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Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    It is very clear the current American regime that assumed office on 9th April 2018 are to blame for all this carry on. The whole world need to treat this American regime and its REAL LEADER John Bolton as the pariahs they are. Pressure both internally and externally should be put on Trump to get rid of the evil regime that he has allowed form under his eye. NOBODY wants Bolton and his rubbish policy and this dystopian nightmare needs to be ended. With more Republicans coming out and criticising this regime, let's hope we will see the back of them ASAP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The whole world need to treat this American regime and its REAL LEADER John Bolton

    Not this nonsensical cak again.

    Bolton this , Bolton that I seen a completely fictional TV program and using this to rant about as some kind of koolaid instead sticking to reality


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    Gatling wrote: »
    Not this nonsensical cak again.

    Bolton this , Bolton that I seen a completely fictional TV program and using this to rant about as some kind of koolaid instead sticking to reality

    The reality is Bolton is a warmonger and a war criminal who has not learned his bloody lesson from Iraq. It is obvious that Bolton has Trump where he wants him: after the midterms, Trump would have distanced himself from Bolton and remodeled himself like GW Bush did otherwise. Trump didn't because Trump works for Bolton and Pompeo.

    Bolton is not a character from a fictional TV show. He is real. And he is in control of the regime. I saw a misogynist warmongering pig like him being stabbed and bludgeoned to death by his intended victim in a fictional TV series last Thursday evening but sadly it was fictional and not real! Bolton has this coming to him and let's hope he gets beaten to death in prison in the near future. These American Nazis need to get the same treatment as the leftovers of Hitler's regime did. They are the very same: they speak English, not German and live in the 2010s and not 1930s/1940s. But that's the only differences.

    Trump is irrelevant since 9th April 2018. Everyone knows this, apart from Trump himself!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    The reality is Bolton is a warmonger and a war criminal who has not learned his bloody lesson from Iraq. It is obvious that Bolton has Trump where he wants him: after the midterms, Trump would have distanced himself from Bolton and remodeled himself like GW Bush did otherwise. Trump didn't because Trump works for Bolton and Pompeo.

    Bolton is not a character from a fictional TV show. He is real. And he is in control of the regime. I saw a misogynist warmongering pig like him being stabbed and bludgeoned to death by his intended victim in a fictional TV series last Thursday evening but sadly it was fictional and not real! Bolton has this coming to him and let's hope he gets beaten to death in prison in the near future. These American Nazis need to get the same treatment as the leftovers of Hitler's regime did. They are the very same: they speak English, not German and live in the 2010s and not 1930s/1940s. But that's the only differences.

    Trump is irrelevant since 9th April 2018. Everyone knows this, apart from Trump himself!

    WOW, just WOW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    There is something going on with Iran right now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,740 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    There is something going on with Iran right now.

    Details?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭InTheShadows


    You fucking idiot, after 2001 oil prices went up sky high, so did petrol/diesel, when they came back down that didn't and never has registered on the billboards outside the garages.

    Iran can hit back in a lot of asymmetrical ways, and they will, never doubt that, the USA will need to buy oil and gas from Russia or Venezuela, the petro blabber is ****ed, the world is entering a new stage, US influence is in decline, China and Russia designed and upgraded carrier killers since the 80's, they now have improved and perfected them to do what it says on the tin, I fear you are one day going to look like a dejected kid walking home crying with his stars and stripes flag between his legs.

    Okay comrade


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭rapul


    Gibraltar have released the Iranian tanker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    rapul wrote: »
    Gibraltar have released the Iranian tanker

    Apparently trump wanted it held ,some how I expect to hear US navy seals boarding it in a few days


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭rapul


    Gatling wrote: »
    Apparently trump wanted it held ,some how I expect to hear US navy seals boarding it in a few days

    Yeah heard that alrite, England want to keep terms okish with Tehran if possible and apparently Iran has said the tanker will not go to Syria and it will be watched so will be interesting with regards to your prediction on the Trump end


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,346 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Saudi Arabia have upgraded their overland pipelines to 7mbpd, which is their daily export amount, so theoretically they don't need to use the straits, and while this will increase some shipping costs, it will reduce insurance.

    So who will now get impacted by a blockade ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    Apparently trump wanted it held ,some how I expect to hear US navy seals boarding it in a few days

    The UK made the decision to release the tanker? Would the US navy pirated it again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    smurfjed wrote: »

    So who will now get impacted by a blockade ?

    Very few I believe ,oil prices haven't budged at all since this all started ,no panic buying or sudden price increases Iran needs to realise the world is moving on from ME oil and finding alternatives ,
    Leaving them with empty threats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Gatling wrote: »
    Apparently trump wanted it held ,some how I expect to hear US navy seals boarding it in a few days

    I hope not. That would be an act of piracy/war if done in international waters - there not being any UN approved sanctions against Iran.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The price of oil hasn't gone up, only because it looks like Trump has triggered a recession and trade war and the number crunchers have come to the conclusion that demand for oil is likely to fall a lot in the near term. Ordinarily I would have expected it to have gone up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    cnocbui wrote: »
    I hope not. That would be an act of piracy/war if done in international waters - there not being any UN approved sanctions against Iran.

    If they think it's going to Syria then its fair game (open to correction)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,346 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    My understanding was that the oil was stopped as it was going to Syria and not because it was specifically Iranian. So if the ship just leaves the Med, then they have no justification to stop it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    If they think it's going to Syria then its fair game (open to correction)

    You might be spot on for once. Hearing the US has issued a warrant to seize the Iranian tanker grace 1. How it will happen have to wait and see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    You might be spot on

    Usual am .


    Could well see some navy seals via Italy boarding in the next few days


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭rapul


    So America have issued a warrant to seize the Grace 1 if it leaves Gibraltar


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    rapul wrote: »
    So America have issued a warrant to seize the Grace 1 if it leaves Gibraltar

    Yes they did


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭rapul


    Gatling wrote: »
    Yes they did

    How do you feel about that Netanyahu?

    But seriously one has to wonder if America do seize it will Iran do anything, can only be pushed so far before something happens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    rapul wrote: »

    But seriously one has to wonder if America do seize it will Iran do anything, can only be pushed so far before something happens

    It's more than likely iran will tell the tanker to stay put for fear of US navy siezing it ,and face loosing millions of dollars if US courts find it breached it's sanctions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,346 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    All the Iranians have to do is sail out of the Med and change the destination to Iran, therefore the ship couldn't be touched. Then somewhere along the west africa coast, offload the oil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    smurfjed wrote: »
    All the Iranians have to do is sail out of the Med and change the destination to Iran, therefore the ship couldn't be touched. Then somewhere along the west africa coast, offload the oil.

    In theory yes ,

    But in reality the moment they power up their engine's in Gibraltar there will be a US boat or helicopter ready to intercept where ever it goes ,
    I believe the warrant is for breaching sanctions and funding of terrorist organisations , safe to assume it's no longer about where the oil was destined for ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The warrant is based on domestic US laws and therefore has no UN backing. Where does the US get the legal authority to apply US law in International waters?

    It's no different than an Iranian court declaring a US ship has breached some law that applies in Iran and then using that as a pretext to attack said vessel when it's in International waters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    cnocbui wrote: »

    It's no different than an Iranian court declaring a US ship has breached some law that applies in Iran and then using that as a pretext to attack said vessel when it's in International waters.

    This is what Iran has already done at least 3 times ,

    International waters offers you little or no legal protections when it comes to situations like this ,

    I'm sure there is some legal argument to allow it to happen some how ,

    It's like when other countries extradite citizens for prosecution in the US when they didn't break laws in their own country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Iranian government says Grace 1 will be leaving Gibraltar this evening or tomorrow afternoon ,
    They also renamed the vessel to Adrian Darya-1


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭rapul


    Gatling wrote: »
    Iranian government says Grace 1 will be leaving Gibraltar this evening or tomorrow afternoon ,
    They also renamed the vessel to Adrian Darya-1

    Yes they did


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Drones have altered the game in the Middle East



    Long Range Attack On Saudi Oil Field Ends War On Yemen
    Today Saudi Arabia finally lost the war on Yemen. It has no defenses against new weapons the Houthis in Yemen acquired. These weapons threaten the Saudis economic lifelines. This today was the decisive attack:

    Drones launched by Yemen’s Houthi rebels attacked a massive oil and gas field deep inside Saudi Arabia’s sprawling desert on Saturday, causing what the kingdom described as a “limited fire” in the second such recent attack on its crucial energy industry.

    <snip>
    The attack conclusively demonstrates that the most important assets of the Saudis are now under threat. This economic threat comes on top of a seven percent budget deficit the IMF predicts for Saudi Arabia. Further Saudi bombing against the Houthi will now have very significant additional cost that might even endanger the viability of the Saudi state. The Houthi have clown prince Mohammad bin Salman by the balls and can squeeze those at will.

    The drones and missiles the Houthi use are copies of Iranian designs assembled in Yemen with the help of Hizbullah experts from Lebanon. Four days ago a Houthi delegation visited Iran. During the visit Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei for the first time publicly admitted that the Houthi have Iran's support:



    source


    Also

    Syria - Frontline Breach Opens Door To A Deep Battle For Idlib



    Iran oil tanker: Gibraltar orders release of Grace 1


    Gibraltar defies US and releases seized Iranian tanker Grace 1

    US issues warrant to seize Iranian oil tanker Grace 1

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Drones have altered the game in the Middle East

    It's gotten more common but for most part it's just Iran poking Saudi Arabia trying to draw them in deeper or trying to get the US to react ,

    The Iranian drones tend to be not the most accurate of vehicles for combat ,most new anti systems are now equipped for anti drone operations which would make all but the best useless in certain cases .but they could have a pysoclogical effect showing iran can hit saudi


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    Iranian government says Grace 1 will be leaving Gibraltar this evening or tomorrow afternoon ,
    They also renamed the vessel to Adrian Darya-1

    Tracking ok now heading to Greece. Not boarded yet. US issued a warrant authorities refused the request. Should know by Tomorrow, if action was taken. I think the British want their tanker back, they probably made a deal with Iran?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I think the British want their tanker back, they probably made a deal with Iran?

    The empty one with no British crew vs tanker with millions of dollars worth of oil .
    Makes you wonder what Iran had to give up


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Alpha_zero


    Gatling wrote: »
    The empty one with no British crew vs tanker with millions of dollars worth of oil .
    Makes you wonder what Iran had to give up

    The tanker that was seized where the British warship watched and did nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    The tanker that was seized where the British warship watched and did nothing.

    Not true unfortunately


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    I get the feeling most of this stuff is faked and is there to suit certain countries, the oil industry, the arms industry and the stock market. 'Unimportant countries' like Yemen suffer the most so some stock market tycoon type can gain massive profits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,346 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    I think that you will find that the Yemenis have always desired to fight each other, even now do you know how many factions are involved ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    The empty one with no British crew vs tanker with millions of dollars worth of oil .
    Makes you wonder what Iran had to give up

    Still a British flagged tanker. Looks brand new.

    The Iranian Grace 1 tanker old and rusty.

    The Grace 1 now travelling at 7 knots an hour. It travelling slow, at this speed it take many days, to a week for it to reach Greece.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Still a British flagged tanker. Looks brand new.

    The Iranian Grace 1 tanker old and rusty.
    .

    Full of black gold., 2 million barrels to exact

    Iran threatened to dispatch it's navy to Gibraltar to protect it's oil don't think anyone took any real notice of the threat


    "Greece has refused to help the Iranian tanker recently detained in Gibraltar on suspicion of shipping oil to Syria.

    Deputy foreign minister Miltiadis Varvitsiotis told broadcaster ANT1 his country was "not willing to facilitate the course of this ship to Syria".

    The move comes after US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo threatened sanctions on any country that helps the tanker.

    Adrian Darya-1 left Gibraltar on Sunday and listed the Greek port Kalamata as its destination"


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49419375


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    Pompeo is a disgrace. He should mind his own business and but out of Iran's, Gibraltar's, Greece's and Syria's affairs. The nerve of this guy threatening countries all over the world. Pompeo is a member of one of the worst regimes ever on the face of the earth and does not realise it. Pompeo and all that April 2018 shower are just modern versions of the Nazis and are in NO POSITION to criticise any other nation.

    Pompeo and his regime are the United States of nothing. Divisive Neo-Nazis more like it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The tanker has know suggested it's new destination in a port in Turkey which is about 100 miles from the Syrian port it was planned to head to originally


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,801 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    So Iranian FM arrives at the g7, invited by the French apparently and not due to talk with Trump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Israel now claiming they have prevented an imminent Iranian attack.

    https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1165377368220942337

    https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1165371928141533185

    There was also an incident in Beruit Lebanon, last night. A drone loaded with TNT damaged a Hezbollah office. Hezbollah blames Israel for the attack. Hezbollah plans to strike back it will likely happen in the next 24 hours?

    https://www-1.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/article234356277.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Israel now claiming they have prevented an imminent Iranian attack.

    Pretty regular occurrence ,

    Iran moves equipment or men and Israel strikes -

    iran then are afraid to respond


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    Pretty regular occurrence ,

    Iran moves equipment or men and Israel strikes -

    iran then are afraid to respond

    No. Israel is saying Iran was about to launch a major drone strike. Very different news.

    Hezbollah leader now appeared on TV and claiming they will respond militarily to this, in hours or days. Tensions are about to go up a level, if Hezbollah fires rockets into Israel territory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    No. Israel is saying Iran was about to launch a major drone strike. Very different news.

    Not different at all ,as I said Iran moves equipment and men and Israel strikes .
    Nothing new for several decades,

    A few rockets get fired towards Israel who them return the favour with overwhelming force ,
    Iran and hizbolla shut up for a while and we start again





    "Israel has struck Iranian military sites in Syria to prevent what it said was a pending drone strike by Iran.

    Israel's military rarely acknowledges operations in Syria, but it claimed on Saturday its strikes had prevented an attack on Israel "using killer drones".

    PM Benjamin Netanyahu hailed his military's "major operational effort".

    Israel is believed to have carried out hundreds of strikes in Syria since civil war broke out there in 2011, to try to prevent Iran gaining a foothold.

    An Israeli military spokesman said the strikes on Saturday targeted Iran's Quds force in Aqraba, south-east of the capital, Damascus.

    A Syrian military source quoted by the official Sana news agency said that Syrian anti-aircraft defences "detected enemy targets from Golan heading towards the area around Damascus".

    "The aggression was immediately confronted and so far the majority of the enemy Israeli missiles have been destroyed before reaching their targets," the source said.

    In a tweet, Mr Netanyahu said: "I reiterate: Iran has no immunity anywhere. Our forces operate in every sector against the Iranian aggression. 'If someone rises up to kill you, kill him first.'"


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49464546





    I love how the Syrians claimed to have intercepted and shot down the missles (something they been proved incapable of doing)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    Israel now claiming they have prevented an imminent Iranian attack.

    How much for the rock?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    Not different at all ,as I said Iran moves equipment and men and Israel strikes .
    Nothing new for several decades,

    A few rockets get fired towards Israel who them return the favour with overwhelming force ,
    Iran and hizbolla shut up for a while and we start again


    I love how the Syrians claimed to have intercepted and shot down the missles (something they been proved incapable of doing)

    Very different, supposedly this time, an imminent Iranian drone attack was just about to happen. They hit the site, last night before drones could cross the Syrian border and strike Israel

    Israel, yes you correct carries out strikes inside Syria to stop the flow of Iranian weapons.Yet i don't see how that can be considered an imminent threat to Israel?. They're just handing over to the Iranian - Syrian groups better military hardware, that may in the future be used.

    Israel has not striked inside Lebanon since 2006. Last night attack was an escalation .There IDF airstrikes occuring inside, east Lebanon tonight in last half hour. Unclear right now if they have hit a Palestinian or Hezbollah target inside Lebanon. Israel has opened a new front this weekend and we have to wait and see if Hezbelloh will hit back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Very different, supposedly this time, an imminent Iranian drone attack was just about to happen.

    "Claimed" is the keyword here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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