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    #7412
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,027 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Busy day today

    Western Intermediate Hurling final between Ballysaggart and Ardmore takes place at 2.30. Be good for Ballysaggart and the Bennett brothers to play senior club hurling in Waterford but Ardmore wont lie down easy. They enjoyed there year last year after the AI win no doubt but really knuckled down this year

    Eastern Intermediate hurling final Ballygunner Intermediates vs Dunhill at 3.15.

    Eastern Junior A hurling final Ballydurn vs Tramore at 1.30

    Senior football semis finals also take place
    Rathgormack vs Stradbally (5.30)
    Ballinacourty vs The Nire (7pm)


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    #7413
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,027 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    East Junior A Hurling Final- Ballydurn 3-14- Tramore 0-12

    Ballydurn will play either Abbeyside or St Marys (West Final 12th Oct) in the county Junior A final


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    #7414
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Busy day today

    Western Intermediate Hurling final between Ballysaggart and Ardmore takes place at 2.30. Be good for Ballysaggart and the Bennett brothers to play senior club hurling in Waterford but Ardmore wont lie down easy. They enjoyed there year last year after the AI win no doubt but really knuckled down this year

    Eastern Intermediate hurling final Ballygunner Intermediates vs Dunhill at 3.15.

    Eastern Junior A hurling final Ballydurn vs Tramore at 1.30

    Senior football semis finals also take place
    Rathgormack vs Stradbally (5.30)
    Ballinacourty vs The Nire (7pm)

    I presume them intermediate finals are basically county semi finals?? Just asking as the winners of Waterford intermediate play Kerry Senior champions in Munster....


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    #7415
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,027 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://twitter.com/tomasmcc/status/1180859457934430208?s=19


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    #7416
    cul beag
    Registered Users Posts: 969 ✭✭✭cul beag


    So we have Ballygunner v Ballysaggart county intermediate final. What are the official permutations regarding Ballygunner if they win it? Do they go up automatically? Do they have a choice? Do they represent Waterford in the Munster club?


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    #7417
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,027 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    cul beag wrote: »
    So we have Ballygunner v Ballysaggart county intermediate final. What are the official permutations regarding Ballygunner if they win it? Do they go up automatically? Do they have a choice? Do they represent Waterford in the Munster club?

    Finished 3-21-1-9 very impressive by Ballygunner B

    Ballysaggart will rep Waterford in Munster not matter the final result

    Not sure about who goes up to senior. Having 2 senior teams in Ballygunner would be a bit odd tbh


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    #7418
    Spatters
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    Deskjockey wrote: »
    So the Limerick senior clubs are strong but then Ballygunner beat the Limerick Champions na Piarsaigh last year in the Munster Club Championship??
    So did na Piarsaigh have a bad day against them, or did Ballygunner just have a bad day vs Ballyhale Shamrocks??

    Remember, Ballygunner beat na Piarsaigh of Limerick who had contrsted 2 County Titles, played in 2 All Ireland club final and played in 2 Munster club finals in the space of 24 months plus their top players had won an all ireland with limerick in that time frame also. By the time they got to Ballygunner they were stuck to the ground. I think if they come out of Limerick they’ll go hard at it again.

    Ballygunner on the other hand struggled to get over Ballyea and Midelton at home. They’ll win the club championship here but id be surprised if they aren’t turned over in Munster as they are on the road this year and in my opinion not as strong/experienced as last yr.

    Club hurling is at an all time low and imo the Co board through game’s development have been piss poor in getting other clubs up to a standard where they can compete with Ballygunner. There’s no one on the Ballygunner team (intermediate/senior) that are top class prospects for Intercounty. The only player who looks a different gravy and can be potentially the next Paul Flynn to come from Ballygunner is Patrick Fitzgerald.

    At the moment Ballygunner are blazing a trail (&fair play to them) but other clubs and the Co board need to get their act together cause they are only getting stronger im afraid:-(


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    #7419
    Spatters
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    Patrickswell wins Limerick- If Ballygunner get over DLS it’s wide open for them but it won’t be easy!


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    #7420
    Stacksofwacks
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    If there's 2 Ballygunner teams good enough to play senior then they should be promoted, obviously have them in different groups etc and try and avoid a fixture between the 2 but if they end up meeting a county final so be it


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    #7421
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,027 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Spatters wrote: »
    Patrickswell wins Limerick- If Ballygunner get over DLS it’s wide open for them but it won’t be easy!

    Ballygunner/DLS will have to beat the Clare champions before they might face Patrickswell

    Sixmilebridge under Davy or Cratloe


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    #7422
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Ballysaggart have home advanatge against our Kerry champions... does anyone know if the game will be in ballysaggart or elsewhere??


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    #7423
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,027 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    awaywithyou wrote: »
    Ballysaggart have home advanatge against our Kerry champions... does anyone know if the game will be in ballysaggart or elsewhere??

    Probably in Fraher Field


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    #7424
    JesusRef
    Registered Users Posts: 419 ✭✭JesusRef


    The best Waterford intermediate team should be allowed to go senior and represent the county at munster club, end of!


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    #7425
    Road-Hog
    Registered Users Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭Road-Hog


    Spatters wrote: »
    Remember, Ballygunner beat na Piarsaigh of Limerick who had contrsted 2 County Titles, played in 2 All Ireland club final and played in 2 Munster club finals in the space of 24 months plus their top players had won an all ireland with limerick in that time frame also. By the time they got to Ballygunner they were stuck to the ground. I think if they come out of Limerick they’ll go hard at it again.

    Ballygunner on the other hand struggled to get over Ballyea and Midelton at home. They’ll win the club championship here but id be surprised if they aren’t turned over in Munster as they are on the road this year and in my opinion not as strong/experienced as last yr.

    Club hurling is at an all time low and imo the Co board through game’s development have been piss poor in getting other clubs up to a standard where they can compete with Ballygunner. There’s no one on the Ballygunner team (intermediate/senior) that are top class prospects for Intercounty. The only player who looks a different gravy and can be potentially the next Paul Flynn to come from Ballygunner is Patrick Fitzgerald.

    At the moment Ballygunner are blazing a trail (&fair play to them) but other clubs and the Co board need to get their act together cause they are only getting stronger im afraid:-(

    How many Paul Flynn, ken Mcgrath etc types have limerick produced in the last ten years.....none I would think.....yet they are/were regarded as unbeatable at start of championship this year. Since 1993 (I think) in the club championship Ballygunner and mt sion have dominated De La Salle won 3 titles and a few other like Passage and Ballyduff upper won one.......yet this past 26 years Waterford have been the most competitive since the 1950’s/60’s.....


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    #7426
    PTH2009
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    Senior football semi final results
    Rathgormack 0-14- Stradbally 0-8
    Ballinacourty 0-16- The Nire 1-9


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    #7427
    conor05
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    cul beag wrote: »
    So we have Ballygunner v Ballysaggart county intermediate final. What are the official permutations regarding Ballygunner if they win it? Do they go up automatically? Do they have a choice? Do they represent Waterford in the Munster club?

    No Ballygunnar have a senior club so they can’t represent in Munster even if they win.

    The Munster q-final is Ballysaggart v Causeway (Kerry senior champions).

    I can’t say I know much about the standard of Kerry hurling.


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    #7428
    Mastermcgrath
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    awaywithyou wrote: »
    Ballysaggart have home advanatge against our Kerry champions... does anyone know if the game will be in ballysaggart or elsewhere??

    I would imagine it will be Lismore, the local town. Ballysaggarts pitch migt not be big enough


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    #7429
    thesultan
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    Road-Hog wrote: »
    How many Paul Flynn, ken Mcgrath etc types have limerick produced in the last ten years.....none I would think.....yet they are/were regarded as unbeatable at start of championship this year. Since 1993 (I think) in the club championship Ballygunner and mt sion have dominated De La Salle won 3 titles and a few other like Passage and Ballyduff upper won one.......yet this past 26 years Waterford have been the most competitive since the 1950’s/60’s.....
    We had two teams winning in the 2000s. Now we have one.


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    #7430
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,027 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    conor05 wrote: »
    No Ballygunnar have a senior club so they can’t represent in Munster even if they win.

    The Munster q-final is Ballysaggart v Causeway (Kerry senior champions).

    I can’t say I know much about the standard of Kerry hurling.

    Will the same apply to Abbeyside who are in the West Junior A final and If they go on to win the junior A title ??

    Ballysaggart with the Bennets could do well in Munster. Only a few years ago lost the AI junior final in a replay


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    #7431
    Giveitfong
    Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭Giveitfong


    I see that Kieran Bennett got Man of the Match in the Western Intermediate final and I think he was very good in the semi-final as well. He is an excellent hurler who did well in his senior appearances in 2017 and yet has hardly been seen since. Pádraig Fanning ignored him while sticking with players who, in my view, are clearly inferior. Hopefully he will get a fair crack of the whip from Liam Cahill and he will have further opportunities with Ballysaggart to further showcase his talents. He has been typecast as a defender but he is showing with Ballysaggart that he knows where the posts are.


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    #7432
    Cake Man
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    If Ballygunner can’t go up to senior nor can they represent Waterford in the Munster intermediate championship, does that not basically mean Ballysaggart will be playing senior next year and will represent Waterford in the club championship? So the county final is a bit of a bonus game for them where it doesn’t really matter the outcome?


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    #7433
    emergingstar
    Registered Users Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭emergingstar


    Cake Man wrote: »
    If Ballygunner can’t go up to senior nor can they represent Waterford in the Munster intermediate championship, does that not basically mean Ballysaggart will be playing senior next year and will represent Waterford in the club championship? So the county final is a bit of a bonus game for them where it doesn’t really matter the outcome?

    I heard yesterday Ballygunner will be allowed up with 2 seniotr teams and will be kept apart in group stages


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    #7434
    Mulbert
    Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭Mulbert


    emergingstar wrote: »
    I heard yesterday Ballygunner will be allowed up with 2 seniotr teams and will be kept apart in group stages

    Why would they be kept apart in the group stages. Already they're been treated differently than other teams, possibly gaining an advantage.


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    #7435
    TheScoringGoal
    Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭TheScoringGoal


    Giveitfong wrote: »
    I see that Kieran Bennett got Man of the Match in the Western Intermediate final and I think he was very good in the semi-final as well. He is an excellent hurler who did well in his senior appearances in 2017 and yet has hardly been seen since. Pádraig Fanning ignored him while sticking with players who, in my view, are clearly inferior. Hopefully he will get a fair crack of the whip from Liam Cahill and he will have further opportunities with Ballysaggart to further showcase his talents. He has been typecast as a defender but he is showing with Ballysaggart that he knows where the posts are.

    Was injured for most of the year.


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    #7436
    HelloHello1234
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭HelloHello1234


    emergingstar wrote: »
    I heard yesterday Ballygunner will be allowed up with 2 seniotr teams and will be kept apart in group stages


    They have the option to stay down intermidiate also. If they win it twice in a row they automatically have to go up.

    If they take the option to have 2 senior teams, they will have to name there panel for the year and they wont be able to take players from the b team to play on the a. similar to thurlas sarsfields this year


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    #7437
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Finished 3-21-1-9 very impressive by Ballygunner B

    Ballysaggart will rep Waterford in Munster not matter the final result

    Not sure about who goes up to senior. Having 2 senior teams in Ballygunner would be a bit odd tbh

    How the hell did Dunhill get to the final if they were that far off the pace?


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    #7438
    tommylad1212
    Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭tommylad1212


    hardybuck wrote: »
    How the hell did Dunhill get to the final if they were that far off the pace?

    They beat portlaw in the semi by the same margin, the inter championship is very poor in the east


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    #7439
    Jjjjjjjjbarry
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    Giveitfong wrote: »
    I see that Kieran Bennett got Man of the Match in the Western Intermediate final and I think he was very good in the semi-final as well. He is an excellent hurler who did well in his senior appearances in 2017 and yet has hardly been seen since. Pádraig Fanning ignored him while sticking with players who, in my view, are clearly inferior. Hopefully he will get a fair crack of the whip from Liam Cahill and he will have further opportunities with Ballysaggart to further showcase his talents. He has been typecast as a defender but he is showing with Ballysaggart that he knows where the posts are.

    What's his best position? I remember Derek blooding him a full back in early league appearances before using him at wing back when needed. Never really sure where he played for club.

    I hope Liam Cahill gets the best out of Shane Bennett. I think he would be great out around the middle of the field and not in full forward line. He can link up with his brother without being stuck in beside him.


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    #7440
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,027 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Any word on Brick coming back for next season ???

    Moran prob will give it another year at most


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    #7441
    JesusRef
    Registered Users Posts: 419 ✭✭JesusRef


    There needs to be an all county intermediate hurling championship pronto


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