Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

Gatling

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Iran should build a massive tanker that's able to swallow up other tankers, a sort of idea based on The Spy Who Loved Me...

The Americans did that and recovered a russian submarine that sank ,
Genius Howard Hughes made it happen

Cheerful Spring2

Iran now claiming a capture of second ship, we entering a war footing.

jackboy

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Iran now claiming a capture of second ship, we entering a war footing.

They are making a terrible mistake. This can only end bad for Iran.

Timberrrrrrrr

Gatling wrote: »

No again don't make **** up .

You have been talking (gleefully) about military strikes for days now. Anyome can read your posts and make their own. minds up.

Cheerful Spring2

jackboy wrote: »

They are making a terrible mistake. This can only end bad for Iran.

IRGC are reporting a second tanker vessel Mesdar is now captured, this is huge if they have taken not one but two vessels.

Mesdar tanker is now missing in Iranian waters. Yep it lot more serious when you take two tankers.

Gatling

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You have been talking (gleefully)
Anyome can read your posts and make their own.

Make up crap.


If you read my posts I've been saying war wasn't going to happen -


Remember it's your comrades who are in the firing line

Melanchthon

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Its seem another incident is underway. Mesdar Tanker is now diverting from its orginal course and moving into Iranian claimed waters.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:754161/zoom:10

Can be seen here, I think somebody in the Republican Guard has shares in ship tracking websites because they are going to be getting a lot of traffic

TheValeyard

Political leaders need some cool heads here. Could easily become something quiet big and nasty.

jackboy

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

IRGC are reporting a second tanker vessel Mesdar is now captured, this is huge if they have taken not one but two vessels.

Mesdar tanker is now missing in Iranian waters. Yep it lot more serious when you take two tankers.

This is obviously a thought out planned operation. Can’t figure out what the aim is. Maybe the sanctions are working and they are now absolutely desperate.

Gringo180

Gatling wrote: »

What was the claim you made earlier someone is baiting iran seems iran is the aggressor in this .

Lol.

By your logic if I punch you in the face and you punch me back your the aggressor :pac:

Cheerful Spring2

jackboy wrote: »

This is obviously a thought out planned operation. Can’t figure out what the aim is. Maybe the sanctions are working and they are now absolutely desperate.

Sky news is now reporting about the second ship, diversion. Yep this was planned out.

They said they would do this for the UK seizure of Grace 1. They showing their muscle they will not be bullied!

Atlantic Dawn

TheValeyard wrote: »

Political leaders need some cool heads here. Could easily become something quiet big and nasty.

Theresa May might want to go out with fireworks for her final days in office.

Gatling

jackboy wrote: »

This is obviously a thought out planned operation. Can’t figure out what the aim is. Maybe the sanctions are working and they are now absolutely desperate.

They can't win either way ,

Not politically and definitely not militarily


They have entered in to a suicidal zone

gifted

Old American political trick before elections....bush snr did it with iraq...Clinton did it with saddam as well....bush jnr did it with Iraq ( badly)...Obama did it with bin laden before his second election.....Trump wants to flex his military muscle because there's an election coming up next year and the yanks love nothing better than a war where they're seen as the good guys

Cheerful Spring2

US Defence Officials confirm to @barbarastarrcnn that a second (British-linked) tanker, the Mesdar, has also been seized by Iranian forces today.

We not going to war yet. The ships are undamaged and nobody was killed yet. Still it is a crisis, yet still can be solved diplomatically. I worry John bolton and Pompeo will push for a military reaction though

Atlantic Dawn

gifted wrote: »

Old American political trick before elections....bush snr did it with iraq...Clinton did it with saddam as well....bush jnr did it with Iraq ( badly)...Obama did it with bin laden before his second election.....Trump wants to flex his military muscle because there's an election coming up next year and the yanks love nothing better than a war where they're seen as the good guys

Top Gun 2 released next year too

Franz Von Peppercorn II

I don’t think this is a false flag. You never know with the western agencies though.

That said Iran seems to want war. They may feel they have some hope.

TheValeyard

The game pieces are really coming together to spark a conflict.

Melanchthon

Gatling wrote: »

They can't win either way ,

Not politically and definitely not militarily


They have entered in to a suicidal zone

My take on it is that they are doing this because they see the EU as weak and UK in governmental deadlock.
They think the EU is weak and won't stop not having sanctions against Iran because the EU has been weak on Iran.
Killing dissidents in Netherlands, attempting to kill them in Denmark, and a bomb in France and the response was simply sanctions against individuals.

The EU is terrified that if Iran implodes there will be another refugee crisis and those in charge within Germany, France and the EU itself know something like that would boost their ideological opponents RE Orban and Salvini etc

Gatling

What's the stance on negotiations with terrorists

Larbre34

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

We not going to war yet.

We? The only 'we' about this is the effect on wholesale oil prices.

The Brits were sharp enough to impound that tanker in the Strait of Gibraltar considering they haven't nearly the resources to patrol the Gulf and escort the 100+ British linked vessels transiting the Gulf at any time. Another case of hitching the wagon to America and ending up covered in horse shyt.

archer22

So all that military and high tech stuff belonging to the Empire and it's vassal in the gulf and still Iran is able to do what it wants when it wants ha ha

Doesn't look good for the Imperial navies if a shooting match breaks out...looks like Iran is more than a match for them :cool:

Cheerful Spring2

Trump will make a statement soon, according to sources. It confirmed now they have taken two British oil tankers, only one announced on Sky news, but that confirmation will happen soon.

Cheerful Spring2

CNN has got there already.

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1152296502515195905

archer22

Basically Trump set the Bear trap...now he's got his own balls caught in it.

super_furry

Gatling wrote: »

What's the stance on negotiations with terrorists

Send in Van Damme.

Larbre34

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Trump will make a statement soon, according to sources. It confirmed now they have taken two British oil tankers, only one announced on Sky news, but that confirmation will happen soon.

Trump just made a largely non-committal and fact light statement which he used to put the usual boot into Theresa May, also more or less said there is no formal agreement with the UK but that they will talk to them about it.

Gatling

super_furry wrote: »

Send in Van Damme.

Charlie sheen and his seal team

Gringo180

Is John Rambo still around?

Larbre34

Gatling wrote: »

Charlie sheen and his seal team

He's retired since he took out Saddam with President Bridges.