What jobs get what salary?

Cyrus · 04-12-2019 4:55pm

Klonker wrote: »

Yeah the 5 years includes exams, I only have a few months post qualified. Did ACCA and took my time with some breaks hence the 5 years before qualifying.

ok, 55k would be ok then, but depending on your ambition, you can earn what you want.

you will only limit yourself as they say

mayo londoner · 04-12-2019 6:13pm

@TheAnalyst, same conditions for everyone here, not shy about telling you about company profits though. People working till all hours here in the evenings, sometimes Saturdays too for not a cent extra, the mind boggles

igCorcaigh · 04-12-2019 6:17pm

I spent the first ten years of my career working for cowboys. Self employed as such but probably illegal. ****ty pay. Software dev from 2000 on.

igCorcaigh · 04-12-2019 6:21pm

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I spent the first ten years of my career working for cowboys. Self employed as such but probably illegal. ****ty pay. Software dev from 2000 on.

Used to work a lot of overtime hours or overnighters too for free, cause I was on a "salary".

But there was also this culture of staying late in the office.

It was only when I worked in a more structured environment when I saw people leave work at half five.

needhelpguy · 04-12-2019 6:58pm

Software developer/support guy with coming on 6 years experience, 50k basic in Dublin. I get 1-2% pay rises each year if I'm lucky. I get oncall allowance that works out at 6k/year gross and a bonus of 8-10%. So about 60k all in. 25 days holidays and 10% company pension contribution.

I interviewed recently for a similar job on 70k basic + bonus but another guy got it because he wanted 5k less. They asked me if I would be willing to come down as apparently they liked me but I said no, I know my value and I'm good at what I do, and I know what I want (and that's what they advertised!).

If I'm honest I'm not happy with the pay but I live 10 mins drive from the office and I'm home before 5pm each day with no working late needed. 95% of the time the job is stress free and I work with a good bunch of people. Pension is good and it's a decent company so unless I get what I want elsewhere I'm willing to stay. Work life balance is more important than a slight bump in salary at the moment.

igCorcaigh · 04-12-2019 7:06pm

That sounds good to me.

needhelpguy · 04-12-2019 7:39pm

igCorcaigh wrote: »

That sounds good to me.

Not when you consider many senior jobs in my field are advertised at 65-70k basic, at the very least. The other perks are good for sure, but it's a rigid structure of a company and there is practically no scope for promotion or career advancement. It's not bad overall but seeing the kind of money you should be on if it's much higher grinds you down after a while, no matter what you're working at.

Heart Break Kid · 04-12-2019 9:51pm

sq_forever wrote: »

€118k, at current exchange rates, as construction project manager. Have to travel to UK to earn it though.

In the past 2-3 years FX rate must of hurt a lot if your based in ROI but get paid in GBP.

ToxicPaddy · 04-12-2019 10:04pm

Brian? wrote: »

I’d love to know how they come to those figures. I managed a team of Maitenance technicians who were all on 60-80k a year. That list says 35k

Yeah those salaries are way off, I lead a team and they are paid more than double what a team lead/manager for that team is supposed to be paid. Talk about complete bulls*t :rolleyes:

Added to that I've seen numerous jobs posted lately advertising jobs with basic salaries starting at double what's quoted there.

If that's what HR are using for salary scales in companies I'd say they are leaving their place in droves due to the pay

There are lots of guys here in the company getting recruitment agencies contacting them regularly and offering them huge amounts more than what's on that list for stated industry average salaries. Whoever put that list together needs to start looking at the real world.

Tomato1 · 04-12-2019 10:24pm

HSE paramedic.
In my mid 30's
5 years experience, degree qualification.
260 hours annual leave
Gross: €36500
After 11 years you're up to earning 38,000
Can earn extra with overtime.
Pension at retiring age worth about as much as the dole (most staff don't make it to 65 in this line of work).
12 hour shifts and nights. Regular over runs. Regularly go entire shift with little or no lunch breaks.
Only get roster hours 1-2 weeks in advance unless you're lucky enough to land on a line, which may or may not be near home.

Most of the ambulance staff, nurses, gardai, teachers and friends who are public servants <40 years old can hardly afford rent. The ones working in Dublin suffer the most.
Nearly half my monthly wage goes on rent and utilities.
We also can't afford to buy, because mortgage applications are generally only approved for €120k tops with deposit.

Love the job. Hate the pay and conditions.

HiGlo · 04-12-2019 10:28pm

Sloppy_Joe wrote: »

My rent is 4k give or take...below market rent but I share with others.

To be honest, the greatest saying ever is "you don't miss something you never had".

My life is no frills. I'm approaching 30 and not being comfortable at home due to annoying housemates.

Life is just passing by, one year to the next. What's the end game?

Also I don't "save" as such. I just live my life and that's how much my account has grown in the last year. I need to do something with it.

This is possibly the most depressing thing I’ve ever read..... (although I don’t actually believe a word)

HiGlo · 04-12-2019 10:32pm

interesting thread.
I work in the tourism industry and apart from maybe 3/4 years where I was travelling/dipped my toe in another industry, I have been 20 years working in this business. I’m 40 years old.

In 1999 I started on a salary of £9k a year (yes, pre Euro!).
At that stage I had just a PLC course behind me but since then I’ve gotten 2 undergrad degrees (one related and one totally unrelated).
I now earn €40k a year and work in a fairly specialised area, and while I work lots of overtime I don’t get paid for it, i get time in lieu. I get the bog standard 20 days holidays but my overtime can bring me up to anything between 40-60 days holidays in total.
Tourism is an industry that has/will always be low payers... It works on very small margins so seldom a huge amount of money floating around. It’s the kind of business you work in cause you love it (clearly not for the money!! haha) and I do love it.

There are subsections of the industry you can branch off into that would pay a lot higher.

supermouse · 04-12-2019 10:35pm

Sales manager, hospitality industry. EUR35 & 5k bonus if I hit absolutely absurd targets. No degree, 16 years experience in the field. Standard 40H week, standard 20days holiday.

scudzilla · 04-12-2019 10:54pm

In the security industry working in communications, this year I'm looking at hitting a gross of 45k, left my old job 18months ago and was pulling in a gross of 35k.

No degree but 20yrs experience

Not amazing but certainly far from shabby, love the job, work with a great team and the company is spot on.

AndrewJRenko · 04-12-2019 11:08pm

Tomato1 wrote: »

HSE paramedic.
In my mid 30's
5 years experience, degree qualification.
260 hours annual leave
Gross: €36500
After 11 years you're up to earning 38,000
Can earn extra with overtime.
Pension at retiring age worth about as much as the dole (most staff don't make it to 65 in this line of work).
12 hour shifts and nights. Regular over runs. Regularly go entire shift with little or no lunch breaks.
Only get roster hours 1-2 weeks in advance unless you're lucky enough to land on a line, which may or may not be near home.

Most of the ambulance staff, nurses, gardai, teachers and friends who are public servants <40 years old can hardly afford rent. The ones working in Dublin suffer the most.
Nearly half my monthly wage goes on rent and utilities.
We also can't afford to buy, because mortgage applications are generally only approved for €120k tops with deposit.

Love the job. Hate the pay and conditions.

Is there a fair bit of side work providing medical cover at events and doing training?

Tomato1 · 04-12-2019 11:11pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Is there a fair bit of side work providing medical cover at events and doing training?

A small bit during the summer yeah. Most don't do it.
We work long enough hours as it is and the last thing you want to do on your days off is go work again.

CIP4 · 04-12-2019 11:15pm

I thought I was fairly well paid until I read the post here.

Engineer working in manufacturing between Salary, bonuses and overtime 60k. Currently 25 so have about 3.5 years experience since graduating. At the lower end of the pay scale for the role I am doing but then I am also a lot younger than most doing the same job so will increase with time.

However it’s far from a Monday to Friday 9 to 5 Job. I carry my work phone a lot of the time and can get calls at anytime 24/7. However some of the year is not as busy so not all bad.

gabe1977 · 04-12-2019 11:35pm

92K + Pension + VHI for myself and family.

Maintenance Electrician in a large medical device company.
Qualified electrician, no 3rd level education but have a few job specific training courses and 20 years experience in the industry.

I work (4x12hr shifts) days and nights with 24 days AL. Plenty of opportunities to work extra hours to build up Time in lieu.
Shift work is tough and hours can be quiet anti-social but we are well remunerated so I can't complain.

griffin100 · 05-12-2019 2:17am

Tomato1 wrote: »

HSE paramedic.
In my mid 30's
5 years experience, degree qualification.
260 hours annual leave
Gross: €36500
After 11 years you're up to earning 38,000
Can earn extra with overtime.
Pension at retiring age worth about as much as the dole (most staff don't make it to 65 in this line of work).
12 hour shifts and nights. Regular over runs. Regularly go entire shift with little or no lunch breaks.
Only get roster hours 1-2 weeks in advance unless you're lucky enough to land on a line, which may or may not be near home.

Most of the ambulance staff, nurses, gardai, teachers and friends who are public servants <40 years old can hardly afford rent. The ones working in Dublin suffer the most.
Nearly half my monthly wage goes on rent and utilities.
We also can't afford to buy, because mortgage applications are generally only approved for €120k tops with deposit.

Love the job. Hate the pay and conditions.

My dad was earning €80k+ for the same job 15 years ago (including overtime) although then he was called an ‘ambulance man’

I remember it well as I’d just got my first well paid job and I was shocked at what he earned. He bloody earned every cent though.

igCorcaigh · 05-12-2019 6:24am

CIP4 wrote: »

I thought I was fairly well paid until I read the post here.

Engineer working in manufacturing between Salary, bonuses and overtime 60k. Currently 25 so have about 3.5 years experience since graduating. At the lower end of the pay scale for the role I am doing but then I am also a lot younger than most doing the same job so will increase with time.

However it’s far from a Monday to Friday 9 to 5 Job. I carry my work phone a lot of the time and can get calls at anytime 24/7. However some of the year is not as busy so not all bad.

Damn, you are doing well.

I know about the 24/7 thing, but to be honest, I loved that. As long as you enjoy what you do.

I've worked with some people who approached their job as if they worked in a box factory.

Keep up the good work!

twinytwo · 05-12-2019 10:51am

Work in IT, 55k + pension +healthcare + 25 days hols. 39 hour week. No overtime or weekend work required. About 10 minute commute.

30 years of age, 5 years experience.

Geuze · 05-12-2019 10:56am

CIP4 wrote: »

I thought I was fairly well paid until I read the post here.

Engineer working in manufacturing between Salary, bonuses and overtime 60k. Currently 25 so have about 3.5 years experience since graduating. At the lower end of the pay scale for the role I am doing but then I am also a lot younger than most doing the same job so will increase with time.

However it’s far from a Monday to Friday 9 to 5 Job. I carry my work phone a lot of the time and can get calls at anytime 24/7. However some of the year is not as busy so not all bad.

That is well paid for somebody aged 25.

Geuze · 05-12-2019 11:00am

gabe1977 wrote: »

92K + Pension + VHI for myself and family.

Maintenance Electrician in a large medical device company.
Qualified electrician, no 3rd level education but have a few job specific training courses and 20 years experience in the industry.

I know what you mean by "no 3rd level qual", but I would consider the elec training as a post second-level qualification, and I would consider it equal to a degree.

gabe1977 · 05-12-2019 11:31am

Geuze wrote: »

I know what you mean by "no 3rd level qual", but I would consider the elec training as a post second-level qualification, and I would consider it equal to a degree.

I suppose I was just making the point that I had not pursued any degree further to my trade qualification.
I believe a trade qualification is a QQI Level 6 where as a bachelor's would be a level 7 and an honours level 8.
I know a lot of employers in this industry are reluctant to hire on trade qualification alone and look to see Mechatronics or similar degrees so I deem myself quiet fortunate to have gotten my current role.
I was working as a maintenance tech in a pharma company before this so that's what would have swung it for me.

Sloppy_Joe · 05-12-2019 1:42pm

HiGlo wrote: »

This is possibly the most depressing thing I’ve ever read..... (although I don’t actually believe a word)

It's all true.

What's depressing? My lifestyle? Probably.

H3llR4iser · 05-12-2019 2:23pm

needhelpguy wrote: »

Not when you consider many senior jobs in my field are advertised at 65-70k basic, at the very least. The other perks are good for sure, but it's a rigid structure of a company and there is practically no scope for promotion or career advancement. It's not bad overall but seeing the kind of money you should be on if it's much higher grinds you down after a while, no matter what you're working at.

Nearly 40, pretty much 20 years experience (I started young by today's standards, while still studying), same field, roughly 75k before tax "all included" with 24 days of holidays.

I've recently taken a "promotion" into management, but it didn't change much - the "senior engineers" that report to me make pretty much the same money, with half my experience.

It's a pretty common and unknown fallacy of the IT / Software industry: advancement is pretty much non-existent, and the extremely good entry salary usually offered to somebody fresh out of college is compounded by the fact technical positions have a very hard "ceiling" around 70/75k / year (it tends to increase with inflation, it was about 65k about 10 years ago), which is usually reached around 10/15 years experience.

Now, I realize this is way above "average", make no mistake, but when you realize Paddy down in marketing started at 20k and went up to 150k + company car in 15 years, or that the person whose job is literally to compile a newsletter and post company news on Facebook/Twitter gets 60k, it starts putting a different perspective on your efforts...

The exceptions tend to be "big tech" - finding engineers on 100k+ in Google/Amazon/Microsoft isn't that rare, so if you're lucky enough to get into one of these...

Cyrus · 05-12-2019 2:57pm

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Nearly 40, pretty much 20 years experience (I started young by today's standards, while still studying), same field, roughly 75k before tax "all included" with 24 days of holidays.

I've recently taken a "promotion" into management, but it didn't change much - the "senior engineers" that report to me make pretty much the same money, with half my experience.

It's a pretty common and unknown fallacy of the IT / Software industry: advancement is pretty much non-existent, and the extremely good entry salary usually offered to somebody fresh out of college is compounded by the fact technical positions have a very hard "ceiling" around 70/75k / year (it tends to increase with inflation, it was about 65k about 10 years ago), which is usually reached around 10/15 years experience.

Now, I realize this is way above "average", make no mistake, but when you realize Paddy down in marketing started at 20k and went up to 150k + company car in 15 years, or that the person whose job is literally to compile a newsletter and post company news on Facebook/Twitter gets 60k, it starts putting a different perspective on your efforts...

The exceptions tend to be "big tech" - finding engineers on 100k+ in Google/Amazon/Microsoft isn't that rare, so if you're lucky enough to get into one of these...

but is it not the case that the best end up there? bit like comparing an accountants salary at KPMG and a top 20 firm

tomwaits48 · 05-12-2019 3:22pm

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Nearly 40, pretty much 20 years experience (I started young by today's standards, while still studying), same field, roughly 75k before tax "all included" with 24 days of holidays.

I've recently taken a "promotion" into management, but it didn't change much - the "senior engineers" that report to me make pretty much the same money, with half my experience.

It's a pretty common and unknown fallacy of the IT / Software industry: advancement is pretty much non-existent, and the extremely good entry salary usually offered to somebody fresh out of college is compounded by the fact technical positions have a very hard "ceiling" around 70/75k / year (it tends to increase with inflation, it was about 65k about 10 years ago), which is usually reached around 10/15 years experience.

Now, I realize this is way above "average", make no mistake, but when you realize Paddy down in marketing started at 20k and went up to 150k + company car in 15 years, or that the person whose job is literally to compile a newsletter and post company news on Facebook/Twitter gets 60k, it starts putting a different perspective on your efforts...

The exceptions tend to be "big tech" - finding engineers on 100k+ in Google/Amazon/Microsoft isn't that rare, so if you're lucky enough to get into one of these...

lol, not the first time I've noted a disdain from IT people towards marketing people.

joseywhales · 05-12-2019 5:28pm

I've come to the realisation that qualifications mean absolutely nothing except for maybe getting you in the door.
It is some kind of public sector artifact, to believe that you are entitled to some wage based on some level of experience.

I think if you want money, like a lot of real money, you basically need to get yourself into a position where you can mildly extort it from your employer/client without making them feel bad about it.
At the end of the day, nobody is "fair", despite the mindless communications from their HR department whose sole job is to protect the company from litigation.
You have to get yourself into a position where it will cost them more to let you go than give you what you want and sometimes you need to be duplicitous to get there, managers prefer someone they think they can control and dictate to but in the end you have to give them the mild shaft in the kindest way possible, where they feel you won't just shaft them every 'x' years and you are worth the trouble.
You should never hesitate to be 100% selfish because that what every corporation is designed to be and they have vastly more resources and expertise at hand.

Cyrus · 05-12-2019 5:48pm

joseywhales wrote: »

I've come to the realisation that qualifications mean absolutely nothing except for maybe getting you in the door.
It is some kind of public sector artifact, to believe that you are entitled to some wage based on some level of experience.

I think if you want money, like a lot of real money, you basically need to get yourself into a position where you can mildly extort it from your employer/client without making them feel bad about it.
At the end of the day, nobody is "fair", despite the mindless communications from their HR department whose sole job is to protect the company from litigation.
You have to get yourself into a position where it will cost them more to let you go than give you what you want and sometimes you need to be duplicitous to get there, managers prefer someone they think they can control and dictate to but in the end you have to give them the mild shaft in the kindest way possible, where they feel you won't just shaft them every 'x' years and you are worth the trouble.
You should never hesitate to be 100% selfish because that what every corporation is designed to be and they have vastly more resources and expertise at hand.

yes, and you wont get it if you dont ask for it,

the amount of people who i have met who are frustrated with not getting paid enough but never asked and just expected that someone would give them a massive pay rise.

What jobs get what salary?

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