BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

12-11-2019 07:24PM

26000 Elephants wrote: »

Im happy to be corrected, but since you are being an asshole about it,

1. 12nnnnn is an arbitrary number above existing sequences.
2 ... maybe so
3. Thats been the effect of it. See posts above in this thread for prime example.
4. Its no longer used, so semantics aside, scrapped is fine.

Arbitrary: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

12***(*) was picked because no existing vehicle registration in any county or year was above that number. Therefore it was not arbitrary.

The effect of it /=/ the reason behind it. You claimed it was brought in to devalue imports, not that it devalued imports. You imputed motive and conspiracy.

And it took 4 years for it be 'scrapped'. 1-2 years is not equal to 4.

By all means though, keep inventing conspiracy theories on the internet and calling people assholes when they point out you're quite obviously making the entire thing up ��

FionnK86 · 12-11-2019 08:17PM

Less sh!te talking, more BANGERNOMICS!

26000 Elephants · 12-11-2019 09:00PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Arbitrary: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

12***(*) was picked because no existing vehicle registration in any county or year was above that number. Therefore it was not arbitrary.

The effect of it /=/ the reason behind it. You claimed it was brought in to devalue imports, not that it devalued imports. You imputed motive and conspiracy.

And it took 4 years for it be 'scrapped'. 1-2 years is not equal to 4.

By all means though, keep inventing conspiracy theories on the internet and calling people assholes when they point out you're quite obviously making the entire thing up ��

Tell you what, why dont you come back to me after you get your decision from the ASAI re: Eir's meaning of 'unlimited'. But you will probably be too busy going after the producers of the movie "The Never Ending Story" by then.

I'll leave you to your pedantry (and inaccuracies) so.

angrybeaver · 12-11-2019 09:26PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/13-month-nct-ford-mondeo-1-6-petrol/23480345?campaign=3

Any comment on the above? Looks to be value

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 12-11-2019 09:36PM

angrybeaver wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/13-month-nct-ford-mondeo-1-6-petrol/23480345?campaign=3

Any comment on the above? Looks to be value

Would be my engine of choice on that whole range. Decent’ish power out of that 1.6 lump with none of the diesel complications. For a grand...it’s cheap. I think the 2008 is higher tax than the 2007... I may be wrong.

terrydel · 12-11-2019 09:40PM

angrybeaver wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/13-month-nct-ford-mondeo-1-6-petrol/23480345?campaign=3

Any comment on the above? Looks to be value

Cat convertor light on would be a worry, if it's gone or going it'll not be worth fixing. Good value otherwise tho and ad seems honest

26000 Elephants · 12-11-2019 09:49PM

terrydel wrote: »

Cat convertor light on would be a worry, if it's gone or going it'll not be worth fixing. Good value otherwise tho and ad seems honest

A quick look at the NCT sheet should tell how good the cat is working - whether its well within limits or just squeaked past. But yeah, if its stuffed it might be dear to fix.

Nice bit of cash spent on it and then moved on is never a good look. I'd throw an OBD scanner on it first.

+1 on the engine too, handier than the diesel if your not doing the miles.

TigerTim · 13-11-2019 08:04AM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Another offering from me..

Typical enough 1.4 saloon, 80k kms, NCT til October 2020, tax til May 2020
1 owner from new, a retired bishop no less
Brand new tyres all round (Davanti)
Never failed an NCT, or even had an advisory..ever
Serviced religiously (:pac:) every year, full history essentially
Couple of small marks, but its very presentable, and like new inside

It will be going on Donedeal on Monday for 1750. If anyone here thinks it might be for them, 1500 will buy it.

Really annoyed with myself that I missed this. Mrs T's '99 Renault Scenic is about to die & this would have suited perfectly. Great find Duke & thanks for the info. Cars like this don't come up too often.

T.

Kilboor · 13-11-2019 01:13PM

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Primera, 650 euro, 1 owner but no stated mileage. NCT to June and reads 119k km.

BonnieSituation · 13-11-2019 01:16PM

Kilboor wrote: »

Primera, 650 euro, 1 owner but no stated mileage. NCT to June and reads 119k km.

Those seats must have been so filthy if that's the best the valet could do on the rear.

lalababa · 13-11-2019 01:20PM

fergiesfolly wrote: »

May I ask how all the bangernomics drivers fare with car insurance.
I've looked at a few that were 10 years+ and the insurance companies generally went silent.
20+ years driving on a clean license and no claims by the way.

I was with chill on a 17 year old
Car , 400euros, asked 600 this year so went to AXA for 500 comp. Then got a 3 yr old car and they gave me 40 euros back ???? Comp on a 10k car versus comp on a 200euro car...WTF? Must be the age.

ToxicPaddy · 13-11-2019 01:24PM

lalababa wrote: »

I was with chill on a 17 year old
Car , 400euros, asked 600 this year so went to AXA for 500 comp. Then got a 3 yr old car and they gave me 40 euros back ???? Comp on a 10k car versus comp on a 200euro car...WTF? Must be the age.

I'm currently with AXA on a 01 car and they hiked it from €460 to €735 on fully comp on my renewal at the end of this month.

6 x other insurers have come in under them ranging from €146 up to €280 cheaper. No clue what's happening with AXA tbh but they won't have me as a customer come Dec 1st.

selectamatic · 13-11-2019 02:53PM

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-insignia-2009-cdti/23477295

Cheap and chancey
09 160bhp cdti insignia
Test till next october
Looks pretty clean
Same owner since June 2016
Claimed clutch, flywheel and turbo done last year also full service and oil seal apparently done a fortnight ago.
Asking €1700

FionnK86 · 13-11-2019 05:06PM

Ref the Insignia above, with 300,000 KM.

Would the recent oil pressure seal just done in sump be an early warning of further trouble with oil pressure?

TychoCaine · 13-11-2019 07:36PM

FionnK86 wrote: »

Ref the Insignia above, with 300,000 KM.

Would the recent oil pressure seal just done in sump be an early warning of further trouble with oil pressure?

A dried out seal on the oil pump is what kills the oil pressure, which kills the engine. A new seal should mean it was caught in time and you'll be good for years to come. It's crazy that Opel were allowed to get away with not recalling the car over this.

TigerTim · 13-11-2019 10:35PM

Here's a nice BMW 1 series. €950. What are these like to own?.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/06-bmw-1-series-1-6-petrol-new-nct-11-20/23484725

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T.

26000 Elephants · 14-11-2019 10:35AM

TigerTim wrote: »

Here's a nice BMW 1 series. €950. What are these like to own?.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/06-bmw-1-series-1-6-petrol-new-nct-11-20/23484725

T.

I'm really starting to come round to these. Surely they will have to go up in value from here? They're ugly in a cook kind of way. Certainly beats knocking around in a Kia.

They're not much different mechanically from the 3 series, so probably the usual caveats apply plus watch for rusty brake lines, erc.

terrydel · 14-11-2019 10:48AM

TigerTim wrote: »

Here's a nice BMW 1 series. €950. What are these like to own?.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/06-bmw-1-series-1-6-petrol-new-nct-11-20/23484725

T.

Am I the only one who thinks its too cheap?

grogi · 14-11-2019 10:51AM

terrydel wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks its too cheap?

It's a 12 year old, slugish (1.6) manual tiny BMW with questionable looks. There are far safer cars to go for if you're looking for cheap reliable motoring...

It is cheap, but it is difficult to sell old cars these days.

trixiebust · 14-11-2019 11:06AM

grogi wrote: »

It's a 12 year old, slugish (1.6) manual tiny BMW with questionable looks. There are far safer cars to go for if you're looking for cheap reliable motoring...

It is cheap, but it is difficult to sell old cars these days.

The cheapest BMW's end up being the most expensive ones in the end.

ToxicPaddy · 14-11-2019 11:23AM

terrydel wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks its too cheap?

It's difficult to know. There are a good few for under the sub €1k mark on done deal but there are also a fair few of similar age and mileage going for between €1k and €2.5k.

Buf if its due some major work and hasnt been taking car of, then the new owner could be in for a whole world of pain for what they think is a bargin buy.

marcos_94 · 14-11-2019 11:26AM

26000 Elephants wrote: »

I'm really starting to come round to these. Surely they will have to go up in value from here? They're ugly in a cook kind of way. Certainly beats knocking around in a Kia.

They're not much different mechanically from the 3 series, so probably the usual caveats apply plus watch for rusty brake lines, erc.

The 1.6 leaves a lot to be desired on power but its not an awful motor. Biggest selling point of these is that they are RWD which is pretty rare for a hatchback. Main thing to look out for is the timing chain on them, and at 105k miles, I wouldnt buy one that hasnt had the chain done

terrydel · 14-11-2019 11:40AM

marcos_94 wrote: »

The 1.6 leaves a lot to be desired on power but its not an awful motor. Biggest selling point of these is that they are RWD which is pretty rare for a hatchback. Main thing to look out for is the timing chain on them, and at 105k miles, I wouldnt buy one that hasnt had the chain done

Yep, as always it depends on hows its been looked after. If it doesnt need any work and has everything in order, I think its very good value. Looks in great nick outside and in, nice seats, an engine like that might be sluggish but its probably basic enough and reliable.

26000 Elephants · 14-11-2019 11:54AM

trixiebust wrote: »

The cheapest BMW's end up being the most expensive ones in the end.

I'd agree where it's cheap due to some endemic issue with the model or whatever, but in this case it's a lot about market sentiment due to age, complexity, pricey parts etc.

In these cases a cheap car can simply be good value. Anyway, I'm having a look at it later.

terrydel · 14-11-2019 11:57AM

26000 Elephants wrote: »

I'd agree where it's cheap due to some endemic issue with the model or whatever, but in this case it's a lot about market sentiment due to age, complexity, pricey parts etc.

In these cases a cheap car can simply be good value. Anyway, I'm having a look at it later.

Throw up an update when you can. Best of luck.

TigerTim · 14-11-2019 02:10PM

Checked the NCT on the BMW & it says "Selected Vehicle already has a Trade Booking". Does that mean its being sold by the trade?.

Please update us 26000 Elephants. I like them for some reason.

T.

26000 Elephants · 14-11-2019 04:07PM

terrydel wrote: »

Throw up an update when you can. Best of luck.

Lovely car for the money, cheap because of damage to NSF door, not too apparent in photos. Needs a few 100 to fix that and correct paint and it's a brilliant car. Drives well, but had something leaking into undetray - could be oil or water, hard to tell and wasntvreaching down! Lol!

If it was for me I would have offered 850 and not be bothered about the looks - but it would bother who I'm looking for.

One owner car (previous joe duffy, so maybe ex demo or rental, probably latter) but local since 2007 and FBMWSH from Aherns in Kerry. Interior unmarked.

Interesting about dealer booking- I got the impression seller is a part time dealer. That's fine, but there were a few little half truths so be wary, but at that money its grand.

@grogi: sluggish confirmed, but it is what it is, I'd live with it.

terrydel · 14-11-2019 04:12PM

26000 Elephants wrote: »

Lovely car for the money, cheap because of damage to NSF door, not too apparent in photos. Needs a few 100 to fix that and correct paint and it's a brilliant car. Drives well, but had something leaking into undetray - could be oil or water, hard to tell and wasntvreaching down! Lol!

If it was for me I would have offered 850 and not be bothered about the looks - but it would bother who I'm looking for.

One owner car (previous joe duffy, so maybe ex demo or rental, probably latter) but local since 2007 and FBMWSH from Aherns in Kerry. Interior unmarked.

Interesting about dealer booking- I got the impression seller is a part time dealer. That's fine, but there were a few little half truths so be wary, but at that money its grand.

@grogi: sluggish confirmed, but it is what it is, I'd live with it.

Is there any normal private seller left on donedeal? Dont mind traders at all, but at least be open and up front about it.
Was the damage from a tip with another car or what?

26000 Elephants · 14-11-2019 04:19PM

terrydel wrote: »

Is there any normal private seller left on donedeal? Dont mind traders at all, but at least be open and up front about it.
Was the damage from a tip with another car or what?

LOL! Theres few enough! . I've just copped that the car has a 'listowel autos' sticker on the back - if it's one owner it should be Aherms so might be a trade in being punted on because its too old to retail.

It's being sold private, at private money so I'm not actually bothered by that at all.

Damage is purely cosmetic, supermarket tip stuff. Probably sorted for small money to be fair.

terrydel · 14-11-2019 04:28PM

26000 Elephants wrote: »

LOL! Theres few enough! . I've just copped that the car has a 'listowel autos' sticker on the back - if it's one owner it should be Aherms so might be a trade in being punted on because its too old to retail.

It's being sold private, at private money so I'm not actually bothered by that at all.

Damage is purely cosmetic, supermarket tip stuff. Probably sorted for small money to be fair.

Yeah, you aint getting a warranty at that age or price regardless of who is selling it. I just dislike the fact they cant be upfront about the fact they are trading, but maybe Im too sensitive!
Im not a bmw fan but I think for that money you'd have a nice car there. And sure its slow maybe, but nobody buys a car like that thinking they are getting a rocket.
If I could get half that for my 04 a3 I'd be doing well! And it has a full years tax now too.

BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

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