Waterford developments

spaceCreated

Sounds like somewhere great for watching matches and having a few drinks and bit of food on a weekend. Definitely wont appeal to everyone but for those it does it sounds great. Hopefully it wont close down before it gets going.

AdMMM

It's a city centre location, with a great menu of what should be great tasting and convenient food. I'm sure there will be a family element to it because live sports will only get you so far with keeping busy! Hope it does very well!

JourneyMan8

friendlyfun wrote: »

Wouldnt mind another Mexican food place in Waterford tbh. We have a load of asian fusion/street food places but only two Mexican places and only one of them just does Burritos more or less.

yeah the lack of options here is really annoying, coming back here from living in cork city has me looking at just eat depressed lol, hopefully this place does well and others can take a chance on other new ventures.

Gardner

Another company added to the Causeway Group and another company not to support due to it's owners actions.

Wanderer78

Gardner wrote:

Another company added to the Causeway Group and another company not to support due to it's owners actions.

What's the craic?

Harry Palmr

Just going to take this thread a different direction - there's going to be around a 1000 new housing units added to the south east of the city over the next two or three years and I'm not aware of any supporting road or education infrastructure being added. I've only put in the rough areas that I know of (plus ? for Paddocks which I bet is appealed or resubmitted successfully at some point) so might have not included some builds.



As anyone who lives on the Williamstown/Dunmore roads area knows all the senior school traffic has no choice but to filter down two roads which are congested to feck due to other demands like UHW stuff, commuting to the factories, estates in the west of the city and usual traffic into the centre and crossing the bridge.

So isn't it time for someone to speak up for the development of a major secondary school in the area so that if nothing else it means round trips of up to 45-50 minutes can be reduced greatly. The logical spot would be on the ring road at the airport roundabout, the area I marked out is roughly the same as the Ursuline school on upper Ballytruckle.

gscully

I've been saying the same about a secondary school being needed badly for the Dunmore Rd area, but I wouldn't go with a location on the ORR like that. I think it might attract the same unwanted attention as the school in Carrickpherish. There is land opposite Ballygunner school beside Havenwood that could incorporate the Gael Colaiste.

smellyoldboot

It's actually ridiculous the way we allow houses to be built in this country with plans for no other supporting infrastructure or community buildings. Just houses. And this gets approved for planning every time. Bizarre.

The latest move throughout Europe is toward a "15 minute city" everything you need , shops, cafes schools etc should be available within 15 mins walk or cycle from your home. The Germans to my knowledge do not allow for purely residential development, there must be an entire village like set up with bakeries, supermarkets schools etc.

Meanwhile in another 50 years time our grandchildren will be still lamenting the lack of forward thinking present in all decisions in this country.

Harry Palmr

Who are the councillors for that part of town?

Azatadine

gscully wrote: »

I've been saying the same about a secondary school being needed badly for the Dunmore Rd area, but I wouldn't go with a location on the ORR like that. I think it might attract the same unwanted attention as the school in Carrickpherish. There is land opposite Ballygunner school beside Havenwood that could incorporate the Gael Colaiste.

In fairness, the school in Carrickphierrish is a very well maintained facility and a very good school. The problem is what's up the road from it.

aziz

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Who are the councillors for that part of town?

The ones getting brown envelopes

Hoffmans

Gardner wrote: »

Another company added to the Causeway Group and another company not to support due to it's owners actions.

But its owners are in the usa on the other hand the rent inflation in town reeks of the claws from a vulture fund....

Yellow_Fern

Hoffmans wrote: »

But its owners are in the usa on the other hand the rent inflation in town reeks of the claws from a vulture fund....

Vulture funds don't practise landlordism. Do you mean a REIT?

gscully

Azatadine wrote: »

In fairness, the school in Carrickphierrish is a very well maintained facility and a very good school. The problem is what's up the road from it.

That's my point.

hardybuck

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Who are the councillors for that part of town?

Would it fall into Waterford City West/Tramore? That'd be Joe Conway (Ind), Jim Griffin (SF), Susan Gallagher (GP), Joe Kelly (Ind), Lola O'Sullivan (FG) and Eamon Quinlan (FF).

BBM77

smellyoldboot wrote: »

It's actually ridiculous the way we allow houses to be built in this country with plans for no other supporting infrastructure or community buildings. Just houses. And this gets approved for planning every time. Bizarre.

The latest move throughout Europe is toward a "15 minute city" everything you need , shops, cafes schools etc should be available within 15 mins walk or cycle from your home. The Germans to my knowledge do not allow for purely residential development, there must be an entire village like set up with bakeries, supermarkets schools etc.

Meanwhile in another 50 years time our grandchildren will be still lamenting the lack of forward thinking present in all decisions in this country.

That is the most annoying thing about what has happened on the Carrickphierish rd. They built a new road with cycle lanes and footpaths then a school. To open the area for development. Then put a halting site right in the middle, I’m even afraid to cycle or walk that road now.

friendlyfun

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Who are the councillors for that part of town?

Dunmore Road/Williamstown would be in Waterford City East.

Adam Wyse(FF), Davy Daniels (Ind)Jody Power (Green), Eddie Mulligan(FF) and Mary Roche (Ind) and Pat Fitzgerald (SF).

Asdfgh2020

BBM77 wrote: »

That is the most annoying thing about what has happened on the Carrickphierish rd. They built a new road with cycle lanes and footpaths then a school. To open the area for development. Then put a halting site right in the middle, I’m even afraid to cycle or walk that road now.

I wonder what the number of reported assaults/mugging/robberies of pedestrian/ cyclists etc have been....?

Muttley79

Waterford city site with scope for more than 300 homes for €3.25m (via @IrishTimes) https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/waterford-city-site-with-scope-for-more-than-300-homes-for-3-25m-1.4377890
Completely unsustainable on an already very busy Williamstown road.surely a relief road would have to be built to ease congestion already there if over 300 houses got the green light

Dum_Dum

Muttley79 wrote: »

Waterford city site with scope for more than 300 homes for €3.25m (via @IrishTimes) https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/waterford-city-site-with-scope-for-more-than-300-homes-for-3-25m-1.4377890
Completely unsustainable on an already very busy Williamstown road.surely a relief road would have to be built to ease congestion already there if over 300 houses got the green light

Lots of planned development in this town - all in the wrong place. Waterford becomes a suburb of the Dunmore Road.


East Waterford is poorly accessible too - hemmed in by the river, the estuary and the sea. This means all outbound traffic flows are westbound leading the choke points along the Dunmore and Williamstown Roads.

Harry Palmr

So then they got the pp through. Disastrous decision given the shortfall of infrastructure. Again, the school, the roads not considered.

Wanderer78

Harry Palmr wrote:

So then they got the pp through. Disastrous decision given the shortfall of infrastructure. Again, the school, the roads not considered.

Critical infrastructural needs are someone else's problem, build, build, build......

Harry Palmr

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Critical infrastructural needs are someone else's problem, build, build, build......

The laws have to change, no pp until the supporting infrastructure is also accounted for.

Harry Palmr

The bold Ray Griffin in the examiner

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40066218.html

"Capital spending will hit €10bn this year, and again we have only heard of some titillating projects largely in Cork and Dublin. The southeast is 8.89% of this country’s population, but we are certainly not going to get the €890m that would represent a fair share. My guess is that we will get less than €100m in this region,"

"Next year the Department of Higher Education will spend €3.3bn, mostly in universities. €5.2bn will be spent at the Department of Housing, again with no visibility on whether the southeast will get €462m."

JohnC.

Noticed a planning notice up on the old Alfie Hales sports shop in Arundel Square. To divide it into two units and for one of them to be a cafe.

friendlyfun

Muttley79 wrote: »

Waterford city site with scope for more than 300 homes for €3.25m (via @IrishTimes) https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/waterford-city-site-with-scope-for-more-than-300-homes-for-3-25m-1.4377890
Completely unsustainable on an already very busy Williamstown road.surely a relief road would have to be built to ease congestion already there if over 300 houses got the green light

We need housing.

Harry Palmr

In the right places! On the end of the Williamstown road peninsula is in fact as about a wrong a location as possible.

Wanderer78

place should be flooded with accommodation, if the hq's gets going

Deisekickboxing

JohnC. wrote: »

Noticed a planning notice up on the old Alfie Hales sports shop in Arundel Square. To divide it into two units and for one of them to be a cafe.

Waterford is turning into one horse coffee shop town

smellyoldboot

Harry Palmr wrote: »

In the right places! On the end of the Williamstown road peninsula is in fact as about a wrong a location as possible.

To be fair nobody is going to want to build on the other side of town with the councils concerted effort to turn it into knackeragua. Expect any new private housing to be squashed into the general Dunmore Road area for the foreseeable.

friendlyfun

Deisekickboxing wrote: »

Waterford is turning into one horse coffee shop town

The city centre is lacking any sort of charm. A pity, really. Arundel square is fairly desperate in general.

Dum_Dum

smellyoldboot wrote: »

To be fair nobody is going to want to build on the other side of town with the councils concerted effort to turn it into knackeragua. Expect any new private housing to be squashed into the general Dunmore Road area for the foreseeable.

Somebody remind the council that the multi-million euro road infrastructure is to the west of the City. Would they consider it's more sensible to move along the protected species rather than start begging central government for road money for the east of the city in 10 years.

Yellow_Fern

friendlyfun wrote: »

We need housing.

Houses maketh the city. It has to be done right.

Muttley79

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/10/27/work-to-commence-on-kilmac-distillery-in-2021/
Great development here for kilmacthomas and hopefully a great success

Muttley79

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/10/28/a-new-lease-of-life-for-former-little-sisters-building/
Great news also for the city with some new lease of life in the old convent.

spaceCreated

Deisekickboxing wrote: »

Waterford is turning into one horse coffee shop town

I was thinking the same, but fek it... if we get known for good coffee its something at least. You'd be surprised how many people would push a close relation down the stair for their coffee fix. We need something that the place is known for now that the Crystal is all but gone. Having a vipers den of amazing coffee shops is a good start.

vriesmays

Waterford is known for a triangle where most of its residents aren't descended from vikings.

spaceCreated

vriesmays wrote: »

Waterford is known for a triangle where most of its residents aren't descended from vikings.

Wow... hilarious... you showed... me? ...people from Waterford?

Deiseen

spaceCreated wrote: »

Wow... hilarious... you showed... me? ...people from Waterford?

Please just mute him and don't respond to his rubbish.

smellyoldboot

Deiseen wrote: »

Please just mute him and don't respond to his rubbish.

The ignore/mute button has to be the most snowflake action ever. "Echo chambers are my safe space".

vriesmays

Snowflakes are now offended because they didn't realise the Viking triangle is majority non-Irish.

JimWinters

vriesmays wrote: »

Snowflakes are now offended because they didn't realise the Viking triangle is majority non-Irish.

Sure the Vikings weren’t Irish! Also, I was in the Apple Market last week, didn’t see one apple :O While you’re at it you might go on the Galway City forum and they’ll them how few Latinos are in their Latin Quarter Quarter...

Harry Palmr

vriesmays is a racist/xenophobe and should be dealt with.

Deiseen

smellyoldboot wrote: »

The ignore/mute button has to be the most snowflake action ever. "Echo chambers are my safe space".

I'm always happy to hear opposing views but I've been listening to absolute garbage out of that guy ever since he was known on here as 'TheQuietFella'.

In all that time, he never made a single, decent or intelligent point and derailed topics constantly.

I didn't mute him on a whim one day because he said one thing that I didn't like, it was made due to the relentless rubbish that I'd read over the years.

Wanderer2010

The only way to deal with him or her or it is to not reply. Simply not reply. Problem solved. But there are too many here who love the noise of the argument, however pathetic, to do that.

Deiseen

Harry Palmr wrote: »

vriesmays is a racist/xenophobe and should be dealt with.

Not just that but he's never made a single decent contribution, ever.

Even hatemongers have the ocassional good argument now and again, but Vriesmays hasn't in all the time I've been here.

Deiseen

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

The only way to deal with him or her or it is to not reply. Simply not reply. Problem solved. But there are too many here who love the noise of the argument, however pathetic, to do that.

I guess it's people that are not on here too often so they might not know him, or what he's like.

spaceCreated

vriesmays wrote: »

Snowflakes are now offended because they didn't realise the Viking triangle is majority non-Irish.

You're right it has clear influences from non-non-Irish.

spaceCreated

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

The only way to deal with him or her or it is to not reply. Simply not reply. Problem solved. But there are too many here who love the noise of the argument, however pathetic, to do that.

I reckon its really 'how do' when hes sober.

Wanderer78

spaceCreated wrote:

I reckon its really 'how do' when hes sober.

Michael is far more intelligent and respectful than that