2019 All Ireland Senior Football Championship *Mod note: Post #1*

joe40 wrote: »

I'm far from a GAA expert but just a wee question about Dublin dominance of the inter county scene at the minute. Would it be fair to say that this complete dominance isn't reflected in the club scene for Dublin, which after all is the breeding ground for intercounty players. Corofin (Galway) and Gweedore (Donegal) competed for the club championship. Is this strange?

That is an excellent point actually that is rarely spoken about.
I would be neutral when I go to Dublin Senior Club championship games where the standard is great among the top eight.

Ballymun (perennial favourites) have underachieved because they are mostly knackered through the amount of players they have playing for Dublin McCarthy, Rock, Small, Mcmahon etc. Plus there are also questions asked about the sideline calls.
They have repeatedly lost to a match smart/aging Vincents side Ger Brennan, Mossy Quinn et al.

Crokes were caught this year against that Longford crowd (can't spell it) who had 5 intercounty players who beat Meath previously.
But this was a Crokes side who had Mannion who scored seven from play against Kildare last weekend.

It is not the first time a club in Leinster has shocked a Dublin team. Rathnew from Wicklow beat Vincents and kept Diarmuid Connolly to 2 points.

In an AI final Brigids from Roscommon beat Ballymun who were 6 ahead at one stage.

There seems to be way more of spread of talent in Club football than intercounty.
I think that will be the future of the game in the long run.
Corofin are a funny team as a few of them do not make the Galway starting team, and Daithi Burke only plays for the hurlers!

Bonniedog wrote: »

Hill 16 was near full yesterday. 36,000 there yesterday, 80% Dubs. Historically high for a Leinster semi final.

You might want to check the history books!

Bonniedog wrote: »

So its the first Dublin GAA President for 80 year's fault now!

Again you might want to check the history books.

GAA Football All Ireland Senior Championship Round Two Qualifiers

Saturday June 22

Antrim v Kildare, Corrigan Park, 3pm - *Subject to inspection and safety certification

Longford v Tyrone, Glennon Brothers Pearse Park, 5pm

Derry v Laois, Owenbeg, 5pm

Westmeath v Limerick, TEG Cusack Park, Mullingar, 6pm

Leitrim v Clare, Avantcard Páirc Seán Mac Diarmada, 6pm

Monaghan v Armagh, St Tiernach's Park, 7pm

Down v Mayo, Páirc Esler, 7pm

Sunday June 23

Offaly v Sligo, Bord Na Mona O'Connor Park, 2pm

ET if necessary and Winner on the Day in all Round Two Qualifiers fixtures

Hulk Hands wrote: »

It's laughable if this R2 qualifier on Sky is Down v Mayo which the match times indicate over Monaghan v Armagh. Put the Mayo game on at 7pm the far side of the country so loads of them can't go, make them watch on TV to boost the figs while the rest of the country gets deprived of the very competitive tie between 2 good teams. Hard make sense of it

Now thery're saying the Munster final is on at 7, which would leave the Sky game as Tyrone v Longford at 5. At this rate they're screwing Mayo fans for putting on a game 4 hrs drive away at 7pm at night, the general public because they'll miss a very good tie and Sky cos they've to show Tyrone as a 1/14 favourite that nobody will want to watch

Farawayhome wrote: »

I think Monaghan v Armagh would be the choice most people would want to see.

Yeah that's the very good tie I was referring to

Farawayhome wrote: »

I think Monaghan v Armagh would be the choice most people would want to see.

Absolutely, its the stand out tie of the round, the scheduling doesnt make any sense on a number of levels

Farawayhome wrote: »

Dublin clubs do much better than they used to.

Dublin's record at club level is strong
2009
2014
2016
Dublin winners

Ballymun, vinnies, ballyboden and crokes have won a few leinster's

On who can beat Dublin, its hard to know.
Dublin are extremely strong in every line. They have so many top players across the pitch and bench no team can match them.

Mayo went to toe to toe with Dublin in 3 finals but Dublin's bench made the difference, Costello in 16, Connolly in 17. On review, mayo are the only team that can match the dubs. They have brilliant backs who make life tough for mayo forwards and their forward play has also been excellent against Dublin.

Currently, Monaghan, Tyrone, roscommon, galway lack either good defenders or a range of forwards that can trouble Dublin. In the last two seasons, Dublin have coasted past these teams. To suggest they could stop the drive for 5 would be wide of the mark.

Donegal look good, rochford has them well drilled. But being honest, Dublin beat donegal in 2nd gear last year. It's still questionable if donegal have a strong bench and Tyrone cut them open 3 times on Saturday. I'd still expect Dublin to be to strong if they meet

We all know how good Kerry are if they click up front. But currently, they have a very poor midfield and light defence. There last trips to Croke park has seen the kingdom utterly rudderless. It's very hard to see Kerry take down Dublin this year at least.

That leaves mayo. As I said they possess all the tools to hurt Dublin minus a bench. But right now they have 3 tough rounds to get to a super 8 and then 3 tough games to get to a semi. Injuries and age is catching up with them. I think Dublin would have to much.

All in all, i think we only have 2 /3 challengers to Dublin and it's very doubtful if a genuine 75 minute challenge can be given by donegal Kerry or mayo.

tayto lover wrote: »

Hard to see past the Dubs but I have a feeling Mayo are not out of the equation just yet. Not much mention of them anywhere but they could get a nice run through the qualifiers and might surprise many.

Down will be a challenge. Might have a few quid on the Mourne men.

C__MC wrote: »

On who can beat Dublin, its hard to know.
Dublin are extremely strong in every line. They have so many top players across the pitch and bench no team can match them.

Mayo went to toe to toe with Dublin in 3 finals but Dublin's bench made the difference, Costello in 16, Connolly in 17. On review, mayo are the only team that can match the dubs. They have brilliant backs who make life tough for mayo forwards and their forward play has also been excellent against Dublin.

Currently, Monaghan, Tyrone, roscommon, galway lack either good defenders or a range of forwards that can trouble Dublin. In the last two seasons, Dublin have coasted past these teams. To suggest they could stop the drive for 5 would be wide of the mark.

Donegal look good, rochford has them well drilled. But being honest, Dublin beat donegal in 2nd gear last year. It's still questionable if donegal have a strong bench and Tyrone cut them open 3 times on Saturday. I'd still expect Dublin to be to strong if they meet

We all know how good Kerry are if they click up front. But currently, they have a very poor midfield and light defence. There last trips to Croke park has seen the kingdom utterly rudderless. It's very hard to see Kerry take down Dublin this year at least.

That leaves mayo. As I said they possess all the tools to hurt Dublin minus a bench. But right now they have 3 tough rounds to get to a super 8 and then 3 tough games to get to a semi. Injuries and age is catching up with them. I think Dublin would have to much.

All in all, i think we only have 2 /3 challengers to Dublin and it's very doubtful if a genuine 75 minute challenge can be given by donegal Kerry or mayo.

Dublin are just too mobile for every team in the country. Kildare aren't a bad side but the difference in pace and athleticism was striking on Sunday. When you throw in the fact they have plenty of football in them too......Can't see any side living with them and to be brutally honest i think Kerry, Donegal, Tyrone etc will do well to make a game of it.

Mayo were able to get close but too many of their players are late twenties, early thirties. It would be an uncharacteristically one sided affair if they were to meet this season imo.

Any news yet on Tiernan McCann's hearing today?

corny wrote: »

Dublin are just too mobile for every team in the country. Kildare aren't a bad side but the difference in pace and athleticism was striking on Sunday. When you throw in the fact they have plenty of football in them too......Can't see any side living with them and to be brutally honest i think Kerry, Donegal, Tyrone etc will do well to make a game of it.

Mayo were able to get close but too many of their players are late twenties, early thirties. It would be an uncharacteristically one sided affair if they were to meet this season imo.

Agree 100% I wouldn’t give mayo a hope at this stage, they can’t turn back the clock with guys like Higgins, Boyle and Moran who were so prominent in past seasons. Aidan O’Shea bossed the two games v Kerry in the league but Dublin would run the legs off him by half time in a big championship game. I’d love to be proven wrong but I just don’t see it with Mayo, they don’t have the talent up front or the depth.

Donegal, Kerry, Tyrone and Galway all a good bit away too imo unless absolutely everything goes right for them on the day.

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

Agree 100% I wouldn’t give mayo a hope at this stage, they can’t turn back the clock with guys like Higgins, Boyle and Moran who were so prominent in past seasons. Aidan O’Shea bossed the two games v Kerry in the league but Dublin would run the legs off him by half time in a big championship game. I’d love to be proven wrong but I just don’t see it with Mayo, they don’t have the talent up front or the depth.

Donegal, Kerry, Tyrone and Galway all a good bit away too imo unless absolutely everything goes right for them on the day.

100% agree. I think that Galway can put it up to them next year if they get rid of Walsh and get a really good manager in. They have the 2nd best squad in the country and loads of options off the bench. The negative style at the moment makes them look like sh1t.

tayto lover wrote: »

Saw Down a few times of late Francie. I think Mayo will have it relatively easy.

Mayo are no great shakes lately either.