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Travellers Taking over Carrickpherrish Road.

Azatadine

What's the story with those travellers taking over the entire road and sidewalks up Carrickpherrish road? They've even put a load of clothes lines hanging between the trees along the sidewalk. Multiple caravans on the sidewalks, dirty rubbish strewn all over the place. Another crowd (or maybe the same crowd) have put a big mobile home in there too.

Whoever thought that putting that crowd close to the likes of Genzyme, the Gaeilscoil, now close to West Pharma as well, was a good idea must be off their rocker.

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Wanderer78

Joe Don Dante wrote:

hopefully they'll forget to turn a chip pan off some night in one of they're caravans

There's something wrong with you!

Wanderer78

Wanderer2010 wrote:

Maybe one of them could get a job in Sanofi in return for not lighting fires on the property..im sure some of them are intelligent degree-having individuals.

Funnily enough, having a degree a lot of the time means, you have a good memory, and can retain a lot of information, for it to be regurgitated later, there's nothing wrong with none academic training such as trades, or even low waged jobs. Would anyone actually employ travelers?

Odelay

JohnC. wrote: »

Traveller smoke isn't the only pollutant. If they depend on clean air, I'd expect them to have filtering systems in place. This sounds like a made up story. Is there any verification that this actually happened?

Filters aren’t magic. They can only cope with so much.

Wanderer2010

Motivator wrote: »

About 18 months ago the tinkers lit a fire which affected Sanofi. The smoke came in through the vents and rendered product worth a couple of hundred thousand euros completely useless. So yes, they have caused issues up on that road.

Maybe one of them could get a job in Sanofi in return for not lighting fires on the property..im sure some of them are intelligent degree-having individuals.

JohnC.

Traveller smoke isn't the only pollutant. If they depend on clean air, I'd expect them to have filtering systems in place. This sounds like a made up story. Is there any verification that this actually happened?

Odelay

JohnC. wrote: »

Is that true? It sounds like a very bad setup in the factory if expensive product can be affected that easily.

They have to get their air from somewhere, often it is an advantage Ireland has, until someone decides to burn the coating off copper wire that is.

JohnC.

Is that true? It sounds like a very bad setup in the factory if expensive product can be affected that easily.

Motivator

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

There is no place really to home them that isn't affecting someone, be it a pub, a housing estate or a school. So as close as they are to Genzyme and West, they are still a decent distance away from them and as far as I know they haven't caused any issues with those places

About 18 months ago the tinkers lit a fire which affected Sanofi. The smoke came in through the vents and rendered product worth a couple of hundred thousand euros completely useless. So yes, they have caused issues up on that road.

Azatadine

The council were going to move a bunch of the dirty crowd into the unused bungalow down by the greenway a while back too but word got out beforehand and the refurbishment of the house for them was stopped due to a backlash from local residents around there. Rightly so! Imagine another bunch of them taking over the entrance to the greenway in Bilberry!!!

kayaksurfbum

These are the people you need to tell about it.

http://www.waterfordcouncil.ie/council/councillors/metropolitan/tramore-watcity-west/index.htm

Two of them living nearby.

Im sure someone here is good with words and could draft a letter that everyone could copy and paste and send to the good Councillors, who im sure are totally oblivious to the situation! They need informing.

Just an idea.

erica74

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

There is no place really to home them that isn't affecting someone, be it a pub, a housing estate or a school.

They could always buy their own land and fûck off.

Can anyone explain the concrete slab "walls" erected behind those new houses, which now house that huge mobile home? The slabs look brand new and are expensive, were they legally/illegally erected by the travellers? Or erected by the council?

Road-Hog

It’s like a war zone alright up there. Anytime I drop off to the school or activities on a weekEnd I have to ‘dodge the bullets’ almost. Constant harassment , threats and intimidation and that’s only from the 5/6 year olds.

LuasSimon

Tasfasdf wrote: »

Your right most of their money is from crime.

Husband and wife both not working plus 8 kids brings in 50k per annum in benefits .
Add in a compensation claim annually your laughing .

BBM77

Deiseen wrote: »

If I lived up there I would refuse to pay my LPT until the situation is resolved.

Surely the residents have set up a group? Lobbied local/national politicians.

I feel really sorry for them as these guys are absolutely untouchable. Looks so bad for Waterford with where they are currently set up.

I am hearing the same thing from people living in Kilkenny, of a halting site in town like a refugee camp, making the area look bad etc. It is not a Waterford problem it is a national problem.

I do think a harder stance needs to be taken with travellers. The local/national government need to stand up to them.

Always thought the Carrickpherrish Road was a ridiculous place to put a halting site. I mean building a new road to open up development land then putting a home for <snip> people in the middle of it.

Azatadine

Deiseen wrote: »

If I lived up there I would refuse to pay my LPT until the situation is resolved.

Surely the residents have set up a group? Lobbied local/national politicians.

I feel really sorry for them as these guys are absolutely untouchable. Looks so bad for Waterford with where they are currently set up.

Yeah, it looks terrible for anybody entering via that side of the city.

Deiseen

If I lived up there I would refuse to pay my LPT until the situation is resolved.

Surely the residents have set up a group? Lobbied local/national politicians.

I feel really sorry for them as these guys are absolutely untouchable. Looks so bad for Waterford with where they are currently set up.

Azatadine

The blatant disregard with how they treat the thing site and environs tells it's own story. Dirty hellhole.

jimbojazz

Careful now, or we'll have John Connors on here moaning about how they are interpreted by the general public, and how they are misunderstood, prejudiced and how they are law abiding citizens, blahdidblah.

Wanderer78

SteelyDanJalapeno wrote:

Should have voted Peter Casey

He's a fcuking scumbag

Stopitwillya wrote:

The first thing is that their dole should be stopped. Not just them but anyone long term unemployed. Let them starve.

Yea that would solve it, ffs!

wagtail99

Azatadine wrote: »

snip

I suppose they can always move it out onto the sidewalk like the rest of the caravans that take up the sidewalk. Eventually they will just set them up on the road itself. They had burned out cars there a couple of weeks ago but I assume the council just takes them away?

The word is footpaths in Ireland, although tgey are also sometimes referred to as pavements on this side of the Atlantic.

Azatadine

Apparently, there was something on the radio during the week about that monstrosity of a mobile home that they put in there at the back of someone's house. There is a court order pending on that. I wont hold my breath.

I suppose they can always move it out onto the sidewalk like the rest of the caravans that take up the sidewalk. Eventually they will just set them up on the road itself. They had burned out cars there a couple of weeks ago but I assume the council just takes them away?

Stopitwillya

StringerBell wrote: »

I'm not exactly right wing on many subjects, but from a life of dealing with them, many of them, on a regular basis I see no benefit to them at all. They contribute nothing to society and would be first on the forced sterilization list if it was up to me!

The first thing is that their dole should be stopped. Not just them but anyone long term unemployed. Let them starve.

And no way should taxpayers be paying for their accommodation.

And our judges should be held to account for leniency (dismissal) against them or any of our other career criminals.

StringerBell

Yeah I couldn't believe it over the last few months, my little lad is in Educate Together which is a brilliant school. Passing there regularly and seeing them sprawl all over the place up there is surreal. One had gone in opposite where the main site is but did get moved on after a few weeks.

The ones who went in and just put up a "chalet" in behind the walls at the back of that new housing estate take the biscuit. Imagine having bought a house there and turning up to find that hanging over your back wall?

I'm not exactly right wing on many subjects, but from a life of dealing with them, many of them, on a regular basis I see no benefit to them at all. They contribute nothing to society and would be first on the forced sterilization list if it was up to me!

Obviously that isn't the answer realistically either but its very hard to know how to bridge the gap and encourage them to become decent members of society. They procreate at an alarming rate and I can guarantee you that if they were to ever be in the majority in a country instead of an "ethnic minority" you could forget about them respecting your culture.

Stopitwillya

I feel sorry for the poor people who paid over €200k for a house in Mount Suir up on that road. Let down by the builder and ends up as a ghost estate and then to have that crowd placed on your doorstep.

Quigs Snr

Lot of hate crime on here goys.

You should y'know engage in some meaningful dialogue to resolve the matter to all parties satisfaction....

.... says no one ever except right on lefties from affluent suburbs nowhere near a halting side, or some Pavee Point representative who should really be considered for the position of Donald Trumps Whitehouse press secretary.

Suck it up lads and lassies, or just give up and move out like I did.

jimbojazz

Shur ets dur culchur

Azatadine

They drive in and out of that hellhole without any due care and attention to anything else on the road as well. No indicators. Nothing. They own the road.....

aaaaaaaahhhhhh

Azatadine wrote: »

Whoever thought that putting that crowd close to the likes of Genzyme, the Gaeilscoil, now close to West Pharma as well, was a good idea must be off their rocker.

Its the Horses they own up there that I feel for TBH, and i'm no environmentalist.

Stupid kids(travelers or maybe not) kicking footballs at them, throwing stones at them etc etc etc. And the SPCA will do FA about that to.

FFred

I frequent the library there sometimes and the youngsters cause a fair bit of hassle for the librarians.

Wanderer2010

Sonny noggs wrote: »

The Gardai have seen how the courts deal with them, suspended sentences for lads with 50 plus convictions, so why bother?

Travellers set up home next to Judge Head in The Clouds...then we would see change.