Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

magicbastarder wrote: »

it's a criminal offence, not a civil offence, to leave the scene of an accident. common sense would suggest that this asshole won't be able to plead for leniency because he took two attempts to leave.

Thanks and true. Unfortunately, I have no faith in AGS to successfully investigate this. My rear cctv footage will be deemed useless as it does not show the Reg, and it all hinges on other cctv or the witness. The driver will lie his ass off as the first interview (which is voluntary) is not under caution.
The system is wrong.

Stark wrote: »

Pretty sure you don't need footage of the reg to get a conviction?

He has video of make/model/colour along with a third party photo of the same, with a reg. I think he should be ok.

...not that they'll do anything about it.

5uspect wrote: »

Saw a cyclist down on the footpath just past Ranleigh station this evening heading towards town. Not sure what happened, they looked unconscious and a passerby appeared to be calling emergency services. He was right up against the wall and I didn’t spot him at first. Saw the bike first and did a double take. Hope they were okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggcB5TRIL8Q

Hope they're ok too, but the guy on the phone doesn't look too concerned. When I was knocked off a few months ago and an ambulance was called, I wasn't too bad and tried to sit up but the guy on the other end of the phone said I should remain lying down until the ambulance arrived. Hopefully it's the same thing here.

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

Thanks and true. Unfortunately, I have no faith in AGS to successfully investigate this. My rear cctv footage will be deemed useless as it does not show the Reg, and it all hinges on other cctv or the witness. The driver will lie his ass off as the first interview (which is voluntary) is not under caution.
The system is wrong.

For every story you hear that someone reported something and it went nowhere, there is another where the Garda took it seriously and assisted in a prosecution. The other party can lie all they want but it's up to you to persist, find the right Garda and get the guy in front of a judge. It takes a very smart person to lie successfully through an investigation so unless you think he is that smart, it's worth pursuing. I had a guy prosecuted with zero evidence, zero witnesses - it was his word v mine. Also - chances are that your guy has priors which could help persuade the Garda to drive a prosecution.

steamsey wrote: »

For every story you hear that someone reported something and it went nowhere, there is another where the Garda took it seriously and assisted in a prosecution. The other party can lie all they want but it's up to you to persist, find the right Garda and get the guy in front of a judge. It takes a very smart person to lie successfully through an investigation so unless you think he is that smart, it's worth pursuing. I had a guy prosecuted with zero evidence, zero witnesses - it was his word v mine. Also - chances are that your guy has priors which could help persuade the Garda to drive a prosecution.

Yes and no. After quite a few traffic watch reports the ratio of decent to useless RPU gardai is probably around 1:3. The main issue though is the local Inspector gets to decide on prosecutions. If you had a station with 20 Gardai all excellent but an inspector thats a petrol head anti cyclist you'll never get single thing done.

This one failed to get a prosecution, in my opinion it was unnecessarily close and fast and punishment for not being in the cycle lane. but not close enough I guess.

I was surprised the amount of cyclist vitriol for being out of the cycle lane. I've posted close passes on this junction before and always been told to get more central. I know it's not the same people but damned if you do and damned if you don't



https://twitter.com/alan____d/status/1179333746207666176?s=19

Managed to come out the worst from an altercation with a driver on pembroke road this morning. Frustrating morning for drivers, it was raining and traffic was backed up/slow.

There are a line of parked cars on that road every morning. I was outside the doorzone and perhaps a bit beyond that, because there is a temporary surface where they have been laying pipes or something.

Anyway very close pass from a driver as i went down the road, he was two feet or so in from the centre line as he passed me. Caught up to him at the next lights. His window was slightly open and I said to him (calmly) to leave more space and "you came very close to me mate". He responded that I was in the middle of the road. I responded a little less calmly (but without really raising my voice) that it didn't matter if I was in the middle of the road I was entitled to be in the middle of the road anyway and it didn't Fing excuse a close pass one way or the other.

His response was still calm - "now you're just being abusive" as I cycled off. My final response was not calm at all. I stopped turned around and shouted back "Less Fing abusive than coming within 6 inches with a two tonne vehicle."

Anyway I had been doing well keeping my cool in these situations. I would have been far more satisfied looking back on the encounter if I had remained calm throughout instead of getting annoyed at the end. And by doing so I let the driver see himself as being the one in the right in the situation.

Salary Negotiator wrote: »

if I get a response like "you were in the middle of the road" or similar after a motorist has put me in danger I usually just respond with "that's to stop people like you acting the cun_t"

It's not big and it's not clever, but I'm a firm believer in telling people when they are acting like c&nts.

If the reply with an apology or the like, I say "no worries, have a good day."

The big problem is that people don't like the fact that they were driving like cnuts being pointed out.

RobbieMD wrote: »

The offences outlined in your post are the offences under section 106 of the Road Traffic Act and perhaps dangerous driving/ careless driving. In your instance, Gardai don’t have a power to arrest and interview the driver. If they want the drivers version, it must be done in a voluntary manner.

Your rear cam doesn’t need to show the registration to be used in evidence. It most likely will still show the circumstances of the incident. People have been convicted of these offences before CCTV became as prevalent as it is now.

Were the Gardai at the accident? Have they spoken to the driver?

Thanks for that. The Garda were not called. I was able to get home and call them. They did not want the details. Said to get myself seen and come in another time. I have since gone in and given an account of the incident, the car details plus the witness contact. I was not asked to make a statement. They will look for some other cctv at the junction (top of Glenamuck Road/Enniskerry Road) . I don't think there is any.

I will see where this goes. I still think it rests on the witness making a statement. They may back out as its such a formal and time consuming thing to do.

Ah but putting your hand back on the bike indicates that you changed your mind about turning. Not like you need that hand to steer or brake :pac:

ofthelord wrote: »

Maybe not a near miss - I was coming out of Glenealy, Wicklow this afternoon and was going to turn up Barnbawn Rd just before the railway bridge. I had my arm out indicating that I was going to take the right turn. It's a bit of a bendy road coming up to the turn, I gave plenty of notice that I was going to take the turn, would have been going about 30-35kmph so not going slowly. The driver waited until I stopped indicating and was starting my turn before starting their overtake. They overtook coming up to a blind corner at the bridge where they had no idea if there was a car coming from the other side. Of course a car came from the opposite direction and beeped at the overtaking car. I drive as much as a cycle and it just annoys me when these kind of things happen - no need for it - just wait the 5 seconds for me to take the turn and i'll be out of your way - absolutely no need to overtake in this situation.

That's a 90 deg left hander into a 90 deg right hander - completely blind corner on a permanently very busy road. I wouldn't dream of overtaking anyone there under any circumstances. That's unbelievable

I'm absolutely fed up of cnuts on motorbikes nearly knocking me down in the bike lanes as they undertake cars.

Harolds Cross on the way out of town is a nightmare for it.

Pinch Flat wrote: »

I've actually said that to motorcyclists "Don't mind you using the bus lane, just don't be a cnut". Way too many of them using the bus lanes illegally and irresponsibly.

That's just it. At least take it easy in there and don't barge past.

I've been tailgated a few times in the cycle lane out Wainsfort Road too by bellends on mopeds when traffic is backed up and they won't over take.

Just had some fckin dope in a vw scirocco nearly hit me while he was speeding up the bus / bike lane outside the old virgin megastore on the south quays. I was indicating right to overtake a cyclist in front of me.

Caught up with him at the lights at the hapenny bridge. He was in no mood for being confronted by a 6’2” cyclist that he’d almost hit. Just stared ahead blankly. Going to look back at the video but he came very close to hitting me-another report for Pearse st.