RWC 2019 Ireland v Japan Match Thread: Group A - Sat 28th Sep 08:15 Shizuoka

MadYaker · 28-09-2019 10:34AM

Hoppy Jack wrote: »

It was pathetic. So embarrassing. I hope the lads hang their heads in shame. Disgusting performance. Gutless.

That’s way over the top. Are you going to provide any examples of gutless performance from specific players or do you just enjoy getting personal?

fullstop · 28-09-2019 10:34AM

dodderangler wrote: »

Get ****ed

Likewise :rolleyes:

Mokuba · 28-09-2019 10:34AM

westernfrenzy wrote: »

The amount of "I told you so" ****e in relation to Ireland being bad and delight at Ireland playing ****e is honestly horrible to read through

Probably relates to fans and media constantly guffawing over an Irish team that, every time without fail, proves itself to be not half as good as made out on the biggest stage.

The football team is constantly ridiculed while the rugby team can mostly do no wrong.

People were falling over themselves telling everyone:

How they had learned from the Six Nations
How the training camp meant they were tired for the England game
But the victories against Wales proved we were back despite them not being bothered and using them as an experiment.

We beat Scotland while South Africa showed one or two weaknesses against the best team in the world and people were already mapping out the route to the final. It's tiresome and the whole country - fans/media/players got yet another wake up call today.

ScrubsfanChris · 28-09-2019 10:35AM

Shane732 wrote: »

What’s the possibility for topping the group?

Japan to lose or draw at least once and Ireland to pick up two 5 pointers could leave both team on 16 points, Ireland would then need a bigger points difference.

Rockbeast2 · 28-09-2019 10:35AM

This is turning into a Liverpool V Man Utd thread.

The better team won.

We'll get over it.

Clegg · 28-09-2019 10:35AM

Happy4all wrote: »

Hindsight is great, but I had expected Ireland to rotate the starting line up more and have fresh legs from the turnaround of the Scotland game.

Maybe. But these guys are professional athletes that have come off the back of a month's long training camp. They should be in the best shape of their careers.

Forty Seven · 28-09-2019 10:35AM

Great for Scotland to get a good look at their system. Time to step up for the real danger in this group. Seems south Africa was not a fluke. Welcome to the new normal. Asian rugby.

ClanofLams · 28-09-2019 10:35AM

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Irish lads? Sure half our team are foreign imports and the management isn't Irish either. This team is as Irish as the Sultan of Brunei.

Who’s that half now? You should be worried about Arsenal in the premier league - having grown up in Ireland presumably you must have a deep connection to the club that spends millions every week paying a squad assorted from around the world. No interest in supporting Leyton Orient no?

Hobosan · 28-09-2019 10:35AM

smelly sock wrote: »

This. And more so when the supoosed Giant are so arrogant. Real sense of English mindset from this camp and some supporters.

Players and coaches have been nothing but complimentary of the Japan team.

You're the one downplaying the Japanese victory by insinuating that Ireland weren't trying.

Completely transparent what you're at.

leakyboots · 28-09-2019 10:36AM

NeonWolf wrote: »

High tackle by Rob Kearney in last pass before Japan try . He caught him on the jaw

Bit of a poor read from RK on that try. He played well apart from that I thought.

Bit of a curates egg of a performance... the likes of Earls, Kearney, Ringrose, Farrell, Murray, the three backrowers, Ryan.... all played pretty well. I don't think you'd criticise any of them too much. Yet we still lost, deservedly. Was POM taken off injured? Thought he was arguably our best player at the time.

This was lost in the coach's box for me. Our backplay is so stagnant. I see this with Munster regularly, when we can't outmuscle a team we don't have the backplay to go around them.

Japan matched us up front and then just went around us, their backplay is such a pleasure to watch.

FixdePitchmark · 28-09-2019 10:36AM

Rte panel crazy calm.

Bring back Hook.

DDC1990 · 28-09-2019 10:36AM

RTÃ‰ talking consistency from Gardner. I absolutely disagree.

Japan got warnings. We got penalised.

Portsalon · 28-09-2019 10:36AM

Hobosan wrote: »

Underdog?

From the posts I've read, Ireland are apparently the worst team in the world.

Can you link me to any post that makes that claim? No need to work too hard, just one will suffice.

Ulysses Gaze · 28-09-2019 10:36AM

We need to stop playing this bastardized version of Rugby League and start playing a quicker passing game. Watching us tonight was like watching Wigan, Hull or any other League team play.

Unfortunately that is not going to happen with Farrell as Head Coach who is steeped in that tradition.

Fan of Netflix · 28-09-2019 10:36AM

Our national team, yeah the one filled with foreign imports that is too ashamed to play our national anthem. Shame on people for not backing the team after humiliation in front of the world.

johnnyskeleton · 28-09-2019 10:36AM

Ireland played an unusual first 20 minutes which worked out well for them. Those little chips, offloads and playing up the tramlines rather than the standard centre field threw Japan initially.

After that, Japans better discipline, home advantage and the heat were all used to grind Ireland down in what can only be called an extremely exciting game of rugby.

In hindsight there are a few things that couldve been done differently. I felt Best was maybe tired after 80 mjns against Scotland, and no disrespect to Chris Farrell but hes no Bundi Aki and this was shown several times when James Ryan or Jacob Stockdale made some pace but were unsupported.

Cant say anything bad about the Irish pack overall, just that they were beaten by the more focussed Japanese pack. The old adage that the forwards determine who wins and the backs by how much is probably true for today. Japans tackling and rucking was excellent and Ireland made too many mistakes.

Good but dissappointing match. World cup is far frkm over for Ireland. Some commentators said it would be better for Ireland to face NZ rather than SA, and maybe they will get their wish! Lets hope Japan beat Scotland and there are no further upsets in Pool A

gmisk · 28-09-2019 10:37AM

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Irish lads? Sure half our team are foreign imports and the management isn't Irish either. This team is as Irish as the Sultan of Brunei.

As someone else has already pointed out

Ireland
They had one player today who qualified by residency.

How many Irish born players are in the Ireland soccer team?....

kona · 28-09-2019 10:37AM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Another awful take. Schmidt played his full strength side barring Sexton. Arrogant or what?

Yea barring sexton. A world player of the year.

Gonad · 28-09-2019 10:37AM

Mokuba wrote: »

Probably relates to fans and media constantly guffawing over an Irish team that, every time without fail, proves itself to be not half as good as made out on the biggest stage.

The football team is constantly ridiculed while the rugby team can mostly do no wrong.

People were falling over themselves telling everyone:
How they had learned from the Six Nations

How the training camp meant they were tired for the England game

But the victories against Wales proved we were back despite them not being bothered and using them as an experiment.

We beat Scotland while South Africa showed one or two weaknesses against the best team in the world and people were already mapping out the route to the final. It's tiresome and the whole country - fans/media/players got yet another wake up call today.

Ok Ewan Mackenna ...

adox · 28-09-2019 10:37AM

What surprised me most was how poor we were at the breakdown and set pieces.

We were getting outmuscled a lot of the time at the breakdown which shouldn’t be happening against this opposition.

Salary Negotiator · 28-09-2019 10:37AM

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Japan to lose or draw at least once and Ireland to pick up two 5 pointers could leave both team on 16 points, Ireland would then need a bigger points difference.

Isn’t it head to head rather than points difference?

Poor_old_gill · 28-09-2019 10:37AM

DDC1990 wrote: »

RTÉ talking consistency from Gardner. I absolutely disagree.

Japan got warnings. We got penalised.

Too cowardly to make a call - dont wanna be seen as controversial.
McBennett will have them axed

ScrubsfanChris · 28-09-2019 10:37AM

Blanco100 wrote: »

All blacks in a friendly game

Is there some sort of keyboard shortcut for this line? Everyone seems to have this completely original opinion :pac:

castletownman · 28-09-2019 10:37AM

I am hearing all about how good's defence is, and the strength of their running game in the post-match, but all you heard in the build-up was essentially how much Ireland should win by.

Its that myopic, arrogant attitude that breeds indifference to the game.

gmisk · 28-09-2019 10:38AM

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Our national team, yeah the one filled with foreign imports that is too ashamed to play our national anthem. Shame on people for not backing the team after humiliation in front of the world.

How many foreign imports?
You are talking out your hole!

Ireland...had one player today who qualified by residency....

fullstop · 28-09-2019 10:38AM

Hobosan wrote: »

Players and coaches have been nothing but complimentary of the Japan team.

You're the one downplaying the Japanese victory by insinuating that Ireland weren't trying.

Completely transparent what you're at.

At least it gives the soccer forum a break from it....

clsmooth · 28-09-2019 10:38AM

leakyboots wrote: »

Bit of a poor read from RK on that try. He played well apart from that I thought.

Bit of a curates egg of a performance... the likes of Earls, Kearney, Ringrose, Farrell, Murray, the three backrowers, Ryan.... all played pretty well. I don't think you'd criticise any of them too much. Yet we still lost, deservedly. Was POM taken off injured? Thought he was arguably our best player at the time.

This was lost in the coach's box for me. Our backplay is so stagnant. I see this with Munster regularly, when we can't outmuscle a team we don't have the backplay to go around them.

Japan matched us up front and then just went around us, their backplay is such a pleasure to watch.

I think the problem is that you need quick go forward ball to give you the platform to spin it wide. We seem to go to the back line when we’re struggling up front which is the wrong way around.

edgecutter · 28-09-2019 10:38AM

Let's looks at the positives...we can't lose a quarter final if we don't make a quarter final

sliabh 1956 · 28-09-2019 10:38AM

Interesting the panel on rte have no issues with the ref rather that Ireland kicked the ball away in the 2nd half

Fan of Netflix · 28-09-2019 10:38AM

ClanofLams wrote: »

Who’s that half now? You should be worried about Arsenal in the premier league - having grown up in Ireland presumably you must have a deep connection to the club that spends millions every week paying a squad assorted from around the world. No interest in supporting Leyton Orient no?

Keep singing Irelands Call and cheering on your South Africans. You are a real Micheal Collins.

RWC 2019 Ireland v Japan Match Thread: Group A - Sat 28th Sep 08:15 Shizuoka

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