Apple TV+

DubDJ · 01-11-2019 8:10am #1

Apple’s new TV service just went live. A few episodes (seems like the first 3) of some of the shows now available.

Cost’s only €4.99 a month. If you bought an iPhone, iPad, iPod, Mac or Apple TV anytime after the keynote (September 10th) you’re eligible to a free year of the service.

Also, anybody with a Apple Music student account gets free access to the service.

It seems to be on a few devices from companies other than Apple like Samsung TV’s, Roku boxes and Amazon’s fire lineup.

Anybody planning on signing up? I get free access with my Apple Music student account so I’ll be streaming though a Roku. There’s already about 5 shows I’m interested in and a movie or two so I’ll give it a shot. Really good value and the shows seem to have decent production value behind them. It’ll be interesting seeing how it takes off.

Eire Go Brach · 01-11-2019 8:27am

Just looking there on my iPhone. Have it free for the year.
Reminds me of Amazon prime. You don’t know what’s free and what’s paid. Clicking into everything to see it’s a cost. Kinda Of annoying. So far the show there were announced are the only things free.
Had this starzplay thing to subscribe to as well not familiar with that.

First impressions. Not really impressed. But I am only looking on Iphone.

DubDJ · 01-11-2019 8:39am

They’re basically mixing iTunes movie content in with the Apple TV+ stuff. It seems like Apple still don’t offer TV shows on the Irish Store, but a few shows are available from StarzTV at a €4.99 subscription. Think Apple calls these ‘Channels’ and they can be subscribed to so you have all your subscriptions in one place.

Looks like only a handful of shows available at launch. I don’t mind, I don’t binge watch shows and prefer the staggered release every week to be honest.

donfers · 01-11-2019 4:02pm

About 6 or 7 shows on it as far as I can see which is absolutely tiny compared with both Amazon and Netflix....

Bob24 · 01-11-2019 5:03pm

Half a dozen TV series which had to go through Apple’s Californian morale and political correctness filter ... as it stands I don’t even know if I will watch anything even though I have the one year free trial (and I certainly wouldn’t pay anything for it).

But then again, I’m probably just not the target audience (if something like the criterion collection streaming service was available here, it is the kind of thing I’d be very happy to pay for).

Shred · 01-11-2019 5:58pm

I got a year free with an iPad purchase recently. I'll certainly give 'For all Mankind' (although it looks a bit melodramatic from the trailer), 'The Morning Show' and possibly 'See' a go for a start anyway. It's great to see most are in both Dolby Vision and Atmos too.

jack presley · 01-11-2019 8:16pm

Got it free as well and watched the first episode of TMS. Not bad I thought, I'll watch another episode later.

I agree it would be better if the TV shows were separated from the films you have to buy/rent to watch. I know there is a little TV+ icon in the bottom left of the icon for the TV shows but it would be better for browsing if you could just see the TV shows. Maybe when they get more content they'll do that.

DubDJ · 01-11-2019 9:53pm

Watched the first episode of The Morning Show. Looks decent so far, I watch a lot of different shows so I’m open to all types in general. Glad to see the rumours of Apple making the shows family friendly weren’t strictly true. Plenty of explicit language and themes in the first episode. Looking forward to watching some of the other shows in the next few days.

Agent Coulson · 01-11-2019 10:45pm

See definitely isn't family friendly

murpho999 · 01-11-2019 11:38pm

donfers wrote: »

About 6 or 7 shows on it as far as I can see which is absolutely tiny compared with both Amazon and Netflix....

Well in fairness it's only launched.

I'll get it free for a year.

However, I don't like that they mix in movies you can by or rent. Should be separate and easy to distinguish.

Also, only 3 episodes available of each series apart 'Dickonson' is what I can see.

Finally, no smart TV apps yet to enable to watch on TV as I'm not going to buy an Apple TV to access their shows on my TV and somethings I don't want to watch on a phone or tablet.

Bob24 · 01-11-2019 11:56pm

murpho999 wrote: »

However, I don't like that they mix in movies you can by or rent. Should be separate and easy to distinguish.

Yep that seems really unpractical.

murpho999 wrote: »

Finally, no smart TV apps yet to enable to watch on TV as I'm not going to buy an Apple TV to access their shows on my TV and somethings I don't want to watch on a phone or tablet.

Might be the case with your specific TV, but as far as I have read they actually made a large effort to have it available on as many platforms as possible at launch (Roku, Fire TV, and a few brands of Smart TVs with more coming - so you might be covered soon).

murpho999 · 02-11-2019 12:01am

Bob24 wrote: »

Yep that seems really unpractical.

Might be the case with your specific TV, but as far as I have read they actually made a large effort to have it available on as many platforms as possible at launch (Roku, Fire TV, and quite a few brands of Smart TVs).

I have an LG TV smart TV. How difficult could it have been to have an app ready at launch.

I find Apple bad at this. Same as Apple Music no third party device apps unlike when you compare to Spotify that is on TVs, Sky TV, Xbox , Playstation etc.

I think Apple want people to buy Apple TVs but I think they'd have more subscribers to their services if it was more easily accessible. Airplay 2 not on all devices either.

Agent Coulson · 02-11-2019 12:07am

The mixing of Original free content and for sale or rent content is an Amazon trick to get you to buy more stuff that you can't get for free.

Bob24 · 02-11-2019 12:22am

murpho999 wrote: »

I have an LG TV smart TV. How difficult could it have been to have an app ready at launch.

I find Apple bad at this. Same as Apple Music no third party device apps unlike when you compare to Spotify that is on TVs, Sky TV, Xbox , Playstation etc.

I think Apple want people to buy Apple TVs but I think they'd have more subscribers to their services if it was more easily accessible. Airplay 2 not on all devices either.

I get the frustration, but remember it is Apple. The simple fact of having it available on non Apple platforms at launch is more than they’ve done with most other services. And supporting direct competitors’ hardware such as Roku and the Fire TV is some kind of revolution for them.

sandyxxx · 02-11-2019 9:39am

Signed up for a free year after a recent iPhone purchase,.....wasn’t immediately offered through the app but was through https://offers.appletvapp.apple/........is Apple Music included??

Bob24 · 02-11-2019 9:47am

sandyxxx wrote: »

Signed up for a free year after a recent iPhone purchase,.....wasn’t immediately offered through the app but was through https://offers.appletvapp.apple/........is Apple Music included??

Nope.

I think for now they see Apple TV+ as a goodie to push hardware sales while Apple Music is a real service (and also since they own all the contents on TV+ So it is easier to offer free and long trials as the expense have been made already and their don’t need to pay royalties each time you watch an episode).

Shred · 02-11-2019 10:14am

I didn't get to watch anything last night after all.

As an aside, does anyone know why the TV app doesn't show all movies in my library? For instance, I got all of the Alien movies for €15 a while ago but not one of them appears in the App everything is available in the regular Movies app

Creamy Goodness · 02-11-2019 10:35am

murpho999 wrote: »

I have an LG TV smart TV. How difficult could it have been to have an app ready at launch.

I find Apple bad at this. Same as Apple Music no third party device apps unlike when you compare to Spotify that is on TVs, Sky TV, Xbox , Playstation etc.

I think Apple want people to buy Apple TVs but I think they'd have more subscribers to their services if it was more easily accessible. Airplay 2 not on all devices either.

2019 LG TVs have an Apple TV + app my 2018 doesn’t same boat as yourself. This leads me to believe theres something blocking Apple on this. Samsung TVs from 2018 and above have it so...

Here’s a full list https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-app/devices/

You can see LG are lacking compared to others. I would love an app for my 2018 oled cause I don’t want a 4K Apple TV either as I have the 1080p version and wanted to wait for a refresh of hardware.

You don’t need to buy an Apple TV for it, Amazon’s 4K stock and Roku’s stick have an app and can be got for a fraction of an Apple TV.

murpho999 · 02-11-2019 11:24am

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

2019 LG TVs have an Apple TV + app my 2018 doesn’t same boat as yourself. This leads me to believe theres something blocking Apple on this. Samsung TVs from 2018 and above have it so...

Here’s a full list https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-app/devices/

You can see LG are lacking compared to others. I would love an app for my 2018 oled cause I don’t want a 4K Apple TV either as I have the 1080p version and wanted to wait for a refresh of hardware.

You don’t need to buy an Apple TV for it, Amazon’s 4K stock and Roku’s stick have an app and can be got for a fraction of an Apple TV.

Thanks for the lists.

I have no desire or need for a Amazon or Roku stick. I don't want an extra device to watch Apple TV + stuff. That's my point.

DubDJ · 02-11-2019 12:16pm

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

2019 LG TVs have an Apple TV + app my 2018 doesn’t same boat as yourself. This leads me to believe theres something blocking Apple on this. Samsung TVs from 2018 and above have it so...

Here’s a full list https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-app/devices/

You can see LG are lacking compared to others. I would love an app for my 2018 oled cause I don’t want a 4K Apple TV either as I have the 1080p version and wanted to wait for a refresh of hardware.

You don’t need to buy an Apple TV for it, Amazon’s 4K stock and Roku’s stick have an app and can be got for a fraction of an Apple TV.

I don’t believe LG tv’s have the Apple TV app at all. Only Samsung tv’s have the app installed, LG added support for Airplay 2 and HomePod to their 2019 TV lineup.

DubDJ · 02-11-2019 12:18pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Thanks for the lists.

I have no desire or need for a Amazon or Roku stick. I don't want an extra device to watch Apple TV + stuff. That's my point.

I was the same, I picked up a Roku stick to watch the shows through. Hoping the app eventually comes to the LG tv lineup and I’ll just get rid of the Roku stick.

I know the service is available through tv.apple.com but I’m not sure how well it works though a tv’s built-in web browser.

murpho999 · 02-11-2019 12:58pm

BBC have given Apple's big flagship show "The Morning Show" a terrible review.

Link to review.

jack presley · 02-11-2019 1:13pm

murpho999 wrote: »

BBC have given Apple's big flagship show "The Morning Show" a terrible review.

Link to review.

They also gave El Camino a terrible review so I won’t read too much into what they think.

Eire Go Brach · 02-11-2019 2:14pm

They don’t really have a choice. They need to get the app on everything. That’s why Netflix and Spotify are so popular. There business model of having excellent software to sell hardware won’t work with music and video.

And let’s be honest. Only reason tv+ is free is no one would pay for it. Content is so limited.

Creamy Goodness · 02-11-2019 2:19pm

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

And let’s be honest. Only reason tv+ is free is no one would pay for it. Content is so limited.

I think it’s too early to judge it. Better to see the list of content 12 months from now. Apple are doing pretty much 100% own content. Think Netflix without any back catalogue.

jack presley wrote: »

They also gave El Camino a terrible review so I won’t read too much into what they think.

El Camino deserved that review. It was 2 hours of going nowhere.

DubDJ · 02-11-2019 2:24pm

One thing though, their tv UI is so much better than anything else I’ve used (Netflix, Prime, NowTV). It’s just so fluid and the animations are great, that’s even running on a third party Roku device.

dubmick · 02-11-2019 5:24pm

murpho999 wrote: »

BBC have given Apple's big flagship show "The Morning Show" a terrible review.

Link to review.

Haven't watched it myself but the Guardian gave it a five star review.

02-11-2019 5:29pm

I got a free sub for it with an iphone but is there anything actually free to watch on it with the subscription? Everything I go to watch is looking further payment.

Sad Professor · 02-11-2019 6:12pm

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I got a free sub for it with an iphone but is there anything actually free to watch on it with the subscription? Everything I go to watch is looking further payment.

Yes, full list: Morning Show, See, Dickinson, For all mankind, Oprah book club, and some kids stuff.

pad199207 · 02-11-2019 6:17pm

This Morning Show seems to be decent. A platform for showing off iPhones anyways, don’t think I’ve ever seen so much iPhone usage in a tv show!

Not an android to be seen and rightly so!

02-11-2019 6:21pm

pad199207 wrote: »

This Morning Show seems to be decent. A platform for showing off iPhones anyways, don’t think I’ve ever seen so much iPhone usage in a tv show!

Not an android to be seen and rightly so!

Apple beat android 2-1 after extra time. You can be very proud.

jack presley · 02-11-2019 6:23pm

Everyone (bar one I think) has their phone on silent/vibrate as well.

DubDJ · 02-11-2019 6:42pm

I’ve only watched the first two episodes of The Morning Show so far but I’m liking it. Episode 2 is especially good. I think the fact it comes for free with the student music plan makes it easier to enjoy in fairness. If I was paying I’d be more critical. Until Apple adds a substantial amount of extra content I can’t see anybody pay for it. Hopefully it gets better as the months go on. With Disney+ and Apple TV+ its only going to be better for consumers.

Funny, I never notice product placement in movies and tv shows. I either overlook it or am actually subliminally being advertised to

Bob24 · 02-11-2019 8:06pm

DubDJ wrote: »

With Disney+ and Apple TV+ its only going to be better for consumers.

I don’t know - I’m not looking forward to a world whereby a couple of US companies start building an almost oligopoly on content production and distribution globally. It might seem great at first when they are giving cheap/free access but in the long term I think it will result in content uniformisation and not so cheap service.

Shn99 · 02-11-2019 8:51pm

Just binge watched The Morning Show, Im impressed with the production quality giving how new Apple are to this. Cant wait for Season 2

DubDJ · 02-11-2019 9:30pm

Bob24 wrote: »

I don’t know - I’m not looking forward to a world whereby a couple of US companies start building an almost oligopoly on content production and distribution globally. It might seem great at first when they are giving cheap/free access but in the long term I think it will result in content uniformisation and not so cheap service.

While Netflix, Disney, Apple already being established companies with a lot of cash behind them, there are also other competitors such as HBO Max, Amazon Prime, NowTV etc. The more the better in my opinion. Although Netflix is still the king at the moment, I can see things starting to change in the coming months. There’s far more choice than just a couple of providers. Even more local options such as RTE/Virgin Media players and BBC player are adding to that mix.

I know not all these services are, or will be, available in Ireland but I think as long as there’s competition popping up it means the days of the rip-off sky and VM tv packages will be numbered. I find the mix of content available to be really varied and there will always be more niche services such as Shudder which adds to the competition.

notahappycamper · 03-11-2019 10:51am

I think Disney + will be the one to beat in terms of pricing if you get Hulu bundled too. It will be interesting to see if Disney create any new shows like Apple are doing. It should be releasing here early next year.

Creamy Goodness · 03-11-2019 11:45am

I’m liking the morning show so far. Love to know where the rumour of Apple TV+ being family friendly came from. Within the first minute someone said f*ck and within 20 minutes the line “I didn’t jizz into a flower in front of anyone” made me lol. Whilst you don’t need profanity to make a good show it just shows you can never really believe the rumours.

03-11-2019 11:55am

Only an episode in so far but will definitely watch more.

Creamy Goodness · 03-11-2019 12:05pm

Mr.S wrote: »

The constant iPhone promo is quite funny

In fairness if you walked into any studio in america you’d be hard pushed to find an android phone.

Shn99 · 03-11-2019 12:17pm

Will licensed content appear on Apple TV+ in the future or will it just be Apple originals?

03-11-2019 12:26pm

There’s no way to watch this on a TV without an Apple TV box is there? Me and the boss were going to watch this together but there’s only one ipad in the house and we’re not huddling around that.

Shn99 · 03-11-2019 12:32pm

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

There’s no way to watch this on a TV without an Apple TV box is there? Me and the boss were going to watch this together but there’s only one ipad in the house and we’re not huddling around that.

Supposedly an app coming out on Smart TVs at the end of the month

Sad Professor · 03-11-2019 12:34pm

Shn99 wrote: »

Will licensed content appear on Apple TV+ in the future or will it just be Apple originals?

Eventually maybe but I wouldn't hold my breath. Apple have been trying to do deal with content providers for a streaming bundle for years without success. The writing is on the wall for licensed catalogues anyway. The studios have been turning the screws on Netflix for a while now.

Eire Go Brach · 03-11-2019 12:39pm

Shn99 wrote: »

Supposedly an app coming out on Smart TVs at the end of the month

Already on some of the newer TV,s Lg and Samsung. Also on the Roku.

03-11-2019 12:44pm

I’ve a Shield and I’m guessing we’ll never see an app for that. Tried install an AirPlay receiver too and it didn’t work.

hetuzozaho · 03-11-2019 12:50pm

I'm watching the The Morning show on my MacBook now, so this show needs no subscription then?

bluemachaveli · 03-11-2019 12:55pm

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I'm watching the The Morning show on my MacBook now, so this show needs no subscription then?

First episode is free, need a sub or trial after that.

Bob24 · 03-11-2019 1:06pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

Eventually maybe but I wouldn't hold my breath. Apple have been trying to do deal with content providers for a streaming bundle for years without success. The writing is on the wall for licensed catalogues anyway. The studios have been turning the screws on Netflix for a while now.

I also think limiting it to its own content is a deliberate strategy from Apple so they they can keep things simple and roll out the exact same thing in every market.

DubDJ · 03-11-2019 1:22pm

Right now Apple are focusing on original content only, there’s no details on if they’ll eventually offer a back catalog, maybe they’ll buy a company and use that to fill in the gaps. Right now they seem to be the only one offering purely original stuff.

Regarding availability, you can watch Apple TV+ on iPhone/iPod/iPad, Mac, Apple TV. It’s also available on the web at tv.apple.com.

App is on Amazon fire sticks and Roku as well. The only smart tv that has the app at the moment is the Samsung one, looks like Sony is about to release an app very soon.

Really annoying LG tv’s don’t have the app or plans to add it yet. Seems one of the biggest manufacturers and annoying not having it.

I can see the app eventually making its way to android, if they have Apple Music there and there’s already a lot of devices supporting the tv app it seems like only a matter of time. FireTV is a fork on Android anyway so most of the work is probably already done.

Watched all the available episodes of the Morning Show, really enjoyed it. Think I’ll give See a watch next, that and For All Mankind are the only other two I was mainly looking forward to.

03-11-2019 1:38pm

DubDJ wrote: »

Right now Apple are focusing on original content only, there’s no details on if they’ll eventually offer a back catalog, maybe they’ll buy a company and use that to fill in the gaps. Right now they seem to be the only one offering purely original stuff.

Regarding availability, you can watch Apple TV+ on iPhone/iPod/iPad, Mac, Apple TV. It’s also available on the web at tv.apple.com.

App is on Amazon fire sticks and Roku as well. The only smart tv that has the app at the moment is the Samsung one, looks like Sony is about to release an app very soon.

Really annoying LG tv’s don’t have the app or plans to add it yet. Seems one of the biggest manufacturers and annoying not having it.

I can see the app eventually making its way to android, if they have Apple Music there and there’s already a lot of devices supporting the tv app it seems like only a matter of time. FireTV is a fork on Android anyway so most of the work is probably already done.

Watched all the available episodes of the Morning Show, really enjoyed it. Think I’ll give See a watch next, that and For All Mankind are the only other two I was mainly looking forward to.

Nice one, never thought of that. That'll work on the Shield.

Apple TV+

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