Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

Very disappointed with Marvel this outing, they were doing so well avoiding all the woke culture trappings that Hollywood have being pursuing since 2016 but alas it was just a matter of time before that ideology started to affect the movies, the comics have been a lost cause for a hell of a long time.

It was pointed out elsewhere and I know he's a big name to get, but getting Ali to play Blade is basically saying to ignore that he was in Luke Cage, even though Luke Cage is supposedly part of the MCU

In saying what I said I do look forward to seeing what Ali brings to the table as the new blade but hope it will be aimed at an older audience.

CastorTroy wrote: »

I know there was a whole thing with James Gunn but I'm surprised GotG3 isn't in these plans yet.
So giving a break until May.

Gunn said it wasn’t announced because he is still doing Suicide Squad first so it will be at 4 years before we see it probably closer to 5 years 2022 or 2023 release is my guess for GotG 3.

I’m guessing Disney don’t want to draw any eyes on the competition.

I do wonder how they're going to handle vampires and mutants.

I really don't see it working to have Professor X and co having been living secretly as mutants since whenever. Despite at least half of them being garbage, I did quite like the X-Men Universe. It felt self-contained. It'll be interesting to see how they handle stuffing it into the MCU.

It seemed like they might manage it with inhumans, but as far as I know they've detached Agents of SHIELD from the MCU, and the Inhumans fiasco itself is the darkest chapter in Marvel's film history - **** knows how that car crash came to be.

Some sort of radiation from the snap seems like the best bet, or some other external force that only created them recently. I don't think there's any naturally occurring superheroes in the MCU. They're mostly tech or failed lab experiements. I guess Black Panther has that magical bush but that's tied to a big mountain of magical space metal that only exists in Wakanda. Having a bunch of them sprout out of the ground all of a sudden will be stupid.

And vampires will be even worse. Making them basically a type of mutant that go out of control might be a good way to kill two birds with one stone and set up some interesting crossovers.

CastorTroy wrote: »

Yeah, Dr Strange having Multiverse in the title could be a thing. Be a few years anyway. And notice Kevin Feige said mutants and not specifically X-Men. I know there are more mutants than the X-Men but still

He said in an interview afterwards that they're useing x-men and mutants interchangably and that they'll attack x-men in a different way than we've seen so far. I'm standing by my thinking that mutants will start to appear in the sequels that haven't been set a date yet and it will build towards an x-men movie. I just don't see them having either a) a seperate multiverse with mutants or b) some multiverse crossing event that suddently means the MCU we know is full of mutants.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

They could use those who returned from the Blip as Mutants.


Some of those who returned from the Blip start to develop Mutant powers would be how I would do it.

Yeah, I could see that being a route or the general power of the inifinity stones being used on earth twice in a relatively short perod has side effects on the population in creating more mutants than there were historically, like they used nuclear weapons use previously. They've somewhat teed it up by highlighting in Endgame the energy burst that the infinity stones caused.

It would allow them to have older mutants like Prof X or Magneto but then a lot of young mutants who are newly dealing with their powers

Agent Coulson wrote: »

They could use those who returned from the Blip as Mutants.


Some of those who returned from the Blip start to develop Mutant powers would be how I would do it.

Heard it here first. That's a great idea and most importantly a simple to get-across idea!

Can we blame Professor Hulk? Is he gonna be Mutant Zero? or just his wish?

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Very disappointed with Marvel this outing, they were doing so well avoiding all the woke culture trappings that Hollywood have being pursuing since 2016 but alas it was just a matter of time before that ideology started to affect the movies, the comics have been a lost cause for a hell of a long time.

It's either going to be really good and they use the new Thor as a plot point and addition or it's going to be fairly bad

I think for the generation 1 of the MCU we had our ending anything after that is a film by film basis and if they make a bad film filled with telling one part of the audience they are bad then things will not go well for them.

One thing I do know is Disney will not kill the golden goose and if things take a downward trajectory heads will roll.

CastorTroy wrote: »

It was pointed out elsewhere and I know he's a big name to get, but getting Ali to play Blade is basically saying to ignore that he was in Luke Cage, even though Luke Cage is supposedly part of the MCU

Let's not forget that Peter Quills mother played a previous role as a Captain America fan in the 1940s, and Alfre Woodard was in both Civil War and Luke Cage as different characters so double jobbing isn't new in the MCU.

Sparko wrote: »

Let's not forget that Peter Quills mother played a previous role as a Captain America fan in the 1940s, and Alfre Woodard was in both Civil War and Luke Cage as different characters so double jobbing isn't new in the MCU.

That was Peter Quill's grandmother in Captain America according to James Gunn

Mr E wrote: »

Black Panther 2, Guardians of the Galaxy 3, Fantastic Four, Captain Marvel 2 and Mutants will all be released during Phase 4 too.

I'm guessing they are a part of Phase 5.

Looking forward to everything that was announced and a lot has me curious, like :-

how is Jane Foster worthy of Mjölnir?
I know nothing about the Eternals or Shang-Chi
just how weird is WandaVision going to get?
will we be getting a new take on vampires for the MCU

and most importantly where is Spider-Man 3?:eek:

In regards to Mutants, wasn't Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver referred to as "Gifted" in Age of Ultron (or in the end-credit scene of a previous film) and the Hydra experiment enhanced something that was already there? Or did Hydra create the powers?

Some people are suggesting that the Blip creates mutants but that would means 50% of the human race, if not the universe, gets powers. Mutants need to a minority or else they could simply take over. They could already exist and the like of Professor X have been helping keep them secret but in the wake the Snap decides to form the X-Men to help introduce them to the world. However, I don't see how the can fit the idea f Mutants being hated, feared and hunted in a world that praised the Avengers and if the returned are mutants then everyone will know it. The only thing I can think of to make the world fear or distrust them is for the MCU to use an event like the one that caused the Civil War in comics - that a mutant or mutants accidentally cause a massive, devastating tragedy and things spiral out of control.

Although as I type I remember mention of Kree sleeper cells in Far from Home. The Kree are the creators of Inhumans in Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. so maybe the Kree agents on Earth have been tinkering with people's DNA ?

irish_stevo815 wrote: »

Cant help thinking that WandaVision and Doctor Strange 2 could be an adaption of House of M which could be used introduce mutants and Xmen.

Could the title Multiverse of Madness be a red herring perhaps - a la Serpant Society/Civil War?

Why do you think it is not the title?

Feige's Captain America: Serpent Society was intended as a humorous misdirection because so many people were saying Cap 3 would be Civil War so he was just having some fun. No reason why "In the Mutliverse of Madness" would not be the title and that title does mean it can't introduce Mutants. I think it is simply a homage to "In the Mouth of Madness" seeing as it is going to be a horror film and the director has an interest and background in that genre.

EDIT: I hope Mutants are not brought to Earth all of sudden from another dimension. Or maybe the intention is that the world of the X-Men will be a different dimension where there are no Avengers, etc. - hence why people with powers are badly treated - and the X-men movies will take place somewhere else in the multiverse ?

LazySamaritan wrote: »

irish_stevo815 wrote: »

Cant help thinking that WandaVision and Doctor Strange 2 could be an adaption of House of M which could be used introduce mutants and Xmen.

Could the title Multiverse of Madness be a red herring perhaps - a la Serpant Society/Civil War?

Why do you think it is not the title?

No reason really, just a thought. I actually love the title of it but would be an interesting way to hide the fact that a House of M story is currently in progress