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Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

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New thread ladsðŸ˜ŠðŸ˜Š Any update on injuries for this weekends game?

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mountgomery burns

Should there be an ambulance present at every game at all levels then do ye reckon? How many ambulances/paramedics would be available at any one time in Waterford?

Seems like a big ask to me. That there are no trained personnel on hand to assist however and worst of all that he would be brought to a toilet instead of a medical room (is there nothing of the sort in Walsh Park?) is scandalous. Hard to assess the damage I would say in the immediate aftermath so hopefully the injury is not as bad as feared and he gets back playing again.

Was a privilege to see Austin Gleesons first half performance yesterday, he was unbelievable.

sasta le

Surely someone with first aid training at the match?
And just tell the crowd to fcuk off away

IanVW

As expected, Liam Cahill to be proposed as #Waterford's next senior hurling manager at board meeting this evening. Michael Bevans to be named as coach with possibility of Stephen Molumphy coming on board as a selector. Two-year term with option for a third. #GAA
From John Fogarty

emergingstar

Cahill was in Dungarvan the weekend keeping watch

PTH2009

CB meeting tonight with the proposal of the new senior hurling management team of Liam Cahill, Michael Beavans and Stephen Molumphy on a 2 year term (with option of a 3rd year)

914

Christy Browne wrote: »

You’re completely correct, the exact same thing happened in the Mount Sion/Roanmore game earlier this season. Except it was Edward Cullen and not Evan Curran who received the injury.

That was is, Edward Cullen, thanks for the correction.

Christy Browne

914 wrote: »

Did the same not happen in the Mount Sion V Roanmore group game in Walsh Park. I think it was Even Curran that received a nasty injury, and not even a stretcher in place, he had to be carried off the pitch and then left wait for an ambulance.

How the order of malta/civil defence or Irish Red Cross are not present at these games is beyond me.

Voluntary organisations with the require skills. Thankfully often then not they are not needed which is great.

€15 yesterday, good crowd at it and not any first aid to been seen other than those involved with both sides.

I'm sure providing any service will come with a cost but surely player welfare must be catered for.

You’re completely correct, the exact same thing happened in the Mount Sion/Roanmore game earlier this season. Except it was Edward Cullen and not Evan Curran who received the injury.

thesaturdayman

feel sorry for Peter Penkert. He was badly let then down by those meant to protect his interests.

I hope mount sion crucify the county secretary.

Penny wise pound foolish and all that....

An incident like this has been a long long time coming, thankfully it was not something as serious as a neck / heart issue. The lad will live thanks be to god and thats not being flippant.

Order of Malta, Barrick Street band all these basic basic things have been neglected over the years. Infact i remember dermot keyes coming down singing the anthem one year.

Maybe now people are starting to realise how hopelessly out of depth some people are in the county exec?

914

RichardBzero wrote: »

Iâ€™ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only â‚¬100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didnâ€™t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word thatâ€™s filtered back tonight is saying heâ€™ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

Did the same not happen in the Mount Sion V Roanmore group game in Walsh Park. I think it was Even Curran that received a nasty injury, and not even a stretcher in place, he had to be carried off the pitch and then left wait for an ambulance.

How the order of malta/civil defence or Irish Red Cross are not present at these games is beyond me.

Voluntary organisations with the require skills. Thankfully often then not they are not needed which is great.

€15 yesterday, good crowd at it and not any first aid to been seen other than those involved with both sides.

I'm sure providing any service will come with a cost but surely player welfare must be catered for.

Jerry Atrick

Time for some serious soul searching to take place within the administration of the county. That story on the Mt Sion player is horrendous. Absolute shambles of a set up...until our own house is in order we are going absolutely nowhere. Christy Ring himself could come back and manage the team but if this is the laissez faire attitude in the county then we are screwed.

Stopitwillya

RichardBzero wrote: »

Iâ€™ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only â‚¬100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didnâ€™t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word thatâ€™s filtered back tonight is saying heâ€™ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

Best wishes to the young lad.
A poor reflection on our county board that this was allowed happen during a senior hurling county semi final.

hardybuck

Road-Hog wrote: »

You can hardly blame the gaa for the ambulance service...?

If hosting an event of that scale you should have basic services in place or on standby. That includes Gardai and emergency services. Not only the players, but if something happened to an attendee.

cul beag

RichardBzero wrote: »

Iâ€™ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only â‚¬100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didnâ€™t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word thatâ€™s filtered back tonight is saying heâ€™ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

Christ that’s absolutely disgraceful. I’m lost for words but not surprised by those clowns running the show. There was no services available in the Fraher Field either yesterday only the first aid officials from the 4 competing clubs. To be honest they shouldn’t be left away with this as health and safety is and should be a basic requirement for all players. As a matter of interest are there defibrillators in both grounds?

Happyilylost

emergingstar wrote: »

How do other counties handle a sitaution like this?

In Galway you can't have two teams from the same club competing in the same grade. The team being promoted is replaced with the next eligible team. I think this would be the case across most counties.

upthedeise16

emergingstar wrote: »

How do other counties handle a sitaution like this?

As Tipperary have an A and B senior championship with 16 teams in each, Thurles Sars 2nd team that won the intermediate went into the B championship but both Thurles Sarsfield teams complete in the mid senior hurling championship and could have played each other. The 2nd team would have to win the B championship to compete for the Dan Breen.

emergingstar

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Unlikely, They haven’t pissed it before and haven’t won anything yet. Realistically what you going to have if they went up, a senior game Ballygunner A vs Ballygunner B?

As it turns out FMW and Ballyduff couldn’t be separated in the relegation final yesterday so it might all work out, no one up and no one down this year

How do other counties handle a sitaution like this?

blueflame

RichardBzero wrote: »

I’ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only €100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didn’t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word that’s filtered back tonight is saying he’ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

Have to agree 100% with this sentiment - totally unacceptable that there was not an ambulance or first-aid of any description on duty in Walsh Park, probably none in Fraher Field either. These were county Semi Finals where there was expected to be large attendances and it should just be a matter of protocol to have the Order of Malta in attendance, irrelevant of the cost, which I understand is only a couple of hundred euro at most. €15 a head in and we cannot afford to spend €400!!!

The organisational skillset of our county board reached a new low in my eyes yesterday, they hadn't even a blanket to cover the lad, or stewards to stop the kids crowing around him - don't be surprised if photos and videos start appearing on facebook. As for the assured actions of our county secretary during all this, talk about a rabbit caught in the headlights, player welfare my a...e, I have seen better preparations at children's blitzs.

Mastermcgrath

emergingstar wrote: »

If they dont go up wont they just piss the inter every year

Unlikely, They haven’t pissed it before and haven’t won anything yet. Realistically what you going to have if they went up, a senior game Ballygunner A vs Ballygunner B?

As it turns out FMW and Ballyduff couldn’t be separated in the relegation final yesterday so it might all work out, no one up and no one down this year

emergingstar

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Pretty sure no one gets promoted. Runner up competes in Munster club alright

If they dont go up wont they just piss the inter every year

Road-Hog

RichardBzero wrote: »

Because there was no ambulance or order of Malta at hand. So was basically in limbo after being carried off and then were advised by Walsh park officials to bring him there. It was literally a circus. An ambulance was called but had to come from Kilkenny to get him.

You can hardly blame the gaa for the ambulance service...?

RichardBzero

debok wrote: »

Why was he put into toilets?

Because there was no ambulance or order of Malta at hand. So was basically in limbo after being carried off and then were advised by Walsh park officials to bring him there. It was literally a circus. An ambulance was called but had to come from Kilkenny to get him.

debok

RichardBzero wrote: »

Iâ€™ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only â‚¬100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didnâ€™t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word thatâ€™s filtered back tonight is saying heâ€™ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

Why was he put into toilets?

RichardBzero

Iâ€™ve seen a lot of things said about the county board here over the last while and I never comment much but what transpired today in Walsh park was despicable. A very severe injury to peter Penkert of mount sion with what could be a career threatening injury descended into a farce. After snapping an arm, he was eventually stretchered off by members of his own team. There was no ambulance on hand or order of Malta which I heard after are only â‚¬100 to secure ( I may be wrong on that)
Anyway, after getting stretchered from the field they were advised to put him down on the floor of the toilets where approximately 20 children stood over him to peer obviously out of curiosity. An ambulance was called which had to come from Kilkenny to assist so he was left lying on a stretcher in the toilets which didnâ€™t have proper lights working for over 40 minutes. Word thatâ€™s filtered back tonight is saying heâ€™ll be lucky to play again suck is the extent of the damage. How can we ever be seen as forward thinking county when our basic services at county semi final games are in the Stone Age. That amongst many other things.

Giveitfong

Ballygunner 2-22 Dungarvan 1-13
Ballygunner had no trouble overcoming a very weak Dungarvan challenge in the county semi-final in Fraher Field this afternoon. Whereas Dungarvan displayed good organisation and application in their quarter final win over Abbeyside, today they were a shambles. Their first touch was poor, their concentration non-existent, their decision-making terrible and execution even worse. We have seen this kind of non-performance by Dungarvan before, but for what is mainly an experienced team, this was really disappointing.
By contrast, Ballygunner’s self-confidence is sky-high, while they are also very skillful and well-organised. They passed the ball around to great effect, adhering to the modern hurling precept of never hitting the ball blind unless there is no alternative. They therefore concentrated on keeping possession until a player was put in the clear to pick his target. It helped their cause that Dungarvan were extraordinarily loose, so there were always free players all over the place to pick out for a pass.
Playing against the stiff wind, Dungarvan scored a couple of early points and then failed to score for another 25 minutes until a late flurry saw them adding four points for a half-time tally of six. By then Ballygunner had 1-14 on the board, the goal coming from Peter Hogan in the 16th minute following some poor Dungarvan defending. Dungarvan did get a penalty just before half-time but Patrick Curran’s poor shot was easily saved by Stephen O’Keeffe.
It quickly became apparent after the change of ends that Dungarvan were incapable of making a fight of it, and the second half became a bore as Ballygunner played the ball around as they liked. Michael Mahony scored their second goal in the 42nd minute after a good passing movement. Patrick Curran got Dungarvan’s goal with the game almost over after a shot rebounded off the post.
It is hard to assess the real value of individual performances in a game like this, but Ian Kenny and Eddie Hayden mopped up at the back for Ballygunner while I was also impressed by Billy O’Keeffe at midfield and Conor Sheahan, who wore the number five but was all over the place and helped himself to two points. Dessie Hutchinson made quite an impression – especially in the first half – with his pace and ball control, striking four points. Peter Hogan put in a very good second half.
The only Dungarvan players who can hold their heads up were centre back Kieran Power, who performed impressively against overwhelming odds, and Cathal Curran who put in a hard-working shift, yielding three points.
I only got to see the second half of the relegation playoff between Fourmilewater and Ballyduff Upper which ended in a draw (FMW 1-12 Ballyduff 0-15). FMW went in at half-time two points up thanks to a goal from old stalwart Shane Walsh just before the break. The second half was reasonably entertaining but lacked intensity. The swirling wind contributed to a lot of wides for both sides. Eoghan Murray seemed to have won it for Ballyduff with a massive late long-range point but in the last attack of the game, FMW’s Richie Fenton shot a deserved equaliser.
A feature of the second half was an outstanding display by the ageless Stephen Molumphy. His ability to turn up wherever the ball was landing and win dirty ball remains as good as ever. Shane Walsh also showed up well for FMW.
I didn’t go to the game in Walsh Park as a protest against the idiocy of playing both semi-finals on the same afternoon at different venues. Since when have participating clubs been able to determine the venues for these games? And does the County Board give a toss for the convenience of the supporters on whom they depend for their survival?
Ballygunner: Stephen O’Keeffe; Ian Kenny; Eddie Hayden; Barry Coughlan; Conor Sheahan (0-2); Philip Mahony; Shane O’Sullivan; Michael Mahony (1-2); Billy O’Keeffe; Dessie Hutchinson (0-4); Pauric Mahony (0-10, 6 frees); Barry O’Sullivan (0-1); Peter Hogan (1-2); Tim O’Sullivan; Paddy Leavy.
Subs: Wayne Hutchinson for Barry Coughlan, Conor Power for Conor Sheahan and JJ Hutchinson (0-1) for Tim O’Sullivan (all 54th minute); Tadhg Foley for Billy O’Keeffe and Tom Gallagher for Philip Mahony (both 58th minute).
Dungarvan: Gavin Power; Darragh Lyons; John Curran; Seán Ryan; Jamie Nagle; Kieran Power; Kenny Moore; Michael Kiely (0-1); Jack Lacey; Cathal Curran (0-3); Joe Allen; Ryan Donnelly (0-5, 4 frees); Aaron Donnelly; Patrick Curran (1-1); Gavin Crotty (0-1).
Subs: Colm Curran (0-2) for Kenny Moore (injured, 13th minute); Cormac Curran for Aaron Donnelly (30th minute); Kealan Daly for Michael Kiely (49th minute); Joe Duggan for Cormac Curran (51st minute).

Mastermcgrath

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

They stay intermediate, runner up promoted to senior

Pretty sure no one gets promoted. Runner up competes in Munster club alright

Alf Tupper

Cahill, Molomphy, Hartley, Bevans are the new dream team.

Donal Og, Sean Og, Tom Kenny in charge of the Cork minors.

tommylad1212

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

They stay intermediate, runner up promoted to senior

No they dont

Christy Browne

Road-Hog wrote: »

Can you elaborate on the mt sion record that you refer to.....?ik

A county title in every decade since the club was founded.

Road-Hog

PTH2009 wrote: »

The mount Sion record is broken. DLS 1-20- Mount Sion 1-16

DLS vs Ballygunner final

Waterford champs play the Clare champs away in the Munster QF. Very tough draw the winners host the Limerick champs in the semi finals

Can you elaborate on the mt sion record that you refer to.....?ik

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Good game in Walsh Park. Mount Sion seemed well prepared and up for the battle. The early goal was a sucker punch but they kept going and were full value for a tied game at half time. Austin Gleeson was at his very best in the first half and his work rate, striking and team play was as good as I've seen it. De La Salle's half back line started to dominate the second half and Austin seemed to pull a ham string and could barely walk so went in full forward for the last 15-20 mins. Iggy made two wonder saves in the game too. All in all DLS half back line won the game for them with a tremendous second half.