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TII Motorway Service Areas (MSA) Progress Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,014 ✭✭✭✭ freshpopcorn


    The Cashel Mcdonald's has a drive Thru!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭ jd


    Passengers could eat i guess?

    As its offline, you also have locals who might fancy a smacs
    It's actually online. That doesn't sop locals. Anyway I prefer to have a drive-through. Drive up, get food, eat in car, rubbish in bin, go.. (with coffee in drinks holder)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,661 ✭✭✭✭ OldMrBrennan83


    Even if I wasn't eating and driving I'd always rather eat in the car parked up rather than go in so drive throughs are ideal. That said, I'm probably in the minority on that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭ Chris_5339762


    None of the "official" TII service stations have drive-throughs as far as I'm aware. Presumably they want to stop people eating their burger and chips while driving with one hand down the motorway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭ BoatMad


    To me the new Gorey one is much nicer then coynes , and I use both quite a bit, ionity chargers going in at present so 8 EV charging bays there too soon


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,661 ✭✭✭✭ OldMrBrennan83


    BoatMad wrote: »
    To me the new Gorey one is much nicer then coynes , and I use both quite a bit, ionity chargers going in at present so 8 EV charging bays there too soon

    Definitely would rather go into it, haven't been in Coynes since. Far handier for a later stop when going to Wexford too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭ blindsider


    None of the "official" TII service stations have drive-throughs as far as I'm aware. Presumably they want to stop people eating their burger and chips while driving with one hand down the motorway.

    M8 Cashel does....

    https://motorwayservices.ie/Cashel#Facilities


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,506 ✭✭✭ blackwhite


    blindsider wrote: »

    That’s neither online, nor a TII official services site - which was the question asked.

    Topaz (as they were at the time) managed to get a site, and planning permission, beside an exit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,661 ✭✭✭✭ OldMrBrennan83


    That one barely had a car park until about a year ago so you'd have needed to eat driving along anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭ jd


    blindsider wrote: »


    As others have stated, that is not an official TII service area. Personally, I think it was a disgrace to give it planning permission given the lack of space etc.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭ blindsider


    blackwhite wrote: »
    That’s neither online, nor a TII official services site - which was the question asked.

    Topaz (as they were at the time) managed to get a site, and planning permission, beside an exit.

    Fair enough - wasn't aware of that. I know it's a pain to get to, but I thought it was 'on-line' as we (Ireland) define it....

    Thanks for the info.


  • Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭ BelfastVanMan


    blindsider wrote: »
    blackwhite wrote: »
    That’s neither online, nor a TII official services site - which was the question asked.

    Topaz (as they were at the time) managed to get a site, and planning permission, beside an exit.

    Fair enough - wasn't aware of that. I know it's a pain to get to, but I thought it was 'on-line' as we (Ireland) define it....

    Thanks for the info.

    Open to correction, here, but I think the official TII services have blue motorway signs, while the non-official services have brown signs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,661 ✭✭✭✭ OldMrBrennan83


    Open to correction, here, but I think the official TII services have blue motorway signs, while the non-official services have brown signs.

    On the signs thing, does that mean M8 J14 is offline then? I never realised it wasn't official.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,506 ✭✭✭ blackwhite


    On the signs thing, does that mean M8 J14 is offline then? I never realised it wasn't official.

    Yes.

    Offline means you leave the motorway at the junction and can re-enter, or continue your journey on non-MW road.

    Online services are ones where you can only access from the MW, and can only leave by re-entering the MW.



    The official, online service areas are listed at https://www.tii.ie/roads-tolling/operations-and-maintenance/motorway-service-areas/


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭ jd


    On the signs thing, does that mean M8 J14 is offline then? I never realised it wasn't official.
    At Moorepark, Fermoy? That's not official. If it's "bolted on" to a normal junction you can generally take it is not official.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,661 ✭✭✭✭ OldMrBrennan83


    Makes sense, hadn't thought of the layout at all. Cheers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,635 ✭✭✭✭ JupiterKid


    Was in the spanking new Circke K Gorey service area on the M11. Very impressed. Very well laid out, open 24 hours, interior fitted out to a high standard, much superior to the Applegreen ones IMO.

    McDonalds nearly finished and due to open later this week. I would say this will take a good chunk of business away from the offline Applegreen servicrs at Coynes Cross.

    More like this one please!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,661 ✭✭✭✭ OldMrBrennan83


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Was in the spanking new Circke K Gorey service area on the M11. Very impressed. Very well laid out, open 24 hours, interior fitted out to a high standard, much superior to the Applegreen ones IMO.

    McDonalds nearly finished and due to open later this week. I would say this will take a good chunk of business away from the offline Applegreen servicrs at Coynes Cross.

    More like this one please!

    Definitely, there's not a better one in the country.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ ongarboy


    https://www.businessworld.ie/news/McDonald-s-brings-45-jobs-to-Gorey-572506.html

    You must have missed the McDonald's opening by minutes! Opened today according to this article.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,307 Mod ✭✭✭✭ spacetweek


    Where are we with Athlone and Kilcullen?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,452 ✭✭✭ secman


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Where are we with Athlone and Kilcullen?

    Fit out of Athlone is presently ongoing, target of August.
    Kilcullen is running a bit behind Athlone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,266 ✭✭✭✭ flazio


    TII should find out who Pat McDonagh is using for his plazas.
    They'd all be open by now if they used his contractors.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,452 ✭✭✭ secman


    flazio wrote: »
    TII should find out who Pat McDonagh is using for his plazas.
    They'd all be open by now if they used his contractors.

    What makes you think TII isn't the problem ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭ tigerboon


    flazio wrote: »
    TII should find out who Pat McDonagh is using for his plazas.
    They'd all be open by now if they used his contractors.

    Same contractor, Killeen Civil


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ ongarboy


    Will Circle K be operating the Kilcullen and Athone MSAs? If so, will they also partner with McDonalds at these new MSAs like Gorey, Carlow and Fermoy?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,506 ✭✭✭ blackwhite


    ongarboy wrote: »
    Will Circle K be operating the Kilcullen and Athone MSAs? If so, will they also partner with McDonalds at these new MSAs like Gorey, Carlow and Fermoy?

    Both were part of the same tender process as Gorey, so should be similar offerings in place.

    Carlow and Fermoy aren't MSAs


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,266 ✭✭✭✭ flazio


    tigerboon wrote: »


    Same contractor, Killeen Civil
    Well then, his cheques must clear faster or something.
    ongarboy wrote: »
    Will Circle K be operating the Kilcullen and Athone MSAs? If so, will they also partner with McDonalds at these new MSAs like Gorey, Carlow and Fermoy?
    With Athlone it's hard to see it being McDonald's as there's already a restaurant close by in the Kilmartin centre. I know Burger king is associated closely with Applegreen but I wouldn't say that rules them out of contention.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,506 ✭✭✭ blackwhite


    flazio wrote: »
    Well then, his cheques must clear faster or something.

    With Athlone it's hard to see it being McDonald's as there's already a restaurant close by in the Kilmartin centre. I know Burger king is associated closely with Applegreen but I wouldn't say that rules them out of contention.

    McDonalds are specified in the tender documentation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,273 ✭✭✭ serfboard


    ongarboy wrote: »
    Will Circle K be operating the Kilcullen and Athone MSAs? If so, will they also partner with McDonalds at these new MSAs like Gorey, Carlow and Fermoy?
    flazio wrote: »
    With Athlone it's hard to see it being McDonald's as there's already a restaurant close by in the Kilmartin centre. I know Burger king is associated closely with Applegreen but I wouldn't say that rules them out of contention.
    Is it not now almost a rule that if it's Applegreen it's Burger King, and if it's Circle K, it's McDonalds? I'd be interested in any examples that break this "rule".

    It also explains why Supermacs went ahead and built their own!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ ongarboy


    serfboard wrote: »
    Is it not now almost a rule that if it's Applegreen it's Burger King, and if it's Circle K, it's McDonalds? I'd be interested in any examples that break this "rule".

    It also explains why Supermacs went ahead and built their own!

    Maxol seem to be paired with Abrakebabra and Bagel Factory of late while Texaco pairs with Supermacs if I'm not mistaken?


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