Rebel burger. No, no, no!

RasTa · 13-11-2019 12:01pm

Brewdog over here released some weird 50% beef 50% vegan burger that baffled everybody. It even used vegan cheese and was the most expensive burger on the menu.

Cyrus · 13-11-2019 12:02pm

Abdiel Numerous Squirrel wrote: »

Supermacs is far superior to both McDonald’s and BK. Smokey bacon burger and taco fries, savage!

says every lad west of the shannon, in reality its not.

Im a meat eater although im trying to cut down, not because i have an issue with animal welfare (i dont want to think about it to my own shame ) but because meat isnt really that good for us and i train better when im not eating meat.

And to say carting animals to their death isnt cruel is just trolling. Would you make the same argument re the holocaust? a lot of the people on the trains didnt know they were on their way to a gas chamber, was that not cruel either?

sally cinnamon89 · 13-11-2019 12:05pm

Notdeco wrote: »

Very true, and tbh. I like to have some meat with my iceberg lettuce tomato and onion. Instead of iceberg lettuce tomato onions and some kind of soy beans plus iceberg lettuce tomato and onions minced(add some spices for effect) for my burger.
Cos its not a burger by definition.
Vegan patty, yes. But not a burger

Don't order it then. You seemed very offended by a menu item.

eviltwin · 13-11-2019 12:08pm

I've never understood the hostility towards vegan and vegetarian options on a menu. Anything that gives people more choice is a good thing. It's not like anyone is going to be force-fed tge stuff. I don't eat fast food but it's nice to know I have another option now.

Tacitus Kilgore · 13-11-2019 12:13pm

eviltwin wrote: »

I've never understood the hostility towards vegan and vegetarian options on a menu. Anything that gives people more choice is a good thing. It's not like anyone is going to be force-fed tge stuff. I don't eat fast food but it's nice to know I have another option now.

Yeah, it's really weird, kinda like the Thunberg complex, probably similar demographic too.

I eat anything and everything, and love trying veggie/vegan/dairy free options, had a vegan sausage roll & a clonakilty black sausage roll for breakfast today, fuckin savage both of them. Great to have the choice.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 13-11-2019 12:16pm

Abdiel Numerous Squirrel wrote: »

Supermacs is far superior to both McDonald’s and BK. Smokey bacon burger and taco fries, savage!

That's like comparing dog shít, cat shít and horse shít.

PhilOssophy · 13-11-2019 12:23pm

Its a good thing Ireland is such a huge producer of soya, zero carbon footprint on it going into your burger like....

the beer revolu · 13-11-2019 12:23pm

Josephine Ambitious Seafarer wrote: »

That's like comparing dog shít, cat shít and horse shít.

You wouldn't have an order of preference if you had to eat these?
What's wrong with you?

El_Duderino 09 · 13-11-2019 12:23pm

eviltwin wrote: »

I've never understood the hostility towards vegan and vegetarian options on a menu. Anything that gives people more choice is a good thing. It's not like anyone is going to be force-fed tge stuff. I don't eat fast food but it's nice to know I have another option now.

My Mrs is veggie and it's interesting to hear the comments she gets. She works with a woman who's husband is a beef farmer and she gets annoyed at my Mrs for being veggie.

A recent example was my Mrs eating lunch and someone asked what it was and yer wan said "fcuking vegans" and walked off. My Mrs never claimed to be vegan but there you have it. There were other times she told my Mrs her food looked like sh1t and like baby vomit. As it happens my Mrs is a great cook and we make all our own lunches to cut costs.

This was out of character for yer wan to be so rude to my Mrs as they usually get on great. Turns out her 11 year old daughter wanted to be veggie because else didn't agree with killing animals in her name and yer wan went baloobas and refused to cook veggie food or allow the daughter to be veggie. Apparently it's been a standoff between them for 18 months now.

She got upset that others don't want to buy the product her husband sells. Some people are odd. That's my analysis.

eviltwin · 13-11-2019 12:28pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

My Mrs is veggie and it's interesting to hear the comments she gets. She works with a woman who's husband is a beef farmer and she gets annoyed at my Mrs for being veggie.

A recent example was my Mrs eating lunch and someone asked what it was and yer wan said "fcuking vegans" and walked off. My Mrs never claimed to be vegan but there you have it. There were other times she told my Mrs her food looked like sh1t and like baby vomit. As it happens my Mrs is a great cook and we make all our own lunches to cut costs.

This was out of character for yer wan to be so rude to my Mrs as they usually get on great. Turns out her 11 year old daughter wanted to be veggie because else didn't agree with killing animals in her name and yer wan went baloobas and refused to cook veggie food or allow the daughter to be veggie. Apparently it's been a standoff between them for 18 months now.

She got upset that others don't want to buy the product her husband sells. Some people are odd. That's my analysis.

Reminds me of the time I brought donuts to work one day. Someone unwittingly ate a vegan one and lost the plot when they found out. Over a bleedin donut :rolleyes: I had to tell him its OK to like vegan food, it's not like you're cheating on meat.

Thelonious Monk · 13-11-2019 12:29pm

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Its a good thing Ireland is such a huge producer of soya, zero carbon footprint on it going into your burger like....

We're a huge importer of soy from south America, to feed our cows as we can't grow enough food for them!

RWCNT · 13-11-2019 12:34pm

RasTa wrote: »

Brewdog over here released some weird 50% beef 50% vegan burger that baffled everybody. It even used vegan cheese and was the most expensive burger on the menu.

Saw that the last time I popped in! Utterly bizarre, surely nobody whatsoever asked for that?

Space Dog · 13-11-2019 12:36pm

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Its a good thing Ireland is such a huge producer of soya, zero carbon footprint on it going into your burger like....

Yeah, and good job Ireland doesn't import any other food from other countries. No carbon footprint on bananas, tomatos, pineapple, oranges, coffee, cocoa. At all...

ancapailldorcha · 13-11-2019 12:39pm

What do people get out of incessantly wailing on forums like this?

Tacitus Kilgore · 13-11-2019 12:39pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

What do people get out of incessantly wailing on forums like this?

Angry & agitated.

It's all i get anyway, wasting my fuckin life here...

13-11-2019 12:44pm

Cyrus wrote: »

Im a meat eater although im trying to cut down, not because i have an issue with animal welfare (i dont want to think about it to my own shame ) but because meat isnt really that good for us and i train better when im not eating meat.

I see the vegan propaganda about meat being bad has got into your head!

Bar week day breakfast I have to have meat (a lots of it in many cases) with every other meal or it just wouldn’t be a meal without it. Every Saturday and Sunday is a full fry for breakfast then also, wouldn’t be a weekend without it.

ancapailldorcha · 13-11-2019 12:45pm

taytobreath wrote: »

anyone try these vegan burgers yet, if they tasted as good as their regular burgers i could easily replace

I had a plant burger at an Honest Burger in London a few weeks back. Was sublime. Possibly the best burger I've ever had. I think it was unfortunately imported from the US but the company, Impossible Foods are opening up shop in the Netherlands. Should slash both the price and carbon footprint nicely.

the beer revolu · 13-11-2019 12:53pm

I just had one.
Thanks for the heads up, op!

I enjoyed it and it does taste like a whopper.
However the flavour and texture of the meat version is just better.
I'd probably have one again, sometime.

Thelonious Monk · 13-11-2019 12:58pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I had a plant burger at an Honest Burger in London a few weeks back. Was sublime. Possibly the best burger I've ever had. I think it was unfortunately imported from the US but the company, Impossible Foods are opening up shop in the Netherlands. Should slash both the price and carbon footprint nicely.

Honest are the absolute bomb in fairness, I was there on Sunday but had some kind of fritter burger, not the plant based burger one. It was amazing. When I lived there there was one Honest in Brixton Market now they seem to be all over the city.
It's a pity Bunsen don't have anything for veggies.

ancapailldorcha · 13-11-2019 1:09pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Honest are the absolute bomb in fairness, I was there on Sunday but had some kind of fritter burger, not the plant based burger one. It was amazing. When I lived there there was one Honest in Brixton Market now they seem to be all over the city.
It's a pity Bunsen don't have anything for veggies.

I work near one. I had one which was just called the plant burger and came with rosemary fries. It was just sublime. I had a Five Guys recently and while I love it, it just wasn't amazing the way that it used to be.

13-11-2019 1:09pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I had a plant burger at an Honest Burger in London a few weeks back. Was sublime. Possibly the best burger I've ever had. I think it was unfortunately imported from the US but the company, Impossible Foods are opening up shop in the Netherlands. Should slash both the price and carbon footprint nicely.

I had an impossible burger recently, I couldn't believe how good it was. I'd happily give up meat (which I love) altogether if I had that option all the time. I was massively impressed.

I genuinely don't care whats on a menu. I can't begrudge one or two veggie/vegan options, it's not like I'm being forced to choose them myself if that's not what I want. I don't understand the fuss.

the beer revolu · 13-11-2019 1:14pm

Abdiel Numerous Squirrel wrote: »

Bar week day breakfast I have to have meat (a lots of it in many cases) with every other meal or it just wouldn’t be a meal without it. Every Saturday and Sunday is a full fry for breakfast then also, wouldn’t be a weekend without it.

What a long winded way to say that you like eating meat.

Ash.J.Williams · 13-11-2019 1:27pm

i'm a meat eater but that fact is we will not be eating meat like we are now in the future, it's an absolute fact.

13-11-2019 1:49pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

i'm a meat eater but that fact is we will not be eating meat like we are now in the future, it's an absolute fact.

I don’t see any reason why we won’t.

Cyrus · 13-11-2019 1:50pm

Abdiel Numerous Squirrel wrote: »

I see the vegan propaganda about meat being bad has got into your head!

Bar week day breakfast I have to have meat (a lots of it in many cases) with every other meal or it just wouldn’t be a meal without it. Every Saturday and Sunday is a full fry for breakfast then also, wouldn’t be a weekend without it.

not at all i can see the difference myself in my training times and in my general well being, i like it too much to give up but i can see its not good for me.

a full fry wont be good for you regardless

13-11-2019 1:53pm

Cyrus wrote: »

a full fry wont be good for you regardless

I don’t see it as being partially bad either though and damn it’s tasty. It’s been tradition at home to have a full irish breakfast every Saturday and Sunday since before I was born. Ive been having them pretty much every single weekend since I was able to eat that type of food and I have no intention of changing that.

Tired Gardener · 13-11-2019 1:54pm

Abdiel Numerous Squirrel wrote: »

I don’t see any reason why we won’t.

You really are in for a shock. Our approach to food is going to radically change due to our impact upon the climate.

Meat is going to change to being a luxury food item. It may not happen suddenly, but it is going to happen. The age of cheap meat is drawing to a close.

Cyrus · 13-11-2019 1:58pm

Abdiel Numerous Squirrel wrote: »

I don’t see it as being partially bad either though and damn it’s tasty. It’s been tradition at home to have a full irish breakfast every Saturday and Sunday since before I was born. Ive been having them pretty much every single weekend since I was able to eat that type of food and I have no intention of changing that.

i have no doubt that you want your life to stay exactly as it is until the day you die.

a fry is bad, surely you admit that, a load of processed mate fried, how can it be good for you?

Thelonious Monk · 13-11-2019 1:58pm

Tired Gardener wrote: »

You really are in for a shock. Our approach to food is going to radically change due to our impact upon the climate.

Meat is going to change to being a luxury food item. It may not happen suddenly, but it is going to happen. The age of cheap meat is drawing to a close.

I dont think so, we are producing more and more. We are about to start exporting 10 times more beef to china for example as Minister Creed signed some agreements yesterday. Which means we will need to import even more feed ffs.

jh79 · 13-11-2019 1:59pm

Cyrus wrote: »

says every lad west of the shannon, in reality its not.

Im a meat eater although im trying to cut down, not because i have an issue with animal welfare (i dont want to think about it to my own shame ) but because meat isnt really that good for us and i train better when im not eating meat.

A diet that contains both meat and dairy and plenty of fruit and veg is the healthiest possible. Unless you're eating huge amounts of processed meat such as bacon and salamis or going well over the recommended 80 to 100g of red meat a day there is no benefit in cuting down.

Cyrus · 13-11-2019 2:00pm

jh79 wrote: »

A diet that contains both meat and dairy and plenty of fruit and veg is the healthiest possible. Unless you're eating huge amounts of processed meat such as bacon and salamis or going well over the recommended 80 to 100g of red meat a day there is no benefit in cuting down.

most people dont eat plenty of fruit and veg though. i find focusing on trying to eat more naturally means less meat, for example you dont need meat with every meal.

the beer revolu · 13-11-2019 2:03pm

Cyrus wrote: »

a fry is bad, surely you admit that, a load of processed mate fried, how can it be good for you?

Nox is a person who insists that drinking 15 to 20 pints and a few shorts on a day out isn't unhealthy. I don't think you're going to get him to move on the fry.

Church on Tuesday · 13-11-2019 2:05pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I had a plant burger at an Honest Burger in London a few weeks back. Was sublime. Possibly the best burger I've ever had. I think it was unfortunately imported from the US but the company, Impossible Foods are opening up shop in the Netherlands. Should slash both the price and carbon footprint nicely.

I remember staying with a friend of a friend once years back for a gig and they were veggies.

Had some kind of veggie burger (you have to excuse my ignorance here, no idea what is was) and it was delicious.

So, it can be done.

Thelonious Monk · 13-11-2019 2:12pm

jh79 wrote: »

A diet that contains both meat and dairy and plenty of fruit and veg is the healthiest possible. Unless you're eating huge amounts of processed meat such as bacon and salamis or going well over the recommended 80 to 100g of red meat a day there is no benefit in cuting down.

The Japs don't eat dairy and they're arguably the healthiest people in the world.

13-11-2019 2:14pm

Tired Gardener wrote: »

You really are in for a shock. Our approach to food is going to radically change due to our impact upon the climate.

Meat is going to change to being a luxury food item. It may not happen suddenly, but it is going to happen. The age of cheap meat is drawing to a close.

Nothing but Scaremongering imo. I don’t see any major change to our meat eating into the future.

In any case we own our own land and stock so we will always have meat. I’d have no issue with meat being more expensive either it’s not sustainable at current prices for the farmers producing it but that won’t stop most people eating it pretty much every meal.

Cyrus · 13-11-2019 2:15pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

Nox is a person who insists that drinking 15 to 20 pints and a few shorts on a day out isn't unhealthy. I don't think you're going to get him to move on the fry.

thats true

im struggling to believe that he is only a stone overweight

he must have some metabolism

jimgoose · 13-11-2019 2:17pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

The Japs don't eat dairy and they're arguably the healthiest people in the world.

The Japanese are incredible, as is their diet, particularly in Okinawa. It seems they get most of their calcium from small fish bones and tofu, which contains a surprising amount of it. Apparently shiitake mushrooms help with absorption as well.

magic_murph · 13-11-2019 2:17pm

Notdeco wrote: »

So burger King have spread the v virus to Ireland.
And I'm not happy...

If I want a burger, I want it to be real meat. If I want a salad I want it to be a salad.
Ah the poor vegans want it all.
Well ye can fook off and eat seeds and help the planet and leave the tasty food to us that enjoy flavour.

Had to be said.
I can't be the only one to think this, maybe I am...

Stop eating in Burger King - you will live longer.

jh79 · 13-11-2019 2:33pm

Cyrus wrote: »

most people dont eat plenty of fruit and veg though. i find focusing on trying to eat more naturally means less meat, for example you dont need meat with every meal.

You could if your average intake was the recommened 80g a day of red meat and bulked up with chicken.

Lots of junk science about plant based diets. Fake documentaries such Game Changers and Forks Over Knives guilty of spreading these false claims.

Thelonious Monk · 13-11-2019 2:36pm

jh79 wrote: »

You could if your average intake was the recommened 80g a day of red meat and bulked up with chicken.

Lots of junk science about plant based diets. Fake documentaries such Game Changers and Forks Over Knives guilty of spreading these false claims.

I don't eat red meat and I'm perfectly healthy. It's not necessary.

jh79 · 13-11-2019 2:40pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I don't eat red meat and I'm perfectly healthy. It's not necessary.

Never said it was, but its not unhealthy and full of nutrients.

donegal_man · 13-11-2019 2:44pm

This from the NY Times may help explain why Burger King are selling the "rebel burger" in Europe.
Apologies if this has been posted already.

The Impossible Whopper — made by California-based Impossible Foods — attracted many new U.S. customers to Burger King when it debuted this spring. Miami-based Restaurant Brands International — which owns Burger King — said the chain's U.S. sales rose 6% in the third quarter, compared to growth of 1% the prior year..
Sales of plant-based meat substitutes have grown an average of 22% annually in Eastern Europe over the last five years, and 13% annually in Western Europe

Full Article

Paddigol · 13-11-2019 2:50pm

Had one yesterday. Very tasty. Don't know why I'd bother eating a regular Whopper now. It's not as though the filthy beef patty is even 'meat' proper.

ancapailldorcha · 13-11-2019 3:02pm

jh79 wrote: »

You could if your average intake was the recommened 80g a day of red meat and bulked up with chicken.

Lots of junk science about plant based diets. Fake documentaries such Game Changers and Forks Over Knives guilty of spreading these false claims.

That's not really a rigours argument, moreso a lazy dismissal via the overused fake news card.

Ipso · 13-11-2019 3:31pm

So they’re not organic and use genetically engineered food. Wont be long until the purity brigade turn on them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/what-is-in-impossible-burger-ingredient-list-2019-5

jack presley · 13-11-2019 3:33pm

Ipso wrote: »

So they’re not organic and use genetically engineered food. Wont be long until the purity brigade turn on them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/what-is-in-impossible-burger-ingredient-list-2019-5

That’s the American version which isn’t what’s being sold here.

jimgoose · 13-11-2019 3:34pm

Ipso wrote: »

So they’re not organic and use genetically engineered food. Wont be long until the purity brigade turn on them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/what-is-in-impossible-burger-ingredient-list-2019-5

"Cultured Dextrose" would be an excellent name for a post-New Age electro-funk outfit.

Ipso · 13-11-2019 4:05pm

jack presley wrote: »

That’s the American version which isn’t what’s being sold here.

What ingredients are in the those ones?

jack presley · 13-11-2019 4:07pm

Ipso wrote: »

What ingredients are in the those ones?

No idea but it’s made by a Dutch company. They couldn’t use the American ones because of the GM ingredients.

Ipso · 13-11-2019 4:27pm

jack presley wrote: »

No idea but it’s made by a Dutch company. They couldn’t use the American ones because of the GM ingredients.

The humanity!

Rebel burger. No, no, no!

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