Travellers Taking over Carrickpherrish Road.

Azatadine · 07-07-2019 5:02pm #1

What's the story with those travellers taking over the entire road and sidewalks up Carrickpherrish road? They've even put a load of clothes lines hanging between the trees along the sidewalk. Multiple caravans on the sidewalks, dirty rubbish strewn all over the place. Another crowd (or maybe the same crowd) have put a big mobile home in there too.

Whoever thought that putting that crowd close to the likes of Genzyme, the Gaeilscoil, now close to West Pharma as well, was a good idea must be off their rocker.

Sonny noggs · 07-07-2019 5:04pm

Don’t be blaming the travellers for the rubbish. Everyone knows it was the Amish.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 07-07-2019 5:05pm

Should have voted Peter Casey

Azatadine · 07-07-2019 5:07pm

Its scandalous. Beyond filthy. I'm sure the likes of West and Genzyme often send their US visitors for a nice stroll up by that filthy crowd......

The kids sometimes rock on down to the Gaeilscoil to throw a few stones I hear too. I cannot get my head around how they get away with what they get away with at all.

I must go out the front of my house and connect a few washing lines to my neighbours trees by the side of the road to hang my washing.....like hell....

aziz · 07-07-2019 5:15pm

And the Gardai will do FA about it,too busy at the moment to make sure the nightclubs are closed at 2am

Wanderer2010 · 07-07-2019 5:57pm

There is no place really to home them that isn't affecting someone, be it a pub, a housing estate or a school. So as close as they are to Genzyme and West, they are still a decent distance away from them and as far as I know they haven't caused any issues with those places but I feel very sorry for anyone living nearby and the people dropping off and collecting kids from the school.

This might sound brutal and cynical but I suspect they are allowed to stay there because the nearby estates have a bit of a bad name to them anyway so the attitude is "sure what harm are a few more travellers?". That way the Guards wash their hands of them. If they were to set up somewhere on the Dunmore Road, you can be sure they would be moved on quickly.

touts · 07-07-2019 6:03pm

Azatadine wrote: »

Its scandalous. Beyond filthy. I'm sure the likes of West and Genzyme often send their US visitors for a nice stroll up by that filthy crowd......

That's the scam. They'll move on when someone pays them a few grand.

Only answer is to outlaw temporary dewellings outside of designated areas such as caravan parks or halting sites. Then seize and destroy a few dozen illegal caravans and they will quickly get the message. The liberal media will go ballistic but fortunately there are increasing signs that the political mood is changing so I'd be hopeful we'll finally see a solution to this scurge within a couple of elections.

LuasSimon · 07-07-2019 6:08pm

touts wrote: »

That's the scam. They'll move on when someone pays them a few grand.

Only answer is to outlaw temporary dewellings outside of designated areas such as caravan parks or halting sites. Then seize and destroy a few dozen illegal caravans and they will quickly get the message. The liberal media will go ballistic but fortunately there are increasing signs that the political mood is changing so I'd be hopeful we'll finally see a solution to this scurge within a couple of elections.

This carry on is going on all over the country not just Waterford . They seem to be able to do what they want !

Sonny noggs · 07-07-2019 6:14pm

aziz wrote: »

And the Gardai will do FA about it,too busy at the moment to make sure the nightclubs are closed at 2am

The Gardai have seen how the courts deal with them, suspended sentences for lads with 50 plus convictions, so why bother?

Wanderer2010 · 07-07-2019 6:16pm

Sonny noggs wrote: »

The Gardai have seen how the courts deal with them, suspended sentences for lads with 50 plus convictions, so why bother?

Travellers set up home next to Judge Head in The Clouds...then we would see change.

FFred · 07-07-2019 6:16pm

I frequent the library there sometimes and the youngsters cause a fair bit of hassle for the librarians.

aaaaaaaahhhhhh · 07-07-2019 6:22pm

Azatadine wrote: »

Whoever thought that putting that crowd close to the likes of Genzyme, the Gaeilscoil, now close to West Pharma as well, was a good idea must be off their rocker.

Its the Horses they own up there that I feel for TBH, and i'm no environmentalist.

Stupid kids(travelers or maybe not) kicking footballs at them, throwing stones at them etc etc etc. And the SPCA will do FA about that to.

Azatadine · 07-07-2019 7:26pm

They drive in and out of that hellhole without any due care and attention to anything else on the road as well. No indicators. Nothing. They own the road.....

jimbojazz · 07-07-2019 8:19pm

Shur ets dur culchur

Quigs Snr · 07-07-2019 8:57pm

Lot of hate crime on here goys.

You should y'know engage in some meaningful dialogue to resolve the matter to all parties satisfaction....

.... says no one ever except right on lefties from affluent suburbs nowhere near a halting side, or some Pavee Point representative who should really be considered for the position of Donald Trumps Whitehouse press secretary.

Suck it up lads and lassies, or just give up and move out like I did.

Stopitwillya · 07-07-2019 11:01pm

I feel sorry for the poor people who paid over €200k for a house in Mount Suir up on that road. Let down by the builder and ends up as a ghost estate and then to have that crowd placed on your doorstep.

StringerBell · 07-07-2019 11:01pm

Yeah I couldn't believe it over the last few months, my little lad is in Educate Together which is a brilliant school. Passing there regularly and seeing them sprawl all over the place up there is surreal. One had gone in opposite where the main site is but did get moved on after a few weeks.

The ones who went in and just put up a "chalet" in behind the walls at the back of that new housing estate take the biscuit. Imagine having bought a house there and turning up to find that hanging over your back wall?

I'm not exactly right wing on many subjects, but from a life of dealing with them, many of them, on a regular basis I see no benefit to them at all. They contribute nothing to society and would be first on the forced sterilization list if it was up to me!

Obviously that isn't the answer realistically either but its very hard to know how to bridge the gap and encourage them to become decent members of society. They procreate at an alarming rate and I can guarantee you that if they were to ever be in the majority in a country instead of an "ethnic minority" you could forget about them respecting your culture.

Stopitwillya · 07-07-2019 11:07pm

StringerBell wrote: »

I'm not exactly right wing on many subjects, but from a life of dealing with them, many of them, on a regular basis I see no benefit to them at all. They contribute nothing to society and would be first on the forced sterilization list if it was up to me!

The first thing is that their dole should be stopped. Not just them but anyone long term unemployed. Let them starve.

And no way should taxpayers be paying for their accommodation.

And our judges should be held to account for leniency (dismissal) against them or any of our other career criminals.

Azatadine · 07-07-2019 11:39pm

Apparently, there was something on the radio during the week about that monstrosity of a mobile home that they put in there at the back of someone's house. There is a court order pending on that. I wont hold my breath.

I suppose they can always move it out onto the sidewalk like the rest of the caravans that take up the sidewalk. Eventually they will just set them up on the road itself. They had burned out cars there a couple of weeks ago but I assume the council just takes them away?

wagtail99 · 08-07-2019 12:55am

Azatadine wrote: »

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I suppose they can always move it out onto the sidewalk like the rest of the caravans that take up the sidewalk. Eventually they will just set them up on the road itself. They had burned out cars there a couple of weeks ago but I assume the council just takes them away?

The word is footpaths in Ireland, although tgey are also sometimes referred to as pavements on this side of the Atlantic.

Wanderer78 · 08-07-2019 7:41am

SteelyDanJalapeno wrote:

Should have voted Peter Casey

He's a fcuking scumbag

Stopitwillya wrote:

The first thing is that their dole should be stopped. Not just them but anyone long term unemployed. Let them starve.

Yea that would solve it, ffs!

jimbojazz · 08-07-2019 9:34am

Careful now, or we'll have John Connors on here moaning about how they are interpreted by the general public, and how they are misunderstood, prejudiced and how they are law abiding citizens, blahdidblah.

Azatadine · 08-07-2019 9:57am

The blatant disregard with how they treat the thing site and environs tells it's own story. Dirty hellhole.

Deiseen · 08-07-2019 10:27am

If I lived up there I would refuse to pay my LPT until the situation is resolved.

Surely the residents have set up a group? Lobbied local/national politicians.

I feel really sorry for them as these guys are absolutely untouchable. Looks so bad for Waterford with where they are currently set up.

Azatadine · 08-07-2019 11:09am

Deiseen wrote: »

If I lived up there I would refuse to pay my LPT until the situation is resolved.

Surely the residents have set up a group? Lobbied local/national politicians.

I feel really sorry for them as these guys are absolutely untouchable. Looks so bad for Waterford with where they are currently set up.

Yeah, it looks terrible for anybody entering via that side of the city.

BBM77 · 08-07-2019 12:28pm

Deiseen wrote: »

If I lived up there I would refuse to pay my LPT until the situation is resolved.

Surely the residents have set up a group? Lobbied local/national politicians.

I feel really sorry for them as these guys are absolutely untouchable. Looks so bad for Waterford with where they are currently set up.

I am hearing the same thing from people living in Kilkenny, of a halting site in town like a refugee camp, making the area look bad etc. It is not a Waterford problem it is a national problem.

I do think a harder stance needs to be taken with travellers. The local/national government need to stand up to them.

Always thought the Carrickpherrish Road was a ridiculous place to put a halting site. I mean building a new road to open up development land then putting a home for <snip> people in the middle of it.

LuasSimon · 08-07-2019 3:47pm

Tasfasdf wrote: »

Your right most of their money is from crime.

Husband and wife both not working plus 8 kids brings in 50k per annum in benefits .
Add in a compensation claim annually your laughing .

Road-Hog · 09-07-2019 3:38am

It’s like a war zone alright up there. Anytime I drop off to the school or activities on a weekEnd I have to ‘dodge the bullets’ almost. Constant harassment , threats and intimidation and that’s only from the 5/6 year olds.

erica74 · 09-07-2019 9:14am

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

There is no place really to home them that isn't affecting someone, be it a pub, a housing estate or a school.

They could always buy their own land and fûck off.

Can anyone explain the concrete slab "walls" erected behind those new houses, which now house that huge mobile home? The slabs look brand new and are expensive, were they legally/illegally erected by the travellers? Or erected by the council?

kayaksurfbum · 09-07-2019 9:58am

These are the people you need to tell about it.

http://www.waterfordcouncil.ie/council/councillors/metropolitan/tramore-watcity-west/index.htm

Two of them living nearby.

Im sure someone here is good with words and could draft a letter that everyone could copy and paste and send to the good Councillors, who im sure are totally oblivious to the situation! They need informing.

Just an idea.

Azatadine · 09-07-2019 10:06am

The council were going to move a bunch of the dirty crowd into the unused bungalow down by the greenway a while back too but word got out beforehand and the refurbishment of the house for them was stopped due to a backlash from local residents around there. Rightly so! Imagine another bunch of them taking over the entrance to the greenway in Bilberry!!!

Motivator · 09-07-2019 8:28pm

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

There is no place really to home them that isn't affecting someone, be it a pub, a housing estate or a school. So as close as they are to Genzyme and West, they are still a decent distance away from them and as far as I know they haven't caused any issues with those places

About 18 months ago the tinkers lit a fire which affected Sanofi. The smoke came in through the vents and rendered product worth a couple of hundred thousand euros completely useless. So yes, they have caused issues up on that road.

JohnC. · 09-07-2019 8:40pm

Is that true? It sounds like a very bad setup in the factory if expensive product can be affected that easily.

Odelay · 09-07-2019 8:45pm

JohnC. wrote: »

Is that true? It sounds like a very bad setup in the factory if expensive product can be affected that easily.

They have to get their air from somewhere, often it is an advantage Ireland has, until someone decides to burn the coating off copper wire that is.

JohnC. · 09-07-2019 8:49pm

Traveller smoke isn't the only pollutant. If they depend on clean air, I'd expect them to have filtering systems in place. This sounds like a made up story. Is there any verification that this actually happened?

Wanderer2010 · 09-07-2019 8:54pm

Motivator wrote: »

About 18 months ago the tinkers lit a fire which affected Sanofi. The smoke came in through the vents and rendered product worth a couple of hundred thousand euros completely useless. So yes, they have caused issues up on that road.

Maybe one of them could get a job in Sanofi in return for not lighting fires on the property..im sure some of them are intelligent degree-having individuals.

Odelay · 09-07-2019 9:33pm

JohnC. wrote: »

Traveller smoke isn't the only pollutant. If they depend on clean air, I'd expect them to have filtering systems in place. This sounds like a made up story. Is there any verification that this actually happened?

Filters aren’t magic. They can only cope with so much.

Wanderer78 · 10-07-2019 5:07am

Wanderer2010 wrote:

Maybe one of them could get a job in Sanofi in return for not lighting fires on the property..im sure some of them are intelligent degree-having individuals.

Funnily enough, having a degree a lot of the time means, you have a good memory, and can retain a lot of information, for it to be regurgitated later, there's nothing wrong with none academic training such as trades, or even low waged jobs. Would anyone actually employ travelers?

Wanderer78 · 10-07-2019 5:26am

Joe Don Dante wrote:

hopefully they'll forget to turn a chip pan off some night in one of they're caravans

There's something wrong with you!

StringerBell · 10-07-2019 8:53am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Wanderer2010 wrote:

Maybe one of them could get a job in Sanofi in return for not lighting fires on the property..im sure some of them are intelligent degree-having individuals.

Funnily enough, having a degree a lot of the time means, you have a good memory, and can retain a lot of information, for it to be regurgitated later, there's nothing wrong with none academic training such as trades, or even low waged jobs. Would anyone actually employ travelers?

I'm in the minority so, I have a degree and a ****e memory

Wanderer78 · 10-07-2019 9:57am

StringerBell wrote:

I'm in the minority so, I have a degree and a ****e memory

Haha same here, and ****e of ****e, add and dyslexia rocks

friendlyfun · 10-07-2019 11:20am

Some of the

friendlyfun · 10-07-2019 3:47pm

Calling for forced sterilisation is a bit far guys don't you think?

robtri · 10-07-2019 8:43pm

erica74 wrote: »

They could always buy their own land and fûck off.

Can anyone explain the concrete slab "walls" erected behind those new houses, which now house that huge mobile home? The slabs look brand new and are expensive, were they legally/illegally erected by the travellers? Or erected by the council?

and dont forget the two english regs cars.... very nice cars at that...
tax avoidance

Azatadine · 10-07-2019 9:24pm

They are breeding like rabbits too. Heaps of kids running around there firing stones. Hopefully all of the surrounding land gets bought and developed so at least they won't be able to keep those poor horses. Although I'd say they'll figure something out.....

What about the burned out cars that appear on the footpath every couple of weeks and then disappear? I presume the council just rock on up and take them away?

Road-Hog · 11-07-2019 10:35am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

There's something wrong with you!

That comment about chip pans is in very very poor taste...

friendlyfun · 11-07-2019 10:43am

Road-Hog wrote: »

That comment about chip pans is in very very poor taste...

Considering a traveller family in Dublin were killed in an incident three years ago because a chip pan its in very poor taste.

I'll probably be called a big PC lefty from the leafy suburbs but you wouldn't wish that on anybody. That comments in this thread are very worrying.

DeadHand · 11-07-2019 1:14pm

friendlyfun wrote: »

Considering a traveller family in Dublin were killed in an incident three years ago because a chip pan its in very poor taste.

I'll probably be called a big PC lefty from the leafy suburbs but you wouldn't wish that on anybody. That comments in this thread are very worrying.

True.

Let’s not forget every Traveller adult on that scene was found to be out of it on various stimulants.

The nearest fire hydrants had been broken down with elements stolen by the same people, hampering the efforts of the emergency services.

The survivors later tried to blame the council and Traveller advocates tried to blame everyone but the people responsible for what transpired, even going as far as calling institutional racism.

The children that died in that incident were killed by the adults present. They were victims of Traveller culture.

While it’s nasty and stupid to hope for a repeat, the incident is an example (along with the issue that is the subject of this thread and the manifold other examples) that has ordinary, law-abiding taxpayers furious with the constant toxic behavior of this massively privileged, protected group.

handlemaster · 11-07-2019 1:32pm

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

There is no place really to home them that isn't affecting someone, be it a pub, a housing estate or a school. So as close as they are to Genzyme and West, they are still a decent distance away from them and as far as I know they haven't caused any issues with those places but I feel very sorry for anyone living nearby and the people dropping off and collecting kids from the school.

This might sound brutal and cynical but I suspect they are allowed to stay there because the nearby estates have a bit of a bad name to them anyway so the attitude is "sure what harm are a few more travellers?". That way the Guards wash their hands of them. If they were to set up somewhere on the Dunmore Road, you can be sure they would be moved on quickly.

How about doing what most people do and rent or buy a house .

Road-Hog · 11-07-2019 1:39pm

DeadHand wrote: »

True.

Let’s not forget every Traveller adult on that scene was found to be out of it on various stimulants.

The nearest fire hydrants had been broken down with elements stolen by the same people, hampering the efforts of the emergency services.

The survivors later tried to blame the council and Traveller advocates tried to blame everyone but the people responsible for what transpired, even going as far as calling institutional racism.

The children that died in that incident were killed by the adults present. They were victims of Traveller culture.

While it’s nasty and stupid to hope for a repeat, the incident is an example (along with the issue that is the subject of this thread and the manifold other examples) that has ordinary, law-abiding taxpayers furious with the constant toxic behavior of this massively privileged, protected group.

Re Your latter comments ie massively privileged protected group....are you being serious......?

There is some serious toxic prejudice views being expressed in the last few contributions.....,,there are plenty of our ‘settled brethren’ whom we could say the same about......boy A and B.......the guy who was arrested last week Re stabbing in Dunmore last year.....travelers won’t be going away any time soon nor will criminal activity be it traveller or ‘settled version’......white South Africans and Americans have managed to ‘deal with’ their minorities without resorting to ‘ethnic cleansing’ so I think us Irish ☘️ will have to also

greenspurs · 11-07-2019 2:47pm

I mentioned sterilising them after the videos of them fighting in John Roberts square a while back...

I would mention it again now...…

"Institutional racism" - yer man from Pavee said that about 5 times in 2 mins on a radio station on Tuesday...

Minority = everyone else is racist.

Travellers Taking over Carrickpherrish Road.

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