Waterford developments

curmudgeonly · 15-07-2019 10:31AM

Azatadine wrote: »

What's going into the big site that's being cleared off out by Bausch and Lomb? Across the road from Sanofi and West?

Potential B& L extension but only groundworks contract being completed at this stage.

curmudgeonly · 15-07-2019 10:39AM

https://www.velocityvr.ie/

All you techie people should love this new development in the City

Johnboy1951 · 15-07-2019 10:50AM

curmudgeonly wrote: »

https://www.velocityvr.ie/

All you techie people should love this new development in the City

Just as well I looked at the map ...... I would never have associated Cleaboy Road with Cork Road!

We can't wait to hear from you
Cork Road

Waterford

X91 AP22

curmudgeonly · 15-07-2019 11:05AM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Just as well I looked at the map ...... I would never have associated Cleaboy Road with Cork Road!

Its in the old paint shop beside Pierce hire and opposite Ramen, I believe their head office is in Cleaboy where they do Broadband.

I'm not associated with it or shilling just thought it was a good addition to the Waterford Inc package?

Johnboy1951 · 15-07-2019 11:10AM

curmudgeonly wrote: »

Its in the old paint shop beside Pierce hire and opposite Ramen, I believe their head office is in Cleaboy where they do Broadband.

I'm not associated with it or shilling just thought it was a good addition to the Waterford Inc package?

Oh I think it should be a very interesting experience for those interested.

I was only pointing out that the map showed the Cleaboy location and in the text there is this

Our free roaming experience is located at the Cork Road, Waterford, X91 AP22

Yes they mention other named premises they are close to, but that is hardly useful to anyone who is not familiar with those premises.

It just seemed odd to me, that's all.

Maybe it is that they do not want to post the actual location because they definitely do not want anyone dropping in without an appointment.

Harry Palmr · 15-07-2019 11:21AM

Velocity looks like a big boy's works night out.

beazee · 15-07-2019 01:30PM

hardybuck wrote: »

What's going into the site across from the old Waterford Crystal site on the corner lights beside Circle K?

Application Number 18726
Received Date 26/10/2018
Application Status Application Finalised
Application Type PERMISSION
Applicant Name Noel Frisby Construction Ltd.,

Description (1) construct a vehicular access to Ballybeg Drive and (2) raise existing levels of a derelict site using clean inert soil and stones (EU Waste Class 17 0504) for the purpose of future development of the site. An application for a waste disposal permit will be sought post planning

Location Kilbarry Cork Road Waterford
Decision Granted (Conditional)
Decision Date 14/02/2019

razorronan · 16-07-2019 02:57PM

Sounds like it will be just be a place to accept soil and stone waste.

razorronan · 30-07-2019 10:15AM

Plans for the Transport Hub on Waterford’s North Quays went on public display on 26 July. Waterford City and County Council’s Part 8 planning application proposes the construction of a new train station to replace the existing Plunkett Station. It also includes a new bus set down area and short-term parking facilities.

kuang1 · 30-07-2019 01:29PM

Anyone know what the road works on the ring road (starting on 6th August) will entail?
Going on until September 20th sign by GIY says?

Harry Palmr · 30-07-2019 02:26PM

Nope, and the WC site has nothing about this which is poor.

Max Powers · 30-07-2019 07:50PM

kuang1 wrote: »

Anyone know what the road works on the ring road (starting on 6th August) will entail?
Going on until September 20th sign by GIY says?

Probably just some resurfacing, cant think of much else, maybe some pipe repairs

Harry Palmr · 30-07-2019 09:44PM

Waterford lack of developments

https://www.wlrfm.com/2019/07/30/one-of-the-authors-of-the-south-east-economic-monitor-has-expressed-concern-about-the-quality-of-jobs-in-the-region/

The South East Economic Monitor 2019 shows that the South East economy is now growing again, albeit at a much slower rate that the rest of the country, after a very difficult 2017/8.
The report, now in its fourth annual edition, aspires to present a selection of key economic indicators for the South East region, to aid understanding and inform decision making and is prepared by independent, non-politically affiliated academics.

According to one of the report’s authors, Dr Ray Griffin, “it is a relief to see the mild reversal of fortunes with an increase in employment of 3.3% and other sentiments measures which are now positive.”
“The contraction of 2017/8 was not a blip. With the investment programme for Ireland 2040 now being visible it is clear that Dublin, with 28% of the population is to receive 64.2% of the exchequer funding into major infrastructure investments between 2018-22. With 8.86% of the population living in the South East, just 0.56% of funding for major projects will come to the region suggesting the region’s economic malaise will continue indefinitely,” he adds.

Of great concern is that of significant capital projects (>€20m) identified by the Department of Public Expenditure, a mere 0.6% is earmarked for the South East. Even adding back in the two Wexford Motorway PPP schemes this only rises to 2.9% of the 2018-2022 investment programme. Commenting on the figures, one of the report’s authors, Dr Ray Griffin, said that “it is almost inevitable that the region will be left further behind and the figures suggest that the government’s regional development strategy is predominantly rhetoric.”

Worth a read of the entire pdf

http://www.senser.ie/

http://www.senser.ie/resources/South_East_Economic_Monitor_2019.pdf

razorronan · 31-07-2019 09:04AM

This is the 4th year of the report. It continues in the same mould as the previous 3 reports as being way too negative. I don't dispute all that's in it, but if I'm a company looking to invest in the South East and I read that report, I'd be locating elsewhere.

Contrast this to the Ireland South East Development Office recent report (link below) which focuses on the positives the South East has to offer. It's the glass half full/half empty view. I don't see how the South East Economic Monitor 2019 achieves anything for the South East rather than negative publicity.

https://irelandsoutheast.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/South-East-Ireland-At-A-Glance-Summer-2019-INT.SM_.pdf

Harry Palmr · 31-07-2019 09:46AM

Happy clappy is essentially fake news

azimuth17 · 31-07-2019 10:05AM

razorronan wrote: »

This is the 4th year of the report. It continues in the same mould as the previous 3 reports as being way too negative. I don't dispute all that's in it, but if I'm a company looking to invest in the South East and I read that report, I'd be locating elsewhere.

Contrast this to the Ireland South East Development Office recent report (link below) which focuses on the positives the South East has to offer. It's the glass half full/half empty view. I don't see how the South East Economic Monitor 2019 achieves anything for the South East rather than negative publicity.

I agree about the positivity, but how can a report which is based entirely on government statistics be negative to incoming business? I would expect that they would have their own analysis done and make a decision on that basis? In any event the report in the Irish Times today makes grim reading. "Wages in south east half of national average".

BBM77 · 31-07-2019 10:10AM

razorronan wrote: »

This is the 4th year of the report. It continues in the same mould as the previous 3 reports as being way too negative. I don't dispute all that's in it, but if I'm a company looking to invest in the South East and I read that report, I'd be locating elsewhere.

Contrast this to the Ireland South East Development Office recent report (link below) which focuses on the positives the South East has to offer. It's the glass half full/half empty view. I don't see how the South East Economic Monitor 2019 achieves anything for the South East rather than negative publicity.

https://irelandsoutheast.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/South-East-Ireland-At-A-Glance-Summer-2019-INT.SM_.pdf

The south east is being shafted in terms of government funding, people need to be able to see this warts and all. For god sake 0.5% of government infrastructure spending will be in the south east over the next few years even though it has around 9% of the population of the country, I mean the unfairness is breath-taking.

Johnboy1951 · 31-07-2019 12:14PM

razorronan wrote: »

This is the 4th year of the report. It continues in the same mould as the previous 3 reports as being way too negative. I don't dispute all that's in it, but if I'm a company looking to invest in the South East and I read that report, I'd be locating elsewhere.

Contrast this to the Ireland South East Development Office recent report (link below) which focuses on the positives the South East has to offer. It's the glass half full/half empty view. I don't see how the South East Economic Monitor 2019 achieves anything for the South East rather than negative publicity.

Without it we would get only one side of the story ..... the official one which is 'coloured' by politics.

Unless of course you believe that we should not have information such as the dismal plans for investment in the South East region ......

vriesmays · 31-07-2019 04:06PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/workers-in-ireland-s-southeast-earn-just-over-half-the-national-average-survey-finds-1.3972351

invara · 31-07-2019 10:32PM

I am one of the author's of the monitor. We follow the data and if the report is negative it is because the data is. Three academics (working as independent a-political researchers) do not change the economy by force of their words, no more than weather forecasters make the weather. We prepare our work to a high standard, we have it peer-reviewed, we respond openly and honestly on our method and we are quick to publicly accept any errors and changes in what is a data-rich complex body of work. We have also had our work scrutinised by agencies, economists and politicians, including many who find our work against their interests and as a body of work it has broadly stood up as measured, accurate and factually based.

In our work we aspire to support and encourage the marketing and enterprise development agencies in the region (IDA, EI, LEOs, APJ-dev office etc...) and I can understand how hurtful the poor outturns are to the people working every day to sell and promote the region. But somewhere, our region's decision-makers need the actual data on how the economy is doing, they also need to grow their literacy with the data so that they can focus on things that move the needle and improve the quality of debate and decision-making. But I equally understand that we should not be the only voice in the conversation, indeed we should be heard from only once in a while and so the truthy-negativity of where our economy is, needs to be balanced by positive, optimistic commentary on the great things that are happening. We have strong leadership in the region, generating game-changing plans, but we cannot kid ourselves about the scale of the challenge of getting this economy firing on all cylinders for our society, our communities and our families.

razorronan · 01-08-2019 09:05AM

I agree about the positivity, but how can a report which is based entirely on government statistics be negative to incoming business? I would expect that they would have their own analysis done and make a decision on that basis? In any event the report in the Irish Times today makes grim reading. "Wages in south east half of national average".

Makes Grim reading alright, but inaccurate. CSO 2019 figures say that total income per person in the South East was 90% of the national average (€24,571 versus €27,165).

Why are Falcon Real Estate investing in the North Quays. They are looking at figures too but, they are looking at the potential of a region. Population of Waterford actually grew despite being one of the hardest hit in the recession. Average Incomes in the region are growing. The South East is a great place to live, houses are cheap compared to other counties, you have beaches, moutains etc. If reports would focus a bit more on the positives we might get some positive headlines in the National Media rather than "Wages in south east half of national average"

Johnboy1951 · 01-08-2019 09:09AM

invara wrote:

But somewhere, our region's decision-makers need the actual data on how the economy is doing, they also need to grow their literacy with the data so that they can focus on things that move the needle and improve the quality of debate and decision-making.

I do so like that turn of phrase

Nice post and very welcome.

Wanderer78 · 01-08-2019 09:14AM

razorronan wrote:

Why are Falcon Real Estate investing in the North Quays. They are looking at figures too but, they are looking at the potential of a region. Population of Waterford actually grew despite being one of the hardest hit in the recession. Average Incomes in the region are growing. The South East is a great place to live, houses are cheap compared to other counties, you have beaches, moutains etc. If reports would focus a bit more on the positives we might get some positive headlines in the National Media rather than "Wages in south east half of national average"

Groups such as falcon would invest for many different reasons such as our favourable corporate tax incentives etc, our economy is very well set up for extractive sectors such as real estate

vriesmays · 01-08-2019 03:51PM

That doesn't explain why they're risking investing in Waterford.

Johnboy1951 · 01-08-2019 04:18PM

vriesmays wrote: »

That doesn't explain why they're risking investing in Waterford.

You expect someone on Boards to explain to you how Falcon decide on their investments?

Why don't you ask Falcon ...... they surely know how they make these decisions!

vriesmays · 01-08-2019 04:27PM

It's because Waterford's got the highest rate for minimum-wage jobs, the highest rate of single parents, the highest rate of treated addicts, is a city of sanctuary for refugees, has the Spraoi and John Halligan.

Johnboy1951 · 01-08-2019 04:29PM

vriesmays wrote: »

It's because Waterford's got the highest rate for minimum-wage jobs, the highest rate of single parents, the highest rate of treated addicts, is a city of sanctuary for refugees, has the Spraoi and John Halligan.

That is one of the most trollish comments I have seen posted.

Not biting!

vriesmays · 01-08-2019 04:30PM

100% accurate.

Johnboy1951 · 01-08-2019 04:32PM

vriesmays wrote: »

100% accurate.

Still not biting!

Bards · 01-08-2019 06:58PM

invara wrote: »

I am one of the author's of the monitor. We follow the data and if the report is negative it is because the data is. Three academics (working as independent a-political researchers) do not change the economy by force of their words, no more than weather forecasters make the weather. We prepare our work to a high standard, we have it peer-reviewed, we respond openly and honestly on our method and we are quick to publicly accept any errors and changes in what is a data-rich complex body of work. We have also had our work scrutinised by agencies, economists and politicians, including many who find our work against their interests and as a body of work it has broadly stood up as measured, accurate and factually based.

In our work we aspire to support and encourage the marketing and enterprise development agencies in the region (IDA, EI, LEOs, APJ-dev office etc...) and I can understand how hurtful the poor outturns are to the people working every day to sell and promote the region. But somewhere, our region's decision-makers need the actual data on how the economy is doing, they also need to grow their literacy with the data so that they can focus on things that move the needle and improve the quality of debate and decision-making. But I equally understand that we should not be the only voice in the conversation, indeed we should be heard from only once in a while and so the truthy-negativity of where our economy is, needs to be balanced by positive, optimistic commentary on the great things that are happening. We have strong leadership in the region, generating game-changing plans, but we cannot kid ourselves about the scale of the challenge of getting this economy firing on all cylinders for our society, our communities and our families.

Would love to know if they SE voted to become an independent principality but still remain Irish and in the EU aka Monaco would we be able to sustain ourselves. What is the difference between expenditure and income on a macro economic level.

If we are in surplus and we give more to the state coffers than we receive in state transfers then I believe it is something we the people of the SE need to give serious thought to

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