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Are you taking part in any LGBTQ events for pride month?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    All marching bands should be stopped!:D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    jmayo wrote: »
    Knowing the guards this is way more than a €5.

    I think I would be more interested in the actual figures and not what you think you know :) Especially - as I said - since we should be asking if any benefits accrue from said expenditure before merely bemoaning the expenditure by reflex. I listed some possible ones.
    jmayo wrote: »
    I want more foot patrols, more car patrols that actually help people on the ground.

    As do we all - but we need those things for many reasons. And there are other ways to deal with those reasons too rather than just more patrols. I would be more for a hollistic approach to policing rather than merely throw more patrols at every problem.

    Quite often community involvement greatly assists in police work. Making the police seem more part of any given community will foster that - which is worth quite a lot of financial investment. Let alone tiny investments for a temporary stickering of a car.
    jmayo wrote: »
    It is all just optics. Call me old school, I like substance over image.

    And until they can be shown to be in any way mutually exclusive - I prefer to go for both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    Why do LGBTQ people revolve their whole lives around their sexuality ?
    Obsessed with it! We are all equal now, just get on with it like the rest of us do!

    I have seen guys with their genitals barely covered in these parades, and people think it's progressive to bring kids to them!!

    It's too much.

    Happened to get caught up in one of these gay parades in Dublin about 3 years ago and some of the attires on the lads who were visible on the floats were absolutely vile altogether. If that is what the 'gay movement' is all about then I can easily understand why some people want nothing to do with it. Attention seeking scutter is all it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    cgcsb wrote: »
    Well first of all, gay people across the world don't actually have identical opinions.

    Of course not, I wasn't suggesting that they did.
    cgcsb wrote: »
    Not wanting people to be attacked or discriminated against because they are muslims is a very different prospect than supporting extremist Islam
    I'm not suggesting that they support extremists either. My confusion is that (on this case) Christianity and Islam are almost identical.

    *Both religions state homosexuality to be wrong/sinful.

    *Small minority of both groups write off that belief as outdated and identify as gay Muslims/Christians. Or if not gay themselves, they still believe that there is no conflict between homosexuality and faith.

    *Majority of both still see it as sinful but are happy for LGBT rights, no discrimination etc.

    *Small minority of both groups are full blown "death to gays" attitude. Like that American preacher who was banned recently.

    The confusion for me is that while Islam certainly has a much bigger global percentage who sit in the 3rd group (illegal in many middle Eastern countries), we often see LGBT groups supporting Islam and praising it. Yes there are some Christian countries in Africa where homosexuality is banned too but I do believe more Islamic countries openly prosecute gays than Christian ones.

    Is it just a backlash against right wing groups who would condemn both Islam and homosexuality? The enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of thing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    seamus wrote: »
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    That's good. You're funny.

    I mean it's not like virtually every advertisement contains some level of sexual innuendo aimed at straight people, or entire TV programmes are dedicated to pandering to heterosexuality.

    Oh wait, it is. If Love Island consisted entirely of buff gay men flirting and riding, there'd be no end of people condemning the "gay agenda".

    The "straight agenda" is completely and utterly all pervasive. It is everywhere, all the time. That's not a bad thing, it's to be expected completely. But to claim that straight people don't shove their sexuality down everyone else's throat shows a massive lack of awareness. It is so normal for straight sexuality to be shoved right in your face and your children's faces, that you don't even see it anymore.

    Seamus, for your post to be true, "straight innuendo advertisement" would have to be targeted at LGBT community, it's no. It doesn't exist/

    Just because the couple in the ad happen to be heterosexual, it doesn't mean it's being shoved in the faces of homosexuals. It's innuendo, not gay/straight innuendo (whatever the fcuk that is supposed to be).

    There's no "straight agenda", there's homophobic arseholes out there alright, but that does not represent the entire straight population. Just a pimple on your arse. There is still an agenda for the gay community, unfortunately so the parade still has meaning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Of course not, I wasn't suggesting that they did.


    I'm not suggesting that they support extremists either. My confusion is that (on this case) Christianity and Islam are almost identical.

    Both religions state homosexuality to be wrong/sinful.

    Small minority of both groups write off that belief as outdated and identify as gay Muslims/Christians

    Majority of both still see it as sinful but are happy for LGBT rights, no discrimination etc.

    Small minority of both groups are full blown "death to gays" attitude. Like that American preacher who was banned recently.

    The confusion for me is that while Islam certainly has a much bigger global percentage who sit in the 3rd group (illegal in many middle Eastern countries), we often see LGBT groups supporting Islam and praising it. Yes there are some Christian countries in Africa where homosexuality is banned too but I do believe more Islamic countries openly prosecute gays than Christian ones.

    Is it just a backlash against right wing groups who would condemn both Islam and homosexuality? The enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of thing?

    Mod

    This isnt the thread for this discussion re: religion and LGBTQ. Bring it up again and its bans/cards.

    Respond to the above and its bans/cards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Waffle

    Mod

    Anyone conflating pride and child abuse is going to be sanctioned straight off the bat.

    Dont post in this thread again. Thanks.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jmayo wrote: »
    I would much rather if the guards actually spent money on patrolling our streets rather than tarting up some cars so that their press office can just shout look at us and how progressive we are.

    Hell some of those patrols might actually help some gay person who is being subjected to abuse because of their sexuality.
    The Gardai can chew gum and walk straight. It's such nonsense to imply that policing will suffer because the Gardai have put some stickers on a couple of squad cars.

    It is in fact such nonsense, that you'd honestly have to question the motivation for your being upset by it.

    A police force only polices its community with the consent of that community. It is important for Gardai, and for the public at large, for the public to be assured that Gardai are part of the community, just like gay people are. It is important, also, that we all share common, communal objectives and that everybody feels as if they matter. Which of course, they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭victor8600


    ...As a group homosexuals are not oppressed in this country. Look at the marriage equality result, look at the Taoiseach, The minister for Children - Ireland is just not a homophobic place as a whole.

    True, but some people are in the closet with respect to their sexual orientation. It is is fine if they want to hide it, but the fact is that suppressing your feelings is generally not healthy, for the individual and for the society.

    So for people who are afraid to come out, an event like a Pride parade is important and it illustrates in a very graphic fashion that they are not alone and that other people came out and are no worse for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Happened to get caught up in one of these gay parades in Dublin about 3 years ago and some of the attires on the lads who were visible on the floats were absolutely vile altogether. If that is what the 'gay movement' is all about then I can easily understand why some people want nothing to do with it. Attention seeking scutter is all it is.

    Mod

    Dont post in this thread again.

    Discussion of the above will get cards/bans.

    @everyone

    Ye need to pay attention to the OP and be civil in responding to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Seamus, for your post to be true, "straight innuendo advertisement" would have to be targeted at LGBT community, it's no. It doesn't exist/

    Just because the couple in the ad happen to be heterosexual, it doesn't mean it's being shoved in the faces of homosexuals. It's innuendo, not gay/straight innuendo (whatever the fcuk that is supposed to be).

    There's no "straight agenda", there's homophobic arseholes out there alright, but that does not represent the entire straight population. Just a pimple on your arse. There is still an agenda for the gay community, unfortunately so the parade still has meaning.
    I don't think you even know what you're attempting to say here. This is gibberish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    This thread, and every other that covers an LGBT issue, shows why Pride is still needed.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    eviltwin wrote: »
    This thread, and every other that covers an LGBT issue, shows why Pride is still needed.

    I disagree. I think that the intolerance comes from both sides. Apparently stating that scantily clad people declaring their sexuality isn't exactly child friendly is unacceptable hate speech.

    I think that when any objection to any aspect of "pride" leaves you open to being levelled a bigot is overkill.

    Most people on here have absolutely no issue with homosexuality. A lot of posters are unwilling to accept any criticism of their mindset (on both sides).

    I think a parade celebrating any sexuality isn't a place I'd bring my child. I'd rather homosexuality was shown as just a thing that some people are rather than a mardi gras type parade but if some people want to do that, that's fine.


    I've already been told that as a straight man, my opinion is invalid, but I dread to think that if I told a gay person that their opinion on any issue involving straight people was invalid as they don't know what it's like to be straight, what the reaction would be.

    You may as well say that this thread, and every other that covers an LGBT issue shows why Pride is not needed.

    I treat my homosexual friends as equals, not as wonderful, brave people. Their choice of sexual partner does not define them in my eyes.


    How hateful is that?


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I disagree. I think that the intolerance comes from both sides. Apparently stating that scantily clad people declaring their sexuality isn't exactly child friendly is unacceptable hate speech.

    I think that when any objection to any aspect of "pride" leaves you open to being levelled a bigot is overkill.
    To spare everyone a multi-quote battle, I'll only quote this part of your post, which is probably a fair summation of your views?

    I don't know about you, but when I think of LGBT+ Pride, I think of families like my own -- straight families attending a parade, enjoying the music of the Army Band, and a general feeling of goodwill and fun throughout the city centre -- it's not for nothing that it's been nicknamed Gay Christmas. I tend to forget that there is a tiny, rainbow-clad minority of men in mankinis doing caprioles across Smithfield Square. Most people, gay or straight, are there for the carnival atmosphere, and the fun of it all, and are pretty carefree about some moderate debauchery.

    I'd like to know what the great kerfuffle is.

    You can't turn on a television without seeing the heterosexual equivalent of this.

    I think, as Seamus has pointed out earlier in this thread, we sometimes ignore how prevalent heterosexual sexuality is in ordinary life. And it's probably not a big deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Mr.Frame


    no. and why does it have to be a month fgs?

    Because the heteros have the other 11 months


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Mr.Frame wrote: »
    Because the heteros have the other 11 months
    No, the rest of the year is mixed.
    There is no hetero pride months parade or anything like that.

    I think a pride week or month is good, but that above is not correct.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]



    I'd like to know what the great kerfuffle is.

    You can't turn on a television without seeing the heterosexual equivalent of this.

    I think, as Seamus has pointed out earlier in this thread, we sometimes ignore how prevalent heterosexual sexuality is in ordinary life. And it's probably not a big deal.

    I disagree. I can and do turn on the television with my child and can avoid seeing the heterosexual equivalent (whatever that is). I don't like my daughter being exposed to any sexual politics.

    We don't ignore that heterosexuality is prevalent in society. We accept it is. Most people are heterosexual. That's not a bad thing. Being homosexual is rarer than being heterosexual. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing either, it's just not as prevalent. From the sounds of it, some people want exact equal representation of sexuality. That's ridiculous.

    As I've stated, sexual politics (or any politics) for that matter isn't something I am willing to expose my daughter to. She is aware of homosexuality and doesn't bat an eyelid when my friend calls over with his boyfriend. I would like it to be normal for her. But if they called over in leather chaps and insisted about how proud they are of their sexuality, I wouldn't let them around my daughter. In much the same way if my mate called over with his girlfriend in bondage gear and said that they were so proud of being with each other, I'd not them around either.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We don't ignore that heterosexuality is prevalent in society. We accept it is. Most people are heterosexual. That's not a bad thing. Being homosexual is rarer than being heterosexual. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing either, it's just not as prevalent. From the sounds of it, some people want exact equal representation of sexuality. That's ridiculous.
    Literally nobody here has said that.

    Frankly, it sounds as though you might be attempting to manufacture an argument which doesn't exist.

    Let's assume that we don't want our children exposed to any sexual behaviour until they are 18. I see no reason to get all-caught-up-in-a-heap when this applies only to homosexuality. If it is such a serious issue regardless of sexual preference, we as a society must almost be at crisis-point?

    Let's now take explicit sexual references out of this, and label all sexual preferences as A, B and C. If B is the predominant manifestation of sexual behaviour and sexual proclivity on our media, shouldn't that be the overwhelming cause for concern, with other such manifestations being somewhat sidelined? I mean, that's what you'd expect if the concerns were completely free of prejudice?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Frankly, it sounds as though you might be attempting to manufacture an argument which doesn't exist.

    Not at all. Plenty of posters are saying that heterosexuality is being rammed down our throats on a daily basis. I'm saying it's not.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Let's now take explicit sexual references out of this, and label all sexual preferences as A, B and C. If B is the predominant manifestation of sexual behaviour and sexual proclivity on our media, shouldn't that be the overwhelming cause for concern, with other such manifestations being somewhat sidelined? I mean, that's what you'd expect if the concerns were completely free of prejudice?

    No. Because I have no problem with sexuality in the media. I control what my daughter sees.

    I have no problem with anyone's sexuality. I just thought that when people were saying that heterosexuality was so normalised we don't notice it, was ridiculous.

    My point was that any criticism of gay pride leaves you open to being branded a "phobe" and told your points aren't valid because you aren't gay. That's ****ty behaviour.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Not at all. Plenty of posters are saying that heterosexuality is being rammed down our throats on a daily basis. I'm saying it's not.

    If you are straight you probably don't notice it. If you're queer its very obvious. I don't know any family like mine, i don't see them represented on tv or in real life. Pride is a chance for me to meet other parents like me and for my kids to meet other children who have parents like them. We look like any other family, no club gear or slogans, just normal clobber. It's a one day thing that can be easily avoided if it's not you're thing but it's a very important event for a lot of us for a variety of reasons.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No. Because I have no problem with sexuality in the media. I control what my daughter sees.

    I have no problem with anyone's sexuality. I just thought that when people were saying that heterosexuality was so normalised we don't notice it, was ridiculous.

    My point was that any criticism of gay pride leaves you open to being branded a "phobe" and told your points aren't valid because you aren't gay. That's ****ty behaviour.
    If you're having no trouble in (somehow, miraculously) shielding your child from heterosexual sexuality, then why can't you simply do the same when it comes to other sexualities? What's the issue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Is there any straight pride events over the next few weeks?


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is there any straight pride events over the next few weeks?
    TK Maxx checkout aisle, every day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    TK Maxx checkout aisle, every day

    Serious answers only purrrr-leaaaaase


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Serious answers only purrrr-leaaaaase
    I didn't think your question was serious.

    But being serious, if you want to start a festival to celebrate human sexuality, I think that would be very welcome. Let us know when and where!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I didn't think your question was serious.

    But being serious, if you want to start a festival to celebrate human sexuality, I think that would be very welcome. Let us know when and where!

    Read my question again please and thanks. Slowly if necessary !!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you're having no trouble in (somehow, miraculously) shielding your child from heterosexual sexuality, then why can't you simply do the same when it comes to other sexualities? What's the issue?

    I was saying that the pride parade itself does have overt sexuality.

    My child knows there are gay couples. Doesn't phase her. She knows that usually people are heterosexuals. Doesn't bother her. Her seeing a couple kiss on TV makes her squirm (regardless of the genders) because she is a child. I've taught her that being gay or straight is nothing to be proud of. It's who you are.

    Gay pride by it's very name would suggest to a child that you should be proud of being gay. I don't think you should.

    "We're here, we're queer, get used to it".

    We did. Doesn't seem enough though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    I might go to the dog show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I was saying that the pride parade itself does have overt sexuality.

    My child knows there are gay couples. Doesn't phase her. She knows that usually people are heterosexuals. Doesn't bother her. Her seeing a couple kiss on TV makes her squirm (regardless of the genders) because she is a child. I've taught her that being gay or straight is nothing to be proud of. It's who you are.

    Gay pride by it's very name would suggest to a child that you should be proud of being gay. I don't think you should.

    "We're here, we're queer, get used to it".

    We did. Doesn't seem enough though.

    Not everyone is as open minded as you. Some people at pride will have faced discrimination, may have lost family or friends or have had a long road to self acceptance. Most of them will have experienced being told their sexuality was wrong. For them its a huge thing to be able to be open, its empowering to say they are proud of who they are. Maybe one day we will get to a stage where being gay is as underwhelming as being left handed but we're not there yet. So let's let the queer community have this day without constantly having to justify its existence


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  • Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Hedgelayer


    I'm not into the gay scene myself, so no interest in it.

    I hope it goes well for them, I'm a gay myself but for some reason I just don't go along with being proud of being myself and I think it undermines sexuality.

    Prancing around in bondage gears for the bedroom or adult club's as far as I'm concerned, I'm old fashioned lol

    I'm probably a moderate gay man, who's a lone wolf who hangs out with similar guy's and more into intrepid fishing, surfing and Camping trips.

    I feel lonely at gay club's and bar's there's a sense of a sexual energy going on, if they're happy with it more power to them.
    But not for me, I'd like to head off into the wilderness and enjoy nature...not a flamboyant festival..

    I hope it's enjoyable when it goes ahead...

    G'luck


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    eviltwin wrote:
    Not everyone is as open minded as you. Some people at pride will have faced discrimination, may have lost family or friends or have had a long road to self acceptance. Most of them will have experienced being told their sexuality was wrong. For them its a huge thing to be able to be open, its empowering to say they are proud of who they are. Maybe one day we will get to a stage where being gay is as underwhelming as being left handed but we're not there yet. So let's let the queer community have this day without constantly having to justify its existence

    I never said they couldn't. I have no problem with the pride parade. I just dislike immensely when people are branded bigots for saying that they feel it's inappropriate for children and/or having any issue with pride month.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    I never said they couldn't. I have no problem with the pride parade. I just dislike immensely when people are branded bigots for saying that they feel it's inappropriate for children and/or having any issue with pride month.

    Agree
    The Pride drink and drugs fest with so much sexual themes is not a kids environment


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was saying that the pride parade itself does have overt sexuality.
    And I was replying that overt sexuality is everywhere, the vast majority of it is heterosexual. The latter is ubiquitous. It pervades most aspects of our lives.

    You have obviously done a fairly miraculous job in shielding your child, or children, from heterosexual sexual content. Why do aspects of the LGBT movement seem so problematic, in comparison?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    bigpink wrote: »
    Agree
    The Pride drink and drugs fest with so much sexual themes is not a kids environment

    It certainly is not suitable for kids

    Leaving aside the sexual themes

    Saw a short section of it by chance last year.

    Loads of ppl absolutely out of their minds on drink and a cocktail of drugs - most of em old enough to know better -30s upwards wrote off


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    Loads of ppl absolutely out of their minds on drink and a cocktail of drugs - most of em old enough to know better -30s upwards wrote off

    For balance sake, that's the same with St Patrick's Day festival. The difference is the inclusion of sexual pride


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    It certainly is not suitable for kids

    Leaving aside the sexual themes

    Saw a short section of it by chance last year.

    Loads of ppl absolutely out of their minds on drink and a cocktail of drugs - most of em old enough to know better -30s upwards wrote off

    By that logic the Patricks Day Parade isn't suitable for kids either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    It certainly is not suitable for kids

    Mod

    Thread banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Omackeral wrote: »
    By that logic the Patricks Day Parade isn't suitable for kids either.

    While that’s a whole other topic I will bite.

    The behaviour at the parade I saw was way worse than my experiences with st Patricks day over the years in terms of both alcohol intoxication and drug abuse.

    But yes. Agreed, I know st Patricks parade is very bad also.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Mr.Frame


    Is there any straight pride events over the next few weeks?

    You dont need one


  • Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Hedgelayer


    Mr.Frame wrote: »
    You dont need one

    Why not, he could be asexual and free from any attachments...

    Lucky guy if he is :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Feisar


    While that’s a whole other topic I will bite.

    The behaviour at the parade I saw was way worse than my experiences with st Patricks day over the years in terms of both alcohol intoxication and drug abuse.

    But yes. Agreed, I know st Patricks parade is very bad also.

    I had the misfortune of having to cross Dublin one Paddy's afternoon, it was horrific.

    I had a about 3/4 Pride parade people roaring nonsense at me clearly off their faces in Temple Bar one year.

    Point being some people are arseholes, my negative experiences are a small sample and not noteworthy. By and large people are good however festival type events seem to attract dregs.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Read my question again please and thanks. Slowly if necessary !!
    I thought the implication of my answer was equally obvious.

    If you want one, start one.

    Popularity will supply demand, if any.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭SirGerryAdams


    barely covered? so they were covered. Dont bring your kids to the beach either, there might be blokes there wearing budgie smugglers.

    It's a bit different going to a beach when it's sunny to enjoy some sun where you wear a bikini or just wear trunks. There's nothing explicitly sexual about that.

    Completely different when there's lads going around wearing assless chaps in a march celebrating that you like the cock.

    I suppose you think babestation is fine for kids to watch then?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭SirGerryAdams


    eviltwin wrote: »
    This thread, and every other that covers an LGBT issue, shows why Pride is still needed.

    Ah yes because everyone that has commented something you don't like will be converted by the parade. Great!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Mr.Frame


    Ive been to many a Pride parade and I can safely say that 99.9% of those participating in it are having fun and are FULLY clothed.

    It always a source of amusement (im being sarcastic) when people say "pride is nothing but scantily clad men" or "its not for children",

    First off, you may see one or two guys with no shirts on and wearing shorts (weather permitting of course), but if you look around Dublin city on any hot day , you will see plenty of guys doing the same, shirtless and wearing shorts.

    But somehow because its a few gay guys that do it in a parade, it is deemed to be a "parade that is sexualised", which is utter rubbish,

    As for not bringing children to it, again, I would say that is down to someones own bigotry and belief that the gays are all a bunch of perverts and shouldnt be "near children". Yup, again its utter rubbish.

    Pride parade is a fun filled day. To a gay person it is usually the only day they can feel completely safe to walk down O Connell street holding their partners hand, without fear of abuse,be it verbal or physical.

    Ocassionally I may hold my partners hand in town (apart from Pride) but i am very conscious of my surroundings. Plus you will ALWAYS get "looks" off people.

    So to those who complain about Pride parade, I would suggest you go along and see how joyous a thing it is and be safe in the knowledge that if you do go , you wont become a homo.

    It doesnt work like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Mr.Frame


    It's a bit different going to a beach when it's sunny to enjoy some sun where you wear a bikini or just wear trunks. There's nothing explicitly sexual about that.

    Completely different when there's lads going around wearing assless chaps in a march celebrating that you like the cock.

    I suppose you think babestation is fine for kids to watch then?

    Ive been to many a pride parade and have never seen guys in assless chaps. I have though, every weekend in town , seen girls with low cut tops showing off their breasts and wearing mini skirts showing off their underware .

    But,thats ok I presume since its "girls" and they are heterosexuals and sure the "lads like that kind of thing"

    double standards anyone ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭SirGerryAdams


    Mr.Frame wrote: »

    Pride parade is a fun filled day. To a gay person it is usually the only day they can feel completely safe to walk down O Connell street holding their partners hand, without fear of abuse,be it verbal or physical.

    If gay people don't feel safe now because of their sexuality then they'll never feel safe.

    How many assaults and attacks have been homophobic attacks in Dublin compared to just random attacks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Mr.Frame


    If gay people don't feel safe now because of their sexuality then they'll never feel safe.

    How many assaults and attacks have been homophobic attacks in Dublin compared to just random attacks?

    Just because we have marriage equality,it doesnt mean that homophobia isnt alive and well.

    Its an ongoing battle.

    There are numerous homophobic attacks,on an all too often basis, many of which go unreported. Some ARE physical, but many many are verbal abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Mr.Frame


    Just read this article in the Indo about a gay worker who was subjected to homophobic abuse from a Director.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/gay-bar-manager-awarded-20000-after-being-called-queer-by-boss-at-work-38209437.html


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