Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

blackwhite · 25-10-2019 03:11PM

TheChizler wrote: »

But surely if they keep catching up with you there's no point in you overtaking in the first place? It's just an unnecessary overtake to beat the person to the next set of lights.

Or maybe if you were able to get away unimpeded you'd pass through the next lights before they turn red.

hesker · 25-10-2019 03:26PM

blackwhite wrote: »

Or maybe if you were able to get away unimpeded you'd pass through the next lights before they turn red.

But not if your in a car of course.

blackwhite · 25-10-2019 03:37PM

hesker wrote: »

But not if your in a car of course.

When on the bike I'll always make sure not to cause unnecessary delays to any other road users - regardless of their mode of transport.

When in the car, I've yet to see a line of cars stopped at lights where a car that was previously overtaken overtakes the line and tries to cut in at the top of the queue (I've seen it from impatient c*nts trying to skip the queue alright - but never from someone who's been driving so slowly that they've been overtaken before the queue)

25-10-2019 04:01PM

CramCycle wrote: »

It is so annoying, not because of the delay but because it's so damned rude.

It's also creating danger by forcing unnecessary overtaking.

The whole wait for a gap to overtake safely, overtake, get caught at the lights because you had to wait, ignorant sap jumps onto the path and back in front of you, no room to overtake because of traffic, wait for a gap to overtake ..... rinse ...... repeat..... thing does my head in at times.

Selfish, self-absorbed, "I'm alright Jack" mentality that you see in all walks of life. Pricks who won't take a door off you as you're stood there holding it for them, people who barge into lifts or onto trains before the others can get off, idiots hogging seats on public transport for their bag so nobody will sit beside them, sh1tebags who put their luggage into the overhead bin at row 3 even though they're seated in row 15 on a plane, the great, lumbering piles of redundant protoplasm who come to a complete stop as soon as they step off the escalators........Some folks are just so far stuck up their own holes that they either don't realise or don't care that they are having such a negative effect on everyone else just going about their business.

Wishbone Ash · 25-10-2019 04:12PM

blackwhite wrote: »

....When in the car, I've yet to see a line of cars stopped at lights where a car that was previously overtaken overtakes the line and tries to cut in at the top of the queue ...

That's a poor analogy as it's generally not physically possible for motorists to move to the front at lights even if they wish to do so.

Wishbone Ash · 25-10-2019 04:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

...Selfish, self-absorbed, "I'm alright Jack" mentality that you see in all walks of life. Pricks who won't take a door off you as you're stood there holding it for them, people who barge into lifts or onto trains before the others can get off, idiots hogging seats on public transport for their bag so nobody will sit beside them, sh1tebags who put their luggage into the overhead bin at row 3 even though they're seated in row 15 on a plane, the great, lumbering piles of redundant protoplasm who come to a complete stop as soon as they step off the escalators........Some folks are just so far stuck up their own holes that they either don't realise or don't care that they are having such a negative effect on everyone else just going about their business.

You forgot about those utter morons who push both direction buttons when they wish to use a lift and then have the audacity to ask "are you going up or down?" when the door opens. Press the direction you wish to travel you dimwit and stop slowing everything down for the rest of use! Drives me nuts!

tommythecat · 25-10-2019 04:43PM

droidus wrote: »

Shoaling is fine IF you know you are faster than the other cyclists in the queue. My rule is that if someone has previously overtaken me or looks likely to leave me in the dust I'll stay behind, otherwise I'll move up.

I always check the gears of the people in front of me and make a decision whether to shoal or not. If they are not in a high gear I will move in front as they will be very slow out of the traps. A large proportion of people have no idea how to use gears.

droidus · 25-10-2019 04:50PM

tommythecat wrote: »

I always check the gears of the people in front of me and make a decision whether to shoal or not. If they are not in a high gear I will move in front as they will be very slow out of the traps. A large proportion of people have no idea how to use gears.

Good call. That's one of the great things about hub gears - youre always in the right gear, though often I speed away from the lights and a proper cyclist catches up and has to overtake once they build up some speed.

micar · 25-10-2019 06:22PM

Kander wrote: »

Left hooked: https://streamable.com/8apa4

Yes I know I'm not perfect either in this going through the amber light. I just couldn't figure out why the overtake just to pull across.

I'd have done exactly the same. Clueless driver thinking that by the time I come to the junction, slow down and turn left that cyclist will still be "way" behind me.

I'd almost be close to going over and speaking to the motorist

John_Rambo · 25-10-2019 07:35PM

micar wrote: »

I'd have done exactly the same. Clueless driver thinking that by the time I come to the junction, slow down and turn left that cyclist will still be "way" behind me.

I'd almost be close to going over and speaking to the motorist

I think it's the biggest mistake motorists make regarding cyclists. Misjudging speeds (or just bad depth perception) and assuming all cyclists travel at 10kph which may have been the case when a certain vintage learned to drive.

CramCycle · 25-10-2019 07:52PM

Got hit by a cyclist in a shared space this afternoon. Doing about 20kmph, I came out of a building and started to jog as it was raining and we collided as we both came round a corner. Bruised hip as I hit the ground and shoulder is sore as the cyclist went straight over and speared my shoulder. All seemed OK and after we checked each over, off they went. I was more worried about them as their head hit my shoulder square on.

My jaw is now in pain though which is weird, and sitting is not pleasant, can't eat properly, hopefully just an annoyance.

Bussed it home though, wasn't going to cycle with my hip so sore.

RobertFoster · 25-10-2019 08:22PM

That's two cyclists in two days CramCycle. I think I'd stay indoors tomorrow...

25-10-2019 10:25PM

They say these things come in threes so watch out if he's about least you be victim number three

Seriously though hopefully nothing to be concerned about it's ok.

AndrewJRenko · 25-10-2019 10:32PM

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

You forgot about those utter morons who push both direction buttons when they wish to use a lift and then have the audacity to ask "are you going up or down?" when the door opens. Press the direction you wish to travel you dimwit and stop slowing everything down for the rest of use! Drives me nuts!

We should bring back capital punishment for lift abusers.

site_owner · 25-10-2019 10:33PM

I mostly post on Twitter but cross posting this as it was so bad

https://twitter.com/AlanDub13/status/1187822390203551744?s=19

25-10-2019 11:26PM

I was near ****ing myself watching that, what did he say? Sorry pal I didn't see ya???? after you sitting in front of him for the guts of 2 minutes and what if you didn't have the horn?????

I know your bike is a good length and you'd be encroaching on the crossing here if you moved further up but I think I'd at least keep further to the right after moving to the front to block dickheads like this. Shouldn't have to of course.

CramCycle · 25-10-2019 11:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I know your bike is a good length and you'd be encroaching on the crossing here if you moved further up but I think I'd at least keep further to the right after moving to the front to block dickheads like this. Shouldn't have to of course.

It would be almost impossible to not notice the site_owner here, being slightly further forward would have just meant he was definitely under the wheel, I don't think any position would have made a difference bar him climbing up on the windscreen and wiping his bare arse on the drivers side of the window.

site_owner · 26-10-2019 12:09AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I was near ****ing myself watching that, what did he say? Sorry pal I didn't see ya???? after you sitting in front of him for the guts of 2 minutes and what if you didn't have the horn?????

I know your bike is a good length and you'd be encroaching on the crossing here if you moved further up but I think I'd at least keep further to the right after moving to the front to block dickheads like this. Shouldn't have to of course.

The bikes 2.5m long, you can see me from a mile off

thousands of times I've been at this junction and this was just nonsense, primary isn't needed here, it's nice and wide and, in all honesty, this guy would probably have run through me.

Yeah, no horn and I'd be under a van I reckon.

He accused me of cutting up the inside and cycling into him. Go figure.

site_owner · 26-10-2019 12:10AM

CramCycle wrote: »

It would be almost impossible to not notice the site_owner here, being slightly further forward would have just meant he was definitely under the wheel, I don't think any position would have made a difference bar him climbing up on the windscreen and wiping his bare arse on the drivers side of the window.

That's an interesting visual !

26-10-2019 12:32AM

CramCycle wrote: »

It would be almost impossible to not notice the site_owner here, being slightly further forward would have just meant he was definitely under the wheel, I don't think any position would have made a difference bar him climbing up on the windscreen and wiping his bare arse on the drivers side of the window.

Agree and said pretty much said so, so reread what I posted. I think going to the front and keeping right would have prevented this and maybe he might have engaged the hand break and not sat on the clutch though maybe not given his ****ty driving. No problem with the OP's cycling and everything to do with the vans ****ty driving but sometimes you need to prevent stupid from being stupid.

5uspect · 26-10-2019 02:23PM

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

That's a poor analogy as it's generally not physically possible for motorists to move to the front at lights even if they wish to do so.

I beg to differ, :pac: Mr. White Van driver here enters the compulsory cycle lane, mounts the footpath just to get ahead at the lights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVrzeNMFDLE

I managed to get ahead of him and made him wait at the lights much to his annoyance.

CramCycle · 26-10-2019 04:29PM

RobertFoster wrote: »

That's two cyclists in two days CramCycle. I think I'd stay indoors tomorrow...

I am very uncomfortable at the minute. Pain in jaw, sore to sit, shoulders have restricted movement. I just want to sleep for a bit.

RobertFoster · 26-10-2019 04:46PM

CramCycle wrote: »

I am very uncomfortable at the minute. Pain in jaw, sore to sit, shoulders have restricted movement. I just want to sleep for a bit.

Sounds like you need to get yourself checked out tbh.

26-10-2019 05:14PM

Yeah sounds like you took a fair old wallop.

blackwhite · 27-10-2019 11:07AM

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

That's a poor analogy as it's generally not physically possible for motorists to move to the front at lights even if they wish to do so.

I’ve seen many instances where some asshat drives up a turning lane, then throws on an indicator and noses across to the top of the queue.

Pinch Flat · 27-10-2019 01:57PM

Two nack bags in a 2008 BMW 3-Series thought it’d be good craic to buzz me in the bus lane (other lane free) at Blanchardstown earlier. They were going so fast that they screeched to a halt at the red light, well in advance of the bike box and last white line. People crossing (looked like a group of Spanish students) got a bit of a shock. I was sure he was going to hit them.

I drew along side at the ref light. Making sure to ignore them. The radio on the car with their knackery music gets turned up, presumably for a reaction. Lights go green, they screech off to the next red lights. Hey, if your knackery parents didn’t give you attention growing up, I’m certainly not going to give it when you’re driving around like a complete clown. I was thinking cycling off that statistically they’ll be unlikely to live to my age (nearly 50) if they continue like that.

micar · 27-10-2019 03:38PM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Two nack bags in a 2008 BMW 3-Series thought it’d be good craic to buzz me in the bus lane (other lane free) at Blanchardstown earlier. They were going so fast that they screeched to a halt at the red light, well in advance of the bike box and last white line. People crossing (looked like a group of Spanish students) got a bit of a shock. I was sure he was going to hit them.

I drew along side at the ref light. Making sure to ignore them. The radio on the car with their knackery music gets turned up, presumably for a reaction. Lights go green, they screech off to the next red lights. Hey, if your knackery parents didn’t give you attention growing up, I’m certainly not going to give it when you’re driving around like a complete clown. I was thinking cycling off that statistically they’ll be unlikely to live to my age (nearly 50) if they continue like that.

Fu(k that sh1t.

Ring traffic watch and report the driver of dangerous driving.

Effects · 04-11-2019 08:14PM

Taxi driver, just speeding up the cycle lane to avoid the traffic queue on Stephen's Green.
Can you report stuff like this?

magicbastarder · 04-11-2019 08:24PM

i was driving yesterday, coming from a minor road and turning left onto a major road, so obviously primarily focussed on traffic coming from the right. about 100m or 200m up to my right, a double decker bus was stopped, so i was concerned that there might be overtaking traffic obscured by the bus, so i was making sure there wasn't before i pulled out and swung left - and realised i hadn't seen a cyclist to my left; he was stopped in the lane, seemed to be having trouble clipping in, and must have been there for at least 5 seconds without me copping him. as it was, i wouldn't have hit him regardless, but it did startle me that i managed to not see him.

ED E · 04-11-2019 09:20PM

Effects wrote: »

Taxi driver, just speeding up the cycle lane to avoid the traffic queue on Stephen's Green.
Can you report stuff like this?

NTA wont take non pax complaints. Traffic watch is your avenue to report it but expect the least enthusiastic response possible. AGS operate "no contact no foul" when it comes to TW.

Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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