Soky
S McNulty
C Prunty
K Bennett
C Lyons
Aussie
Philip Mahoney
J Barron
C Gleeson
D Hutchinson
Pauric Mahoney
J Prendergast
T Ryan
P Curren
Stephen Bennett

T ryan is not even on the panel

tommylad1212 wrote: »

T ryan is not even on the panel

i thought it was only Maurice, Connors and the retiring Brick and BOH who are not part of the winter training panel ??

DLS2THECORE wrote: »

Approx 43 on the panel at present including Tommy Ryan. Panel to be reduced to 32 or 33 at the start of the new year

Interesting

Cahill strikes me as a man who will put form over reputation and could we see some regulars from the last few years ??