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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Had very similar happen me a few weeks back in road works. Temporary lights and a one way system was in operation causing a long queue, approx 20 meters back from the lights was the entrance to a housing estate and a guy at the back couldn't wait. I was filtering along the inside of the queue approaching the entrance to the estate when I heard a car accelerating as he was passing the cars in the queue to cut in to the estate. I began to slow suspecting that might happen and at the same time the driver in the queue at the entrance saw what was about to happen e.g. the car would turn in front of him into the estate and cut it very close to me and pulled forward to block him. Cue lots of beeping from the impatient queue skipper but fair play to that driver for being alert enough to see what could happen!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,002 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    crisco10 wrote: »
    She's still there?? first saw her back in may-ish or so and she was taping me waiting to go thru the lights. then screamed at a woman on a bike as she went by,. ...

    takes all sorts.
    Which junction? Any description? Would be nice to give her a big smile and a friendly wave?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    MOD VOICE: Her name is on her instagram, lets not start some weird doxxing thing against someone who is easlily identifiable. We are not lije some of those weird sites promoting such behaviour. If she is doing something illegal or dangerous, go to the gardai, lets not start any witch hunts agianst someone who so far just seems to be really annoying and nothing else.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,755 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    near miss i witnessed earlier, thankfully not a near miss for me - on this section of road earlier, which is a slight downhill so i was probably doing 35km/h plus.
    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4827513,-6.3302434,3a,75y,1.01h,88.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stQxzhLU4g4q1-dLz2eKprw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
    i was overtaken by one car, and then a second; not the greatest place to overtake a cyclist, but hey ho. but the second motorist, instead of pulling in, stayed in the oncoming lane to overtake the first one, who just at that moment decided to delay pulling back into lane fully - i think to avoid a branch on the road, and this happened just as the second one was pulling alongside. so he had to slam on, but then gunned it anyway to get past. it's not a straight road; 200m later i passed two cyclists going in the opposite direction, so if the timing had been a little more coincidental, it would possibly have - at best - put the heart crossways in them.

    then abuot two hours later, a chap in a northern reg small commercial van overtook me on a blind bend on another country lane, forcing an oncoming motorist to drop his or her wheels off the side of the road. low slung merc, i belt they got quite a jolt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Odd one this morning. At the crossroads of Aungier Street and Stephen Street, heading towards Dame Street. 3 cyclists at the light waiting. It goes green, we all go to set off, and a taxi blasts through the red from our left, straight through the junction. The 3 of us hesitate, one of the lads wobbles a bit, and the car behind sits on the horn. :rolleyes:

    I gave him a confused look at continue on. He pulls up beside me at Dame St junction. I said "there's no need for that, we knew it was green, but the taxi flew through red"

    "Oh I know, the other guy on the bike wobbled a bit so I beeped to let him know I was behind him".

    Uh, what?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Black van overtook me in Shankill with oncoming traffic and me doing the speed limit, but anyways. Round the next corner he brake checks a car behind him, not sure if intentional or not but on we go. Get to the roundabout at Loughlinstown and I move into the right lane as I am turning right. Black van indicates left in the left lane and then proceeds to go round the entire roundabout to turn right. Winds down his window to let me know there is a cycle lane over there (points randomly to his left). I cannot respond properly because unlike him, I am focused on the road. He then proceeds to berate me for 100m, while I am trying to wait for him to move on so I can move into the left lane he cut me up on.

    Not sure why he was wearing Latex gloves while driving, that left me a tad uncomfortable.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    First video with my new camera (presumably the first of many :rolleyes:)
    Last Wednesday as I was passing Westmanstown, silver Fiesta decided to overtake me as another car was approaching in the opposite direction.
    Not blaming myself but normally I would have been further to my right not giving her the opportunity to overtake.
    I also left the bit in early on as people who know this stretch know that traffic would easily build up behind you. I pulled into a narrow hard shoulder out of courtest to let them pass. This hard shoulder wasn't along the stretch where she passed me...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Odd one this morning. At the crossroads of Aungier Street and Stephen Street, heading towards Dame Street. 3 cyclists at the light waiting. It goes green, we all go to set off, and a taxi blasts through the red from our left, straight through the junction. The 3 of us hesitate, one of the lads wobbles a bit, and the car behind sits on the horn. :rolleyes:

    I gave him a confused look at continue on. He pulls up beside me at Dame St junction. I said "there's no need for that, we knew it was green, but the taxi flew through red"

    "Oh I know, the other guy on the bike wobbled a bit so I beeped to let him know I was behind him".

    Uh, what?

    This junction is an accident waiting to happen. Cyclists setting off early from the lights are going to get creamed by a car at speed blasting through an aged red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Unknown Soldier


    tnegun wrote: »
    <snip>

    On the misreading lights the worst junction has got to be the long mile and naas road coming from the nangor rd side. Almost every few minutes someone sees the next set go green and break a red light.

    It's a very regular thing, but the lights are not great tbh. I saw this the day you posted. You can't see it from the video, but the lad in the wrong was giving it loads to the traffic in the right :D

    For those who don't know the junction, the lights high up in the distance are not for my lane, those lights are right beside me. The far lights are for the traffic that yer man is annoyed with.

    It can be confusing if it is your first time there.

    https://streamable.com/r8mah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭purple hands


    I was lucky to be a bit back in the queue, but a few cyclists ahead of me turning right at Harold's Cross Bridge to go down the canal (from HX side) had very close calls with oncoming traffic.

    Sequencing of the right-turn filter light changed so that it comes on long after the green lights, instead of at the same time, but they had gone ahead unaware of the change. They probably should have waited, but second nature to go ahead perhaps. Preferred the sequencing the old way. Being stuck in limbo in the right-turn box with 3-4 cars trying to squeeze by you isn't a fun time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    I was lucky to be a bit back in the queue, but a few cyclists ahead of me turning right at Harold's Cross Bridge to go down the canal (from HX side) had very close calls with oncoming traffic.

    Sequencing of the right-turn filter light changed so that it comes on long after the green lights, instead of at the same time, but they had gone ahead unaware of the change. They probably should have waited, but second nature to go ahead perhaps. Preferred the sequencing the old way. Being stuck in limbo in the right-turn box with 3-4 cars trying to squeeze by you isn't a fun time.

    If the sequencing of some lights around Dublin City Centre was changed, i'd definitely get into a spot of bother in places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭CorkClaire82


    I was lucky to be a bit back in the queue, but a few cyclists ahead of me turning right at Harold's Cross Bridge to go down the canal (from HX side) had very close calls with oncoming traffic.

    Sequencing of the right-turn filter light changed so that it comes on long after the green lights, instead of at the same time, but they had gone ahead unaware of the change. They probably should have waited, but second nature to go ahead perhaps. Preferred the sequencing the old way. Being stuck in limbo in the right-turn box with 3-4 cars trying to squeeze by you isn't a fun time.

    That sequencing only changed to right arrow first in the past year and now it's gone back. I think right arrow first is miles better having experienced both but like you I was a bit back so luckily didn't go. There's no sign to alert you to the change in sequence either so it's confusing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    That sequencing only changed to right arrow first in the past year and now it's gone back. I think right arrow first is miles better having experienced both but like you I was a bit back so luckily didn't go. There's no sign to alert you to the change in sequence either so it's confusing.

    I've always wondered if the City Council would notify the public if they were changing sequencing, but i suppose the onus is on the road user to react what is in front of them and not 'expect' it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭purple hands


    I've always wondered if the City Council would notify the public if they were changing sequencing, but i suppose the onus is on the road user to react what is in front of them and not 'expect' it.

    I have seen notification signs once before when sequencing was changed for the pedestrian and bike lights on Sam Beckett Bridge, but even that was minimal and ignored!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭Fian


    It's a very regular thing, but the lights are not great tbh. I saw this the day you posted. You can't see it from the video, but the lad in the wrong was giving it loads to the traffic in the right :D

    For those who don't know the junction, the lights high up in the distance are not for my lane, those lights are right beside me. The far lights are for the traffic that yer man is annoyed with.

    It can be confusing if it is your first time there.

    https://streamable.com/r8mah

    They have changed the sequence on this junction (milltown / clonskeagh near ranelagh):

    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3183326,-6.2417935,3a,75y,334.15h,85.2t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjVlwR9_Jt0IcU0CRQqmhLQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DjVlwR9_Jt0IcU0CRQqmhLQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D60.556324%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

    Stopped giving a straight ahead filter arrow because too many motorists were turning left on it accross a pedestrian crossing that is showing green. Its a pity really because the straight on arrow let cyclists stopped at lights get ahead of traffic planning to turn left to head towards Milltown and avoid left hooks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,501 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    It's a very regular thing, but the lights are not great tbh. I saw this the day you posted. You can't see it from the video, but the lad in the wrong was giving it loads to the traffic in the right :D

    For those who don't know the junction, the lights high up in the distance are not for my lane, those lights are right beside me. The far lights are for the traffic that yer man is annoyed with.

    It can be confusing if it is your first time there.

    https://streamable.com/r8mah

    Doesn't help you have people in the left lane driving over the lane marker into the second lane. Very surprised I haven't been hit by someone when driving in front of me going through in the second lane in the car.

    Also doesn't help the painted lane markers are usually under traffic close to the lights.

    Understandably a tricky junction, but once you realise everyone is coming from the right you tend to notice it!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Jesus, white cargo bike on the N11, turning right towards the Lep Inn. Red Light for everyone, she hooked it from the bus lane but paying no attention the approaching traffic got a green just as she crossed. Thankfully the bus driver copped what was happening and lay on the horn to warn the lads about to jump the gun. She very classily gave the driver the finger and started roaring

    There were three kids in the front, really classy cycling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Colleague in work got knocked off his bike this morning commuting to work. Motorist pulled across him from a side road. All good - bit bruised and sore, got checked out at the hospital.

    Came up as a topic of conservation at lunch time. “They break red lights all the time”, “saw one the other day without a helmet”, “what do you think of electric scooters”. Makes you wonder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    Fian wrote: »
    They have changed the sequence on this junction (milltown / clonskeagh near ranelagh):

    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3183326,-6.2417935,3a,75y,334.15h,85.2t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjVlwR9_Jt0IcU0CRQqmhLQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DjVlwR9_Jt0IcU0CRQqmhLQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D60.556324%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

    Stopped giving a straight ahead filter arrow because too many motorists were turning left on it accross a pedestrian crossing that is showing green. Its a pity really because the straight on arrow let cyclists stopped at lights get ahead of traffic planning to turn left to head towards Milltown and avoid left hooks.
    God forbid they’d actually police it.


  • Posts: 3,330 [Deleted User]


    I just got left hooked by a car pulling into a parking space at Merrion Square. Tapped on his window after he parked and told him he cut across me in the cycle lane. His response was that his indicator was on. So I just explained that he wouldn't do that manoeuvre if it was a car inside him and went off on my way.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Got hit this morning, cyclist went into the back of me at a roundabout. No harm done but his excuse was he didn't think I was going to stop. Why would I not stop, there was two buses going around the roundabout. He needs coffee before getting on his bike.
    Sound effects are very dramatic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Video comes up as private.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Effects wrote: »
    Video comes up as private.

    Try it now, it is very unremarkable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Got hit this morning, cyclist went into the back of me at a roundabout. No harm done but his excuse was he didn't think I was going to stop. Why would I not stop, there was two buses going around the roundabout. He needs coffee before getting on his bike.
    Sound effects are very dramatic

    I love that kind of excuse - not just holding his hands up and saying he was in the wrong for cycling too close behind you, not paying enough attention, not even allowing for very normal and predictable actions.

    You can see that he briefly takes his eyes off you just as you're beginning to brake too.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Got hit this morning, cyclist went into the back of me at a roundabout. No harm done but his excuse was he didn't think I was going to stop. Why would I not stop, there was two buses going around the roundabout. He needs coffee before getting on his bike.
    Sound effects are very dramatic

    What a complete muppet, paying no attention is more like it


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What is the situation with box junctions? With cars turning across the box, should a cyclist stop to let them across them pass?
    Its risky if car cant see a cyclist passing on inside. I stopped, and was shouted by another cyclist behind..."hey, you are breaking the code".
    Roads joining Ranelagh road, are really dangerous with this sort of driver behaviour.
    Theres also the crazy lady filming cyclists each morning, with commentary.
    https://twitter.com/Barrywfinnegan/status/1186973101185294341
    :pac:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I love that kind of excuse - not just holding his hands up and saying he was in the wrong for cycling too close behind you, not paying enough attention, not even allowing for very normal and predictable actions.

    You can see that he briefly takes his eyes off you just as you're beginning to brake too.

    Track bike vs Disc brakes as well, pffft :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    You were hit by a complete Fred :pac:

    That helmet angle makes my teeth hurt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,002 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Colleague in work got knocked off his bike this morning commuting to work. Motorist pulled across him from a side road. All good - bit bruised and sore, got checked out at the hospital.

    Came up as a topic of conservation at lunch time. “They break red lights all the time”, “saw one the other day without a helmet”, “what do you think of electric scooters”. Makes you wonder.
    No road tax mentions? Lightweights.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    No road tax mentions? Lightweights.

    Yeah, no mention of insurance. I'm sure it'll come up again when people are talking about the "dangers of cycling" over lunch another time. Perhaps "road tax" and insurance are the answer after all.:pac:


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