Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

RichardBzero · 29-09-2019 11:53PM

Iâ€™ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only â‚¬100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didnâ€™t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word thatâ€™s filtered back tonight is saying heâ€™ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

debok · 30-09-2019 12:19AM

RichardBzero wrote: »

Iâ€™ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only â‚¬100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didnâ€™t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word thatâ€™s filtered back tonight is saying heâ€™ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

Why was he put into toilets?

RichardBzero · 30-09-2019 12:24AM

debok wrote: »

Why was he put into toilets?

Because there was no ambulance or order of Malta at hand. So was basically in limbo after being carried off and then were advised by Walsh park officials to bring him there. It was literally a circus. An ambulance was called but had to come from Kilkenny to get him.

Road-Hog · 30-09-2019 06:46AM

RichardBzero wrote: »

Because there was no ambulance or order of Malta at hand. So was basically in limbo after being carried off and then were advised by Walsh park officials to bring him there. It was literally a circus. An ambulance was called but had to come from Kilkenny to get him.

You can hardly blame the gaa for the ambulance service...?

emergingstar · 30-09-2019 07:48AM

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Pretty sure no one gets promoted. Runner up competes in Munster club alright

If they dont go up wont they just piss the inter every year

Mastermcgrath · 30-09-2019 08:03AM

emergingstar wrote: »

If they dont go up wont they just piss the inter every year

Unlikely, They haven’t pissed it before and haven’t won anything yet. Realistically what you going to have if they went up, a senior game Ballygunner A vs Ballygunner B?

As it turns out FMW and Ballyduff couldn’t be separated in the relegation final yesterday so it might all work out, no one up and no one down this year

blueflame · 30-09-2019 08:21AM

RichardBzero wrote: »

I’ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only €100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didn’t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word that’s filtered back tonight is saying he’ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

Have to agree 100% with this sentiment - totally unacceptable that there was not an ambulance or first-aid of any description on duty in Walsh Park, probably none in Fraher Field either. These were county Semi Finals where there was expected to be large attendances and it should just be a matter of protocol to have the Order of Malta in attendance, irrelevant of the cost, which I understand is only a couple of hundred euro at most. €15 a head in and we cannot afford to spend €400!!!

The organisational skillset of our county board reached a new low in my eyes yesterday, they hadn't even a blanket to cover the lad, or stewards to stop the kids crowing around him - don't be surprised if photos and videos start appearing on facebook. As for the assured actions of our county secretary during all this, talk about a rabbit caught in the headlights, player welfare my a...e, I have seen better preparations at children's blitzs.

emergingstar · 30-09-2019 08:21AM

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Unlikely, They haven’t pissed it before and haven’t won anything yet. Realistically what you going to have if they went up, a senior game Ballygunner A vs Ballygunner B?

As it turns out FMW and Ballyduff couldn’t be separated in the relegation final yesterday so it might all work out, no one up and no one down this year

How do other counties handle a sitaution like this?

upthedeise16 · 30-09-2019 08:37AM

emergingstar wrote: »

How do other counties handle a sitaution like this?

As Tipperary have an A and B senior championship with 16 teams in each, Thurles Sars 2nd team that won the intermediate went into the B championship but both Thurles Sarsfield teams complete in the mid senior hurling championship and could have played each other. The 2nd team would have to win the B championship to compete for the Dan Breen.

Happyilylost · 30-09-2019 08:47AM

emergingstar wrote: »

How do other counties handle a sitaution like this?

In Galway you can't have two teams from the same club competing in the same grade. The team being promoted is replaced with the next eligible team. I think this would be the case across most counties.

cul beag · 30-09-2019 09:21AM

RichardBzero wrote: »

Iâ€™ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only â‚¬100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didnâ€™t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word thatâ€™s filtered back tonight is saying heâ€™ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

Christ that’s absolutely disgraceful. I’m lost for words but not surprised by those clowns running the show. There was no services available in the Fraher Field either yesterday only the first aid officials from the 4 competing clubs. To be honest they shouldn’t be left away with this as health and safety is and should be a basic requirement for all players. As a matter of interest are there defibrillators in both grounds?

hardybuck · 30-09-2019 10:09AM

Road-Hog wrote: »

You can hardly blame the gaa for the ambulance service...?

If hosting an event of that scale you should have basic services in place or on standby. That includes Gardai and emergency services. Not only the players, but if something happened to an attendee.

Stopitwillya · 30-09-2019 10:11AM

RichardBzero wrote: »

Iâ€™ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only â‚¬100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didnâ€™t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word thatâ€™s filtered back tonight is saying heâ€™ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

Best wishes to the young lad.
A poor reflection on our county board that this was allowed happen during a senior hurling county semi final.

Jerry Atrick · 30-09-2019 02:14PM

Time for some serious soul searching to take place within the administration of the county. That story on the Mt Sion player is horrendous. Absolute shambles of a set up...until our own house is in order we are going absolutely nowhere. Christy Ring himself could come back and manage the team but if this is the laissez faire attitude in the county then we are screwed.

30-09-2019 04:12PM

RichardBzero wrote: »

Iâ€™ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only â‚¬100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didnâ€™t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word thatâ€™s filtered back tonight is saying heâ€™ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

Did the same not happen in the Mount Sion V Roanmore group game in Walsh Park. I think it was Even Curran that received a nasty injury, and not even a stretcher in place, he had to be carried off the pitch and then left wait for an ambulance.

How the order of malta/civil defence or Irish Red Cross are not present at these games is beyond me.

Voluntary organisations with the require skills. Thankfully often then not they are not needed which is great.

€15 yesterday, good crowd at it and not any first aid to been seen other than those involved with both sides.

I'm sure providing any service will come with a cost but surely player welfare must be catered for.

thesaturdayman · 30-09-2019 04:59PM

feel sorry for Peter Penkert. He was badly let then down by those meant to protect his interests.

I hope mount sion crucify the county secretary.

Penny wise pound foolish and all that....

An incident like this has been a long long time coming, thankfully it was not something as serious as a neck / heart issue. The lad will live thanks be to god and thats not being flippant.

Order of Malta, Barrick Street band all these basic basic things have been neglected over the years. Infact i remember dermot keyes coming down singing the anthem one year.

Maybe now people are starting to realise how hopelessly out of depth some people are in the county exec?

Christy Browne · 30-09-2019 05:04PM

914 wrote: »

Did the same not happen in the Mount Sion V Roanmore group game in Walsh Park. I think it was Even Curran that received a nasty injury, and not even a stretcher in place, he had to be carried off the pitch and then left wait for an ambulance.

How the order of malta/civil defence or Irish Red Cross are not present at these games is beyond me.

Voluntary organisations with the require skills. Thankfully often then not they are not needed which is great.

€15 yesterday, good crowd at it and not any first aid to been seen other than those involved with both sides.

I'm sure providing any service will come with a cost but surely player welfare must be catered for.

You’re completely correct, the exact same thing happened in the Mount Sion/Roanmore game earlier this season. Except it was Edward Cullen and not Evan Curran who received the injury.

30-09-2019 05:08PM

Christy Browne wrote: »

You’re completely correct, the exact same thing happened in the Mount Sion/Roanmore game earlier this season. Except it was Edward Cullen and not Evan Curran who received the injury.

That was is, Edward Cullen, thanks for the correction.

PTH2009 · 30-09-2019 05:22PM

CB meeting tonight with the proposal of the new senior hurling management team of Liam Cahill, Michael Beavans and Stephen Molumphy on a 2 year term (with option of a 3rd year)

emergingstar · 30-09-2019 05:44PM

Cahill was in Dungarvan the weekend keeping watch

IanVW · 30-09-2019 06:01PM

As expected, Liam Cahill to be proposed as #Waterford's next senior hurling manager at board meeting this evening. Michael Bevans to be named as coach with possibility of Stephen Molumphy coming on board as a selector. Two-year term with option for a third. #GAA
From John Fogarty

sasta le · 30-09-2019 06:30PM

Surely someone with first aid training at the match?
And just tell the crowd to fcuk off away

mountgomery burns · 30-09-2019 06:36PM

Should there be an ambulance present at every game at all levels then do ye reckon? How many ambulances/paramedics would be available at any one time in Waterford?

Seems like a big ask to me. That there are no trained personnel on hand to assist however and worst of all that he would be brought to a toilet instead of a medical room (is there nothing of the sort in Walsh Park?) is scandalous. Hard to assess the damage I would say in the immediate aftermath so hopefully the injury is not as bad as feared and he gets back playing again.

Was a privilege to see Austin Gleesons first half performance yesterday, he was unbelievable.

PTH2009 · 30-09-2019 07:14PM

Surely we should be getting our 'week off' in the middle of the Munster Championship for next summer and not start a week later or week earlier than the rest of the teams

PTH2009 · 30-09-2019 07:26PM

Surely we should be getting our 'week off' in the middle of the Munster Championship for next summer and not start a week later or week earlier than the rest of the teams

liogairmhordain · 30-09-2019 07:45PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Surely we should be getting our 'week off' in the middle of the Munster Championship for next summer and not start a week later or week earlier than the rest of the teams

I think I read when this system was being introduced that the Munster Council's intention is to run the same set of fixtures every year, only with the first round fixtures being moved to the fifth round the following year (and obviously with home advantage reversed).
This means our schedule for 2020 should be:
Round 1 - Tipp (h)
Round 2 - Limerick (a)
Round 3 - Cork (h)
Round 4 - bye
Round 5 - Clare (a)
There will be two-week gap between Rounds 2 and 3 if this year is anything to go by. A quirk of this system (if they stick with it) is that it means we'll start with a home game in Round 1 every year from 2019 to 2022.

HelloHello1234 · 30-09-2019 08:04PM

Be interesting to see who will referee the final. Thought both referees were good yesterday but will any of them get the final if they got the semi final?

mountgomery burns · 30-09-2019 08:20PM

HelloHello1234 wrote: »

Be interesting to see who will referee the final. Thought both referees were good yesterday but will any of them get the final if they got the semi final?

Not sure about this. What did Dungarvan get the penalty for?

IanVW · 30-09-2019 08:22PM

https://twitter.com/WaterfordGAA/status/1178750570078842882?s=19
Waterford GAA are happy to announce Liam Cahill as our inter-county Senior Hurling Manager with Michael Bevans as his coach for the 2020/2021 season!

Remaining management team to follow!

PTH2009 · 30-09-2019 08:27PM

IanVW wrote: »

https://twitter.com/WaterfordGAA/status/1178750570078842882?s=19
Waterford GAA are happy to announce Liam Cahill as our inter-county Senior Hurling Manager with Michael Bevans as his coach for the 2020/2021 season!

Remaining management team to follow!

All the best to him and his team

He has a tough job but hopefully he gets us competitive again

What's the realistic expectations ??? A Munster title or even final appearance. All Ireland prob too far for us in 2020

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