Ryan Tubridy comments about Greta Thunberg

dvdman1 · 25-09-2019 8:28am #1

"she needs to be brought home and watch a movie. Just go for a walk with your da or your ma"

An out of touch overpaid twat or he has a point?

VinLieger · 25-09-2019 8:32am

His talking points are ripped straight from the alt-right by attacking her age and illness as well as calling her vulnerable and implying she doesnt know what she is doing and being used by others.

L1011 · 25-09-2019 8:39am

He's scared at the chance of being told he can't go to do his show from a hotel in New York or wherever for environmental reasons

dvdman1 · 25-09-2019 9:36am

He's prejudiced because of her age..he doesnt realise that the information shes saying is based on what the scientists have told her. Shes regularly consulting with ipcc scientists before speaches.

Climate activists choose a child, it had to be a child because their reputation would be inevitably attacked by climate deniers with vested interests.

It seems even a child is taken apart by critics..very shameful considering our planets state.

25-09-2019 9:40am

dvdman1 wrote: »

"she needs to be brought home and watch a movie. Just go for a walk with your da or your ma"

An out of touch overpaid twat or he has a point?

He’s spot on. I heard the mother of an aspergers child say similar on the radio yesterday. In her opinion the child was showing signs of distress and needed quiet time.

mordeith · 25-09-2019 9:44am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He’s spot on. I heard the mother of an aspergers child say similar on the radio yesterday. In her opinion the child was showing signs of distress and needed quiet time.

Or here's a mad thought. She's distressed at the politicians she's addressing doing nothing to tackle the issue she talks about. Tubridy should be thinking of the world his 16 year old could be living in at his age if things don't change.

memorystick · 25-09-2019 9:45am

Deleted User wrote: »

He’s spot on. I heard the mother of an aspergers child say similar on the radio yesterday. In her opinion the child was showing signs of distress and needed quiet time.

Does she ever laugh or smile? Tubs is a prîćk anyway.

tea and coffee · 25-09-2019 9:47am

VinLieger wrote: »

His talking points are ripped straight from the alt-right by attacking her age and illness as well as calling her vulnerable and implying she doesnt know what she is doing and being used by others.

I didn't hear what he said except what has been posted, but I don't think it's alt- right to suggest that a child and someone with autism might be vulnerable
I'm not saying she doesn't believe in what she is saying. She does and she is a great spokesperson, but it is naive to think that she got to the UN all by herself and therr aren't people behind her with an agenda - honourable and all as it may be.
They're happy to push her out into the limelight without too much thought for the effect that might have on her.

25-09-2019 9:48am

mordeith wrote: »

Or here's a mad thought. She's distressed at the politicians she's addressing doing nothing to tackle the issue she talks about. Tubridy should be thinking of the world his 16 year old could be living in at his age if things don't change.

She’s a vulnerable child. She is being abused by her parents and the worldwide community. Her distress is awful to watch. She is only a child. Give her back her childhood.

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-09-2019 9:50am

Firstly anyone who has listened to Tubridy over the years will know that he is more likely to skew left/liberal in his editorializing.

He has always been a cheerleader for the Obama's and thus anti Trump/GOP.

So to hear him say what he said was actually quite refreshing.

Anyone who does not see that is girl is a pawn for vested interests is blind.

VinLieger · 25-09-2019 9:51am

Deleted User wrote: »

She’s a vulnerable child. She is being abused by her parents and the worldwide community. Her distress is awful to watch. She is only a child. Give her back her childhood.

Pathetic attempts to ignore the message shes delivering, shes asking for her childhood back by stopping the damage being done to the planet.

Paranoid Mandroid · 25-09-2019 9:52am

Who cares what Ryan Tubridy has to say. Just one person's opinion. I don't agree with him but it doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Dr. Bre · 25-09-2019 9:54am

Looks like Greta won’t be getting an invite to the late late toy show..

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-09-2019 9:55am

I wish people would stand up and admit that we are all the ones doing the damage to the planet.

We like our cheap flights, our new cars, our out of season fruits all year round, our multiple devices charged and connected 24*7*365.

That all takes it toll.

grassroot1 · 25-09-2019 9:57am

People are taking what they want from this and we all see different things.
No fan of Tubridy but he saw her through the eyes of a dad and she was upset and needed comfort.
A 16 year old girl should not have to cross the world to tell us we need to change NOW
This girl has a form of autism it has nothing to do with her campaining but it must be taken into consideration when dealing with her

mordeith · 25-09-2019 9:59am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Anyone who does not see that is girl is a pawn for vested interests is blind.

These vested interests being . . .?

mordeith · 25-09-2019 10:01am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I wish people would stand up and admit that we are all the ones doing the damage to the planet.

We like our cheap flights, our new cars, our out of season fruits all year round, our multiple devices charged and connected 24*7*365.

That all takes it toll.

You're spot on there.

maestroamado · 25-09-2019 10:05am

dvdman1 wrote: »

"she needs to be brought home and watch a movie. Just go for a walk with your da or your ma"

An out of touch overpaid twat or he has a point?

I think Tubs is a total eejit and never watch or listen to him but i do agree with him on this.
What does it say about our World leaders and our scientists when the world spokesperson for climate change is a child.

What are we like?

B-D-P-- · 25-09-2019 10:10am

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Looks like Greta won’t be getting an invite to the late late toy show..

Of course she would be welcome on the show.

Do you think the greedy RTE F**kers would turn her away if she even suggested a remote interest in late late, even the toy show,

yourdeadwright · 25-09-2019 10:11am

dvdman1 wrote: »

"she needs to be brought home and watch a movie. Just go for a walk with your da or your ma"

An out of touch overpaid twat or he has a point?

She's just a child been used and feed lines , she is a political pawn, its exploitation ,

I believe she also suffers from Asperger syndrome , its unfair to trust her into such a spotlight where she will be ridiculed and picked apart,

I agree with the cause but its a cheap move from the powers on her side,

Podge_irl · 25-09-2019 10:17am

maestroamado wrote: »

I think Tubs is a total eejit and never watch or listen to him but i do agree with him on this.
What does it say about our World leaders and our scientists when the world spokesperson for climate change is a child.

What are we like?

She is not the "world spokesperson" but perhaps if world leaders and a large chunk of the world population weren't so blithe about the issue and stopped ignoring all the scientists we wouldn't be in this position. She is saying nothing that has not been said hundreds of time before, sometimes a messenger sticks more than the message.

I find it utterly bizarre that people think there is some kind of shadow conspiracy involving all the world's climate scientists yet ignore the incredibly overt lobbying and mountainous spending of the fossil fuel industry that is used to put forth their side.

yourdeadwright · 25-09-2019 10:17am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I wish people would stand up and admit that we are all the ones doing the damage to the planet.

We like our cheap flights, our new cars, our out of season fruits all year round, our multiple devices charged and connected 24*7*365.

That all takes it toll.

You do realise we are part of the planet we are not separate , we are the planet ,

The bio sphere created us so there for we are the bio sphere ,

Humans think we are something higher than we are,

Yes we are changing the planet but the planet has always changed and always will , The planet will be here long after we are gone,

I wonder if back in the ice age's where the groups complaining about the rising heat and the melting ice , Before that aas there picket of people saying save the T-rex ,

mordeith · 25-09-2019 10:20am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Before that aas there picket of people saying save the T-rex ,

I think you might be a few million years out there

Weepsie · 25-09-2019 10:20am

Does boards have a team of secret psychologists / psychiatrists who are able to diagnose aspergers from the comfort of their own home or something? If so, there are schools and parents up and down the country crying for your help.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 25-09-2019 10:25am

VinLieger wrote: »

Pathetic attempts to ignore the message shes delivering, shes asking for her childhood back by stopping the damage being done to the planet.

For god sake, climate change has had zero impact upon her childhood. Same as it hasn't on anyone in Ireland. It's so painfully disingenuous.

I'm fully behind action on climate change. But this girl's message feels off base to me.

yourdeadwright · 25-09-2019 10:29am

mordeith wrote: »

I think you might be a few million years out there

it was a joke

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-09-2019 10:47am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

You do realise we are part of the planet we are not separate , we are the planet ,

The bio sphere created us so there for we are the bio sphere ,

Humans think we are something higher than we are,

Yes we are changing the planet but the planet has always changed and always will , The planet will be here long after we are gone,

I wonder if back in the ice age's where the groups complaining about the rising heat and the melting ice , Before that aas there picket of people saying save the T-rex ,

I totally agree.
The planet has been warming and cooling for billions of years.

And species have evolved.

And humans in the long run will evolve.

I totally believe in climate change, but I don't think it can be stopped, not should it be stopped.

If we want to stop it then we give up everything we have in modern western society, and I don't think anyone is willing to do that.

I certainly am not.

socruel · 25-09-2019 10:51am

grassroot1 wrote: »

People are taking what they want from this and we all see different things.
No fan of Tubridy but he saw her through the eyes of a dad and she was upset and needed comfort.
A 16 year old girl should not have to cross the world to tell us we need to change NOW
This girl has a form of autism it has nothing to do with her campaining but it must be taken into consideration when dealing with her

Agreed the OP is a part of a quote taken out of context. Cant stand Trubridy but the reaction to what appear to be genuine concern on his part is ludicrous.

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-09-2019 10:51am

mordeith wrote: »

These vested interests being . . .?

People who will make a lot of money from public investment in green energy.

It's in their interest to overplay the planet is fcuked card.

Balf · 25-09-2019 10:52am

dvdman1 wrote: »

"she needs to be brought home and watch a movie. Just go for a walk with your da or your ma"

An out of touch overpaid twat or he has a point?

Out of touch. She wouldn't be doing any of this without the active support of her ma and her da.

I expect it is part contrived, and that's what annoys some of us. If the debate is between two shades of vacuous, then its hard to see it as progress.

But, yes, this particular circus is because more fundamental issues are not being progressed. For instance, I haven't seen anyone proporting to have any real role in Irish Agriculture saying "Brexit is a perfect opportunity for us to get out of beef production, and into something with more of a long-term future".

You'll see that kind of thing on the Interweb, but not in real life.

lalababa · 25-09-2019 11:02am

Ah yes, but WHAT have we got in modern western society?? That's the question. Well you could say plenty of food and shelter & health care & security etc. etc. But these seemingly basic things could easily exist without polluting the f##k outta the planet.
For example, French antropologists did a study on a few 'civilization isolated" pigmy tribes in the Amazon in the late 80's.
Now by 'modern western standards' these tribes hadn't a pot to piss in. No car, just a hut, no tv, no holiday to NY once a year, no decent salary, actually no money atall atall!
But they found that they got on well enough and we're reasonably happy.
The sientists compared all social and work parameters to an average middle class French family and found the tribes had less work time more pleasure time and family time and were very much less stressed!

sliabh 1956 · 25-09-2019 11:02am

I remember thinking as she spoke at the UN that's very emotive language for a young teen. I was compleetly underwhelmed by what she not not the content but the fact she came across a very angry young lady. And Turbidy was right to express concern about her as any caring parent would I imagine.

megaten · 25-09-2019 11:04am

sliabh 1956 wrote: »

I remember thinking as she spoke at the UN that's very emotive language for a young teen. I was compleetly underwhelmed by what she not not the content but the fact she came across a very angry young lady. And Turbidy was right to express concern about her as any caring parent would I imagine.

Hold on are you seriously surprised and concerned about a young person using emotive language? You know that sounds nuts? Emotive language is kind of what young people are known for.

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-09-2019 11:09am

lalababa wrote: »

Ah yes, but WHAT have we got in modern western society?? That's the question. Well you could say plenty of food and shelter & health care & security etc. etc. But these seemingly basic things could easily exist without polluting the f##k outta the planet.
For example, French antropologists did a study on a few 'civilization isolated" pigmy tribes in the Amazon in the late 80's.
Now by 'modern western standards' these tribes hadn't a pot to piss in. No car, just a hut, no tv, no holiday to NY once a year, no decent salary, actually no money atall atall!
But they found that they got on well enough and we're reasonably happy.
The sientists compared all social and work parameters to an average middle class French family and found the tribes had less work time more pleasure time and family time and were very much less stressed!

Oh please this is so naive.

We (21st century western society) have what we have.
We are used of having what we have
We work hard to earn income to have what we have.
We value what we have.

Amazonian tribes have what they have.
They are used of having what they have
They work hard to earn"income" to have what they have.
They value what they have.

You cannot expect modern western society to abandon all that we are used of for the sake of the planet.

Millionaire only not · 25-09-2019 11:15am

That girl has problems and she being abused by powers that be !
Her speech the last day was not from the heart only rehearsed lines in my opinion!
But the girl maybe right ?

But all I know it’s not the 4.5 million people or so in this country that’s going to save the planet

Leo going out to America they have probably more people than our population employed in the government/ civil servants
What’s the population of America 350/450 ?million and Asia another 1000 million ?
People would want to get a grip , we can’t run a country of 4 with 1.5milion of that concentrated in one city !

The Donald must have s good laugh when he meets our modern Taoiseach

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 25-09-2019 11:15am

lalababa wrote: »

Ah yes, but WHAT have we got in modern western society?? That's the question. Well you could say plenty of food and shelter & health care & security etc. etc. But these seemingly basic things could easily exist without polluting the f##k outta the planet.
For example, French antropologists did a study on a few 'civilization isolated" pigmy tribes in the Amazon in the late 80's.
Now by 'modern western standards' these tribes hadn't a pot to piss in. No car, just a hut, no tv, no holiday to NY once a year, no decent salary, actually no money atall atall!
But they found that they got on well enough and we're reasonably happy.
The sientists compared all social and work parameters to an average middle class French family and found the tribes had less work time more pleasure time and family time and were very much less stressed!

That's interesting. I would have thought modern medicine would tip the balance in favour of the Western World. Also food security.

But on a social and mental health level I could see how isolated tribes are generally more content with the world they live in.

25-09-2019 11:22am

lalababa wrote: »

Ah yes, but WHAT have we got in modern western society?? That's the question. Well you could say plenty of food and shelter & health care & security etc. etc. But these seemingly basic things could easily exist without polluting the f##k outta the planet.
For example, French antropologists did a study on a few 'civilization isolated" pigmy tribes in the Amazon in the late 80's.
Now by 'modern western standards' these tribes hadn't a pot to piss in. No car, just a hut, no tv, no holiday to NY once a year, no decent salary, actually no money atall atall!
But they found that they got on well enough and we're reasonably happy.
The sientists compared all social and work parameters to an average middle class French family and found the tribes had less work time more pleasure time and family time and were very much less stressed!

And have a life expectancy of maybe 40 years..............

gormdubhgorm · 25-09-2019 12:16pm

dvdman1 wrote: »

"she needs to be brought home and watch a movie. Just go for a walk with your da or your ma"

An out of touch overpaid twat or he has a point?

I heard this on the radio yesterday and you are being deliberately disingenious taking Tubridy's comment out of context.

He mentioned about how he was conflicted by such a young girl who he admires for her conviction. But she clearly has issues, and he wondered if it is good for her health giving speeches with such passion, worry and angst in front of the world's glare.
He mentioned how her face was contorted etc etc.

He sounded concerned for her well being as he himself was a father and chose his words as delicately as he could while ad libbing.
His main point was that the girl needs to be careful considering her condition and the level of emotion and angst it is causing her.

Others on the other hand want to try and frame it as some throw away thoughtless comment - if you listen to his complete comments nothing can be further from the truth.

fiveleavesleft · 25-09-2019 12:29pm

He's just getting in the zone for the Toy Show. Its obvious from shows past he dislikes kids.

Akabusi · 25-09-2019 12:40pm

maestroamado wrote: »

I think Tubs is a total eejit and never watch or listen to him but i do agree with him on this.
What does it say about our World leaders and our scientists when the world spokesperson for climate change is a child.

What are we like?

You couldn't have put it any better - People can hold the position that this girl is being taken advantage off to sell a message and yet you yourself can also care just as much about the future of the planet as the people cheering and applauding her.

Oh and Tubs is very lucky because he has a job and salary that his talents do not match in any way.

gormdubhgorm · 25-09-2019 12:41pm

VinLieger wrote: »

His talking points are ripped straight from the alt-right by attacking her age and illness as well as calling her vulnerable and implying she doesnt know what she is doing and being used by others.

dvdman1 wrote: »

He's prejudiced because of her age..he doesnt realise that the information shes saying is based on what the scientists have told her. Shes regularly consulting with ipcc scientists before speaches.

Climate activists choose a child, it had to be a child because their reputation would be inevitably attacked by climate deniers with vested interests.

It seems even a child is taken apart by critics..very shameful considering our planets state.

These are silly type of comments first off alt-right is an Americanism which only applies to American politics. Irish politics is far different.
Tubridy did not 'attack' her age and her illness.
Interestingly you use the term 'illness' Michael Knowles got castigated for saying that instead of disorder.
If you look up Thunberg and Aspergers she claims that her condition made her a climate activist as she can see 'clearly' she calls it her 'superpower'.
As she sees things in black and white.

Tubridy showed concern for her well being and had mixed feelings about the whole thing. In that she was passionate and standing up for a cause but it looks like it is doing her damage?
I believe he pointed out that someone close to Thunberg should have a word with her.
I said the exact same thing on another thread about Thunberg (first one that came up after a search) and got banned for it.
To me that shows the level of hysteria around the issue.
If Thunberg mentions it is a gift, if others mention it - it is an attack.

As for Thunberg giving information she has yet to give any actual information, she is just high on panicky emotive rhetoric. No solutions just noise.

She has put herself up there to be critised either positively or negatively.
Thunberg seems to be called a child when it is used by some to deflect any critisism.
Yet she is 16 years old - old enough for the age of consent in Sweden (15) Old enough to drive in Sweden (16)

It is telling to me that she has not got in any debates with anyone.
It is almost like she is just being used as a mouth piece like those Chinese Child emperors of yore.
Is Thunberg being exploited?

I think it is very unfair attacking Tubridy without listening to his full comments on Thunberg.
Personally I think he had some very valid points.

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Oh and before someone hysterically attacks me - no I am not a climate change denier - I am just a person who listened to the full comments RTE by Tubridy which is why I became aware of the whole thing in the first place.

briany · 25-09-2019 12:56pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

You cannot expect modern western society to abandon all that we are used of for the sake of the planet.

"Climate change? Meh....

Transgender children????!!!!! *starts foaming at the mouth*"

25-09-2019 1:06pm

megaten wrote: »

Hold on are you seriously surprised and concerned about a young person using emotive language? You know that sounds nuts? Emotive language is kind of what young people are known for.

Any parent watching her speech would feel like Tubridy. She needs caring for. Not used as shamelessly as this.

Her points are very valid. Her method of delivery worrying.

riffmongous · 25-09-2019 1:08pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

These are silly type of comments first off alt-right is an Americanism which only applies to American politics. Irish politics is far different.
Tubridy did not 'attack' her age and her illness.
Interestingly you use the term 'illness' Michael Knowles got castigated for saying that instead of disorder.
If you look up Thunberg and Aspergers she claims that her condition made her a climate activist as she can see 'clearly' she calls it her 'superpower'.
As she sees things in black and white.

Tubridy showed concern for her well being and had mixed feelings about the whole thing. In that she was passionate and standing up for a cause but it looks like it is doing her damage?
I believe he pointed out that someone close to Thunberg should have a word with her.
I said the exact same thing on another thread about Thunberg (first one that came up after a search) and got banned for it.
To me that shows the level of hysteria around the issue.
If Thunberg mentions it is a gift, if others mention it - it is an attack.

As for Thunberg giving information she has yet to give any actual information, she is just high on panicky emotive rhetoric. No solutions just noise.

She has put herself up there to be critised either positively or negatively.
Thunberg seems to be called a child when it is used by some to deflect any critisism.
Yet she is 16 years old - old enough for the age of consent in Sweden (15) Old enough to drive in Sweden (16)

It is telling to me that she has not got in any debates with anyone.
It is almost like she is just being used as a mouth piece like those Chinese Child emperors of yore.
Is Thunberg being exploited?

I think it is very unfair attacking Tubridy without listening to his full comments on Thunberg.
Personally I think he had some very valid points.

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Oh and before someone hysterically attacks me - no I am not a climate change denier - I am just a person who listened to the full comments RTE by Tubridy which is why I became aware of the whole thing in the first place.

Why would she need to be in a debate or give information herself? Her whole stick is " listen to the scientists". Btw the main group of people referring to her as a child are those trying to dismiss her

gormdubhgorm · 25-09-2019 1:23pm

riffmongous wrote: »

Why would she need to be in a debate or give information herself? Her whole stick is " listen to the scientists". Btw the main group of people referring to her as a child are those trying to dismiss her

It would be grand if she maintained the 'listen to the scientists' line that would make sense.
But now she has moved on to 'stolen my childhood' 'how dare you'.

As regard the child thing the dynamic is very odd.

When people question her logic or mental state - the answer is you cannot say that about a child.

Others on the other side say she is an inspiration to other children - the future etc.

It seems it will be another two years at least before the shield and/or veneer of being 'a child' is removed. Then proper commentary can begin?

marcos_94 · 25-09-2019 1:25pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

You do realise we are part of the planet we are not separate , we are the planet ,

The bio sphere created us so there for we are the bio sphere ,

Humans think we are something higher than we are,

Yes we are changing the planet but the planet has always changed and always will , The planet will be here long after we are gone,

I wonder if back in the ice age's where the groups complaining about the rising heat and the melting ice , Before that aas there picket of people saying save the T-rex ,

Ah of course, you're dead right. I forgot that cars, planes, coal plants, gas plants, boats, etc are all part of nature and have always existed and thus don't contribute negatively to our bio sphere.

briany · 25-09-2019 1:36pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It would be grand if she maintained the 'listen to the scientists' line that would make sense.
But now she has moved on to 'stolen my childhood' 'how dare you'.

A lot of people aren't listening to the scientists, though. You have people like Jeremy Corbyn's brother Piers Corbyn, who reckon that there's a lot of money in this climate change lark. Scientists on the take, governments cleaning up on the carbon taxes etc.

Not that there's any money in the climate-change denial. Keeping all the manufacturing going, and not having to bother implementing environmental standards - no, siree.

Podge_irl · 25-09-2019 1:43pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It would be grand if she maintained the 'listen to the scientists' line that would make sense.
But now she has moved on to 'stolen my childhood' 'how dare you'.

That is entirely consistent with her original point. Because people are quite clearly still not listening to the overwhelming scientific consensus.

James Brown · 25-09-2019 1:44pm

dvdman1 wrote: »

"she needs to be brought home and watch a movie. Just go for a walk with your da or your ma"

An out of touch overpaid twat or he has a point?

Wasn't himself on the radio at an even younger age giving reviews? I remember him on telly doing book reviews.
This privileged RTE royal is either not getting it or trying to be controversial. It's too late in the day for Tubbs the gaffe making bland host of a zombie talk show to try that. Likely he's just settling in to his old fogey mode having been a young fogey all his life
She's a symbol to raise awareness not a scientist.

gormdubhgorm · 25-09-2019 2:03pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

That is entirely consistent with her original point. Because people are quite clearly still not listening to the overwhelming scientific consensus.

It is not though how has her 'childhood being stolen' for a start? She is 16 years of age and has lived a happy and comfortable life.
Well to do parents nice home, education etc etc.
Climate change activism just happens to be her hobby.

Hyperbole like 'stolen childhood' that helps no-one.

riffmongous · 25-09-2019 2:08pm

briany wrote: »

A lot of people aren't listening to the scientists, though. You have people like Jeremy Corbyn's brother Piers Corbyn, who reckon that there's a lot of money in this climate change lark. Scientists on the take, governments cleaning up on the carbon taxes etc.

Not that there's any money in the climate-change denial. Keeping all the manufacturing going, and not having to bother implementing environmental standards - no, siree.

The whole money things makes no sense, for example check out the job Met Eireann are advertising at the moment, around 35k for someone who should ideally have a PhD!

Ryan Tubridy comments about Greta Thunberg

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