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Manor Street is an absolute mess after the clubs close

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  • #52
    friendlyfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭friendlyfun


    StringerBell wrote: »
    You're pointing out a problem, that is bothering you a hell of a lot and you have no solution to offer to it. Are you just having a moan for the sake of it? Mind you I haven't seen proposals from you, other than simply do nothing.

    I just don't see the point of this, what would you like to see done as a reasonable solution to your problem?

    Has this solution been tried elsewhere and how has it worked or what would suggest tweaked to make it work on manor street?

    Why does addressing a serious issue have to come across as moaning? It's not me who's moaning.

    Yes the solution is basically the status quo in most of Europe which is sequential closing times.Strict licensing laws here do not lead to a decrease in alcohol consumption. Here's some evidence backing my claim from the Irish Nightclub Industry Association (2009).

    "NSRA (2004: Q10) provides strong support for
    introduction of the staggered (sequential) closing
    time system. According to the survey data,
    sequential closing times are believed to be the
    second most effective non-penal means for
    preventing drunkenness in public places (8%) and
    the most preferred way of combating public
    drunkenness without resorting to direct restrictions
    on alcohol consumption."


  • #53
    magick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    Flow Motion wrote: »
    The streets of any town or city is always gonna be a bit sketchy after the pubs and clubs finish. And it has always been that way TBH. When I started going out first The Bridge Hotel (or Breens as it was known locally) was the centre of Waterford's nightlife. There was huge crowds down that side of town and plenty of argy bargy @ times too! The nearest chipper was Supermacs and there was always a congregation of well oiled and hungry people lingering on into the early hours at the weekend. Pretty much the same as John St these days but in a different part of town.

    With regards to the nightlife being concentrated in the John St area I think that this is out of the control of any of the concerned stakeholders. There was a time that the nightlife was quite spread out around the town. Different clubs for differing styles. The Roxy in O'Connell St; Preachers in John St; The Bridge Hotel; Flow Motion & Flare in Conduit Lane; The Reg; The Metroland. Even 'The Forum' in the early 00's was quite adrift from the so called hub @ John St. As is quite apparent from the list all of the nightclubs mentioned are now defunct and closed. Plus the way people socialise has changed in that time.

    All this aside you are always going to have idiots no matter what type of system you implement. Some people are happy drunks and some are aggressive. That is the nature of alcohol. Blame society or who you want but you can't change human nature. You cannot predict what anyone is capable of doing.


    Yeah id agree with this, i used to go to the Junction when it was open, then the forum. Back in the day (a while back) I always noticed it was either people getting kicked out of night clubs and the fight would spill out on the street or few too taxis for too many people, someone making some comment in a chipper that was taken up wrong.


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