Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

AndrewJRenko

tuxy wrote: »

Would that work? I just put in random info when I tax my car online.

I assumed they would have cross checked it, but maybe not. I guess it could be out of date also, if you changed insurer during the tax year.

They were supposed to be getting access to the insurance databases for ANPR in the cars.

If you know the address, then you could pay a visit and check the disc.

ED E

Limerick RPU were doing lookups with the mobility project so presumably they have the db in a somewhat usable state now.

average_runner

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

By looking at the disc on the windscreen

Ok, so u gave them video evidence. Was just wondering

Kaisr Sose

tuxy wrote: »

Would that work? I just put in random info when I tax my car online.

It makes no sense to enter incorrect information. I thought you had to provide it, though I knew there was no correlation/verification due to no linkage in systems . Maybe they need to look at tightening that loophole

CramCycle

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

It makes no sense to enter incorrect information. I thought you had to provide it, though I knew there was no correlation/verification due to no linkage in systems . Maybe they need to look at tightening that loophole

Its not verified, has to be correct the first time but I haven't even looked up the number since, just made it up.

average_runner

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Can't they look up the motor tax database?

Also there is restrictions on what Public Services have access to other databases. I don't think we have that good of a system here.

I know my insurance details aren't in the tax database as my tax is up before my insurance and I would move insurance most years

Chiparus

average_runner wrote: »

Also there is restrictions on what Public Services have access to other databases. I don't think we have that good of a system here.

I know my insurance details aren't in the tax database as my tax is up before my insurance and I would move insurance most years

That was a problem before and guards were seizing cars that were insured but the 'computer said no'

CramCycle

Chiparus wrote: »

That was a problem before and guards were seizing cars that were insured but the 'computer said no'

Which is why I have my insurance documentation in your car. I thought you were meant to be but am unsure.

buffalo

CramCycle wrote: »

Which is why I have my insurance documentation in your car. I thought you were meant to be but am unsure.

I'm not sure if that's a typo, or you've insured Chiparus' car for him/her.

Chiparus

Chiparus wrote: »

That was a problem before and guards were seizing cars that were insured but the 'computer said no'

https://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0503/698472-gardai-database/

homer911

The Executive Express bus was parked outside the petrol station on the N11 inbound again this morning, email of complaint gone in. Its an accident waiting to happen as the bus forces cyclists off the cycle path, and vehicles exiting the petrol station have their view of the traffic obscured

GlennaMaddy

Same situation at a petrol station in north county Dublin, except there are no parking signs erected by the council outside. I've rang the offending company, spoken to the manager and the practice stopped for a few months.

I've also spoken to the manager on duty in the petrol station, who say it's not their problem, but each time I remind them they can refuse to serve the driver, and also remind them that a petrol station licence comes up for renewal and the public have a right to object.

5uspect

Came across the aftermath of cyclist who was doored this morning along Dolphin Road along by the Grand Canal. He was down on the ground and the motorists in the car were attending to him. Looks like a young lad in the back swung out the back door into the cycle lane.

He was bleeding a bit on his forehead and they seemed to have called an ambulance. I didn’t hang around once I knew the people in the car were genuine. Spotted the ambulance a few minutes later.

AndrewJRenko

homer911 wrote: »

The Executive Express bus was parked outside the petrol station on the N11 inbound again this morning, email of complaint gone in. Its an accident waiting to happen as the bus forces cyclists off the cycle path, and vehicles exiting the petrol station have their view of the traffic obscured

One of their buses jammed up Leeson St Bridge while coming out of town this evening.

5uspect

5uspect wrote: »

Came across the aftermath of cyclist who was doored this morning along Dolphin Road along by the Grand Canal. He was down on the ground and the motorists in the car were attending to him. Looks like a young lad in the back swung out the back door into the cycle lane.

He was bleeding a bit on his forehead and they seemed to have called an ambulance. I didn’t hang around once I knew the people in the car were genuine. Spotted the ambulance a few minutes later.

F'away off with your coats is what I'd be saying there while waiting on the "bus". Ask for insurance details and see how quick they'd be to lay on the coats. Maybe I'm being harsh on them.

average_runner

5uspect wrote: »

Came across the aftermath of cyclist who was doored this morning along Dolphin Road along by the Grand Canal. He was down on the ground and the motorists in the car were attending to him. Looks like a young lad in the back swung out the back door into the cycle lane.

He was bleeding a bit on his forehead and they seemed to have called an ambulance. I didn’t hang around once I knew the people in the car were genuine. Spotted the ambulance a few minutes later.

If they called an ambulance, there must be some serious injuries, otherwise its people wasting our money yet again

magicbastarder

whose call is it as to whether he suffered serious injuries? plenty of people are involved in accidents where the adrenaline masks how seriously injured they are.

stoneill

average_runner wrote: »

If they called an ambulance, there must be some serious injuries, otherwise its people wasting our money yet again

Who decides on what a serious injury is?
Bleeding from the head is serious even if there not much blood. Concussion, compression, fractured skull, swelling brain, various levels of consciousness, who knows?

magicbastarder

was it on the forum here i read about someone trying to explain to an ambulance crew that no, in fact, i'm alright; when he keeled over, having suffered a punctured lung?

average_runner

stoneill wrote: »

Who decides on what a serious injury is?
Bleeding from the head is serious even if there not much blood. Concussion, compression, fractured skull, swelling brain, various levels of consciousness, who knows?

If the head hits off the ground, then that's serious.

But in this country we have a habit of wasting resources, ie calling an ambulance and blocking up A&E when the we could of drove the person to their local doctor first.

There needs to be common sense in it all as we don't have a bucket load of ambulances around.

AndrewJRenko

average_runner wrote: »

stoneill wrote: »

Who decides on what a serious injury is?
Bleeding from the head is serious even if there not much blood. Concussion, compression, fractured skull, swelling brain, various levels of consciousness, who knows?

If the head hits off the ground, then that's serious.

But in this country we have a habit of wasting resources, ie calling an ambulance and blocking up A&E when the we could of drove the person to their local doctor first.

There needs to be common sense in it all as we don't have a bucket load of ambulances around.

A GP isn't a great choice after a road crash - usually no x-rays, not great for stitching.

average_runner

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

A GP isn't a great choice after a road crash - usually no x-rays, not great for stitching.

A GP is perfect for stitching. My own GP down the country would do this. Often did it for me.

No need to go to A&E for stitches, if your GP is uncertain they will send you on.

Dublin so backwards when it comes to A&E

CramCycle

average_runner wrote: »

If they called an ambulance, there must be some serious injuries, otherwise its people wasting our money yet again

Who decides whether he is safe enough to be moved?

average_runner

CramCycle wrote: »

Who decides whether he is safe enough to be moved?

Common sense comes into it, depends on the accident.

Do you really want to waste a resource where it could save some one else life?

magicbastarder

almost certainly mentioned it here before, but i once rang an ambulance after coming on the scene of a car having left the motorway and careered up the embankment before sliding back down and hitting the inside of the armco.
several people - including my own mother - told me i shouldn't have, as i would be billed for the ambulance callout. which is utter nonsense, but that belief does seem to be out there.

CramCycle

average_runner wrote: »

Common sense comes into it, depends on the accident.

Do you really want to waste a resource where it could save some one else life?

And that's why EMTs prioritise call outs and give advice over the phone. Unless someone there is a first responder or the person refuses, then they done the right thing.

It really depends on the situation. Not sure why you think no ambulance was needed here.

Stark

Nearly got taken out of it this morning by someone turning left by Memorial park on the quays. Luckily the guy saw me at the last second or I would have been straight into the side of him.

blackwhite

average_runner wrote: »

If the head hits off the ground, then that's serious.

But in this country we have a habit of wasting resources, ie calling an ambulance and blocking up A&E when the we could of drove the person to their local doctor first.

There needs to be common sense in it all as we don't have a bucket load of ambulances around.

The typical GP practice will not have the correct equipment for trauma assessments. Once it's anything involving trauma to head or torso then A&E is the appropriate place to go.

GP surgeries are the perfect place for primary assessments of illnesses - including acute illnesses which are the bigger problem of people bypassing GPs and going straight to A&E. They are not the place for assessment of the vast majority of trauma incidents, given they typically don't have x-ray or other scan equipment.

Kaisr Sose

Stark wrote: »

Nearly got taken out of it this morning by someone turning left by Memorial park on the quays. Luckily the guy saw me at the last second or I would have been straight into the side of him.

You were lucky. Still pathetic and unacceptable level of driver awareness. What happened to checking before manoeuvring and then only doing so if its clear and safe to turn? A behaviour that is becoming optional for some motorists, and dare I say, some cyclists and an increasing number of pedestrians.

average_runner

CramCycle wrote: »

And that's why EMTs prioritise call outs and give advice over the phone. Unless someone there is a first responder or the person refuses, then they done the right thing.

It really depends on the situation. Not sure why you think no ambulance was needed here.

I didnt say no ambulance was needed here, I just said it must of been bad enough that an ambulance was called out